GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #2

[necco]

can anyone hear/understand what RP is shouting during the vigil? I can't make it out.....

Something to the effect of "Until you carry a baby and they're murdered, you can't judge me."

 

[Gypsy Road]

can anyone hear/understand what RP is shouting during the vigil? I can't make it out.....

No, I rewatched it at least 5 times and couldn't make out what she said.

I do feel bad for her, but damn....how could she be so careless and reckless!!

 

[mrsward]

I keep trying to put myself in her position..

1st 3 rules in life to ur child.

Never talk to strangers
Never take things from strangers
Never get in a car with a stranger

My family would disown me with that version of events..
My husband would certainly divorce me

 

[mikeysmommom]

agreed! any LE will tell you that raises red flags.

I feel like I am seeing as many flags in this case as I did when I was 7 and saw the United nations for the first time!

 

[my_tee_mouse]

If she is like my daughter she will just do it without questions lol.They get use to the weird request. I have called and asked her the weirdest things.lol

And my son has learned to just answer all my weird questions...just assumes they are WS-related. lol Shoot, I could jump off into la-la land, and he'd think I was jibbering on about some case. :facepalm:

 

[Magdalyn]

can anyone hear/understand what RP is shouting during the vigil? I can't make it out.....

My best guess:

"(Un)til you carried a baby ... (that's/then?) murdered, YOU CAN'T JUDGE ME!"

ETA: Ack, I meant to type "judge" not touch.

 

[Tonya421]

I feel like I am seeing as many flags in this case as I did when I was 7 and saw the United nations for the first time!

:floorlaugh: Thanks, I needed that laugh!

 

[cluciano63]

This mom may come to regret living in a "Sunshine Laws" state, along with many other regrets.

 

[MadamReporter]

Pardon if this was already posted, but I just came upon it.....

I think this is a newer video

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=317965

It's worth watching!

It's strange to me that the boyfriend refers to the alleged murder by his first name. DONALD? Did he know him previously?

Watch it again because after he calls him Donald he catches himself and says, "And this came from some of the people at Walmart, 'Donald talked Cherish into following him to McDonald's.'" In other words, he's insinuating that these eyewitnesses at Walmart are on a first-name basis with Donald and Aheron is just repeating what they said.

 

[Gypsy Road]

Watch it again because after he calls him Donald he catches himself and says, "And this came from some of the people at Walmart, 'Donald talked Cherish into following him to McDonald's.'" In other words, he was just repeating a quote he heard.

I caught that. But to still call him Donald again in the quote? My hink meter needle went all the way to the right!

His eyes are clear as a bell, too. Mine would still be bloodshot from all the crying I would do if that kind of horrific event happened in my life.

 

[blue22]

I'm really disturbed by how they are putting leaving Walmart on Cherish. She followed him. He talked her into it. She was taught not to go with strangers. Poor little girl deserves to rest in peace. All this passive agressive blaming from them, is a disgrace.

 

[Magdalyn]

Were I in mom or stepdad's position, not only would I not refer to the perp by his first name, I don't think I could call him Mr. Smith either. I think I would be reduced to referring to him is "he" and "that man" and "the man".

Or "that monster."

Donald sounds way too familiar in this case. Puts to mind images of them having a beer together or something.

 

[Gypsy Road]

Were I in mom or stepdad's position, not only would I not refer to the perp by his first name, I don't think I could call him Mr. Smith either. I think I would be reduced to referring to him is "he" and "that man" and "the man".

Or "that monster."

Donald sounds way too familiar in this case. Puts to mind images of them having a beer together or something.

I had the same conversation in my own head. There is no way I could call him "Donald". No way. Monster is what I think I would have called him - and probably with tears of hurt and anger in my eyes.

 

[mikeysmommom]

No, I rewatched it at least 5 times and couldn't make out what she said.

I do feel bad for her, but damn....how could she be so careless and reckless!!

I think she said "Unless you have had your daughter taken and murdered,you can't touch me" I listen and that is what it sounds like to me.

I have never had this happen to me but It did happen to my Aunt but it was her son. I can not type what she said that she would have replied had she been there except to say she should not expect a pass because she joined the club.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I still cannot comprehend doing interviews. I don't know if I'd be able to breathe unassisted if my baby girl just got murdered. Speaking to the media wouldn't even be a consideration. Why does she even care that people are judging her, if she did nothing wrong why does she care?

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I'm really disturbed by how they are putting leaving Walmart on Cherish. She followed him. He talked her into it. She was taught not to go with strangers. Poor little girl deserves to rest in peace. All this passive agressive blaming from them, is a disgrace.

The employees heard "Donald" talking Cherish into leaving. The bio dad is blasting the mom.

It's called deflection. Both mother and b/f seem to be very good at it.

 

[blue22]

I also find their statements disturbing. They are more concerned with her public image, then justice and outrage for her daughter. All of their statements have been spinning the Mcdonalds thing. Nothing about wanting the monster to be locked up, nothing about their grief.

And how on earth would he even know what the employees are saying. If any of you worked at Walmart, would you just stand by as an old man tries to convince a little girl to go with him to Mcdonalds? A Mcdonalds that you KNOW is closed? Then, do nothing as they leave the store. Anyone?

 

[Ausgirl]

So I'm not sure why there's flack for calling a boyfriend a boyfriend.

I was objecting to the term "Babydaddy", more than anything.

He was also referrring to Rayne as his wife, I noticed, and msms were putting it as "wife", he's described as "live-in" rather than "partner"..

I just wasn't understanding that there's still places where defacto/commonlaw parnerships aren't recognised, so the only proper term they have is "boyfriend".

I do stand corrected. I can't say I think much of that particular law, but I get it now.

 

[Donjeta]

Judging by this, I don't think he went into the dressing room WITH her...which is a bit of a relief. But I am betting he was wanting to!! Still a bit suss that he took her to the dressing rooms at all...he is a stranger.

This should have had her worried alone, but what blows my mind is the fact that an old male stranger wants to buy your 8 year old daughter high heels and you don't run for the hills!!!! that is very very creepy

I said it before, but I think mum and this guy had a bit of a flirtation either prior or at the dollar shop, he flattered her (all the while wanting the daughter) and it has gone from there...I don't think she thought he was a family man, I think she thought he was cracking on (aussie slang) to her and she thought she'd use him.......just a feeling, also her being an ex dancer and being use to getting things from men for her looks/body whatever. From what I have seen she looks quite attractive.

In a silly way I think that is why she hasn't seen the signs he was after her child daughter, because she thought he was attracted to her. Just my thoughts..but something isn't adding up.

BBM. What was mom doing at the time? Would she even know if he went in the dressing room with Cherish or not?

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I was objecting to the term "Babydaddy", more than anything.

Pearson was also referrring to Rayne as his wife, I noticed, and msms were putting it as "wife", he's described as "live-in" rather than "partner"..

I just wasn't understanding that there's still places where defacto/commonlaw parnerships aren't recognised, so the only proper term they have is "boyfriend".

I do stand corrected. I can't say I think much of that particular law, but I get it now.

Common-law marriage is actually only recognized in nine states in the U.S.: Alabama, Colorado, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Iowa, Montana, Texas, and Utah (that last one actually surprises me). That's per Wiki, so...well, it's Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage_in_the_United_States

I was actually surprised to recently learn that for federal income tax purposes, common-law marriages are seen as any other marriage. What I've wondered is how a common-law marriage is dissolved.


ETA: Oh. And the District of Columbia too, apparently? (And I can't stand the terms "baby daddy" and "baby momma" either).