NOT GUILTY FL - Collin Griffith, 17, stabs mother to death 1 year after fatally shooting father - Sep. 11, 2024

[Rolypolyoly]

Maybe one of them will open up, and give us insight into their thinking. Just baffling.
Bone chilling. Prosecutor should go into tax law.

I have to admit I formed an impression of the prosecutor when I was trying to watch his opening statement, and I couldn't get through it, he didn't pull my attention with his words <modsnip>

 

[cujenn81]

And why did they not before....
I just hope Texas does not give up..

Ohhhh how I wish I was around the breakfast table with any and all these jurers when they learn about the father's death as well.....................

This one is just so hard to bear.

I think the dad’s murder happened in Oklahoma, not Texas. But I read an old news article (sorry—I don’t have it handy and couldn’t immediately find it) but it said that mom sent CG texts on the day she was killed that threatened to hand over proof that he killed his dad to his probation officers if he didn’t return home. I think she even said she had an email already queued up (or something to that effect) with Ring camera footage of him bragging about the murder. I have to assume that FL investigators found the text exchange between mom and CG after she was murdered and maybe that led them to whatever proof or footage she was talking about in her text.

This Daily Mail article mentions texts that mom sent to her neighbor earlier that same day but it doesn’t include the texts she sent to CG.

Mom's haunting final posts before she was killed by 'psychopath' son

Catherine Griffith, 39, made chilling posts in the days prior to her murder, allegedly at the hands of son Collin Griffith, 17.

www.dailymail.co.uk

On the day of her death she told the neighbor: 'I'm meeting with his probation officer Monday morning if he doesn't come home today by ten. He knows the time and deadline.

'He's choosing to skip it and hide out at my mom's house in Polk county which is also a violation.'

In her final text she wrote: 'He won't listen I am going to drive to get him and if he doesn't get in the car then Polk county can deal with him.'
We all know how that ended…

 

[cujenn81]

Mom's haunting final posts before she was killed by 'psychopath' son

Catherine Griffith, 39, made chilling posts in the days prior to her murder, allegedly at the hands of son Collin Griffith, 17.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The same Daily Mail article references an eerie FB post that Catherine shared the week before she died that included lyrics from It’s Time to Go by Taylor Swift.

I want to clarify that this song is NOT about suicide. It’s about how giving up on somebody or something that hurts you is the best thing you can do. I just wanted to clarify because the specific lyrics that Catherine shared (while certainly the most poetic) could be misconstrued, and I don’t want to give the defense attorney’s argument that her murder might’ve been “suicide by son” — or whatever that utterly disgusting comment was that she said — one iota of weight.

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[Megnut]

I think the dad’s murder happened in Oklahoma, not Texas. But I read an old news article (sorry—I don’t have it handy and couldn’t immediately find it) but it said that mom sent CG texts on the day she was killed that threatened to hand over proof that he killed his dad to his probation officers if he didn’t return home. I think she even said she had an email already queued up (or something to that effect) with Ring camera footage of him bragging about the murder. I have to assume that FL investigators found the text exchange between mom and CG after she was murdered and maybe that led them to whatever proof or footage she was talking about in her text.

This Daily Mail article mentions texts that mom sent to her neighbor earlier that same day but it doesn’t include the texts she sent to CG.

Mom's haunting final posts before she was killed by 'psychopath' son

Catherine Griffith, 39, made chilling posts in the days prior to her murder, allegedly at the hands of son Collin Griffith, 17.

www.dailymail.co.uk

On the day of her death she told the neighbor: 'I'm meeting with his probation officer Monday morning if he doesn't come home today by ten. He knows the time and deadline.

'He's choosing to skip it and hide out at my mom's house in Polk county which is also a violation.'

In her final text she wrote: 'He won't listen I am going to drive to get him and if he doesn't get in the car then Polk county can deal with him.'
We all know how that ended…

I think the murder of his father should have been fair game because it goes to MOTIVE.

SHE WAS SUICIDAL, not homicidal.

She had no motive to kill him.

He had notice to kill her. Defense was right. It wasn't a RAGE killing in the sense of out-of-control rage. Cold, calculated, confident. Nothing tentative about that neck injury.

And is walking free.

Lord.

JMO

 

[DropthePuck]

I thought it was Oklahoma...
Did anyone catch the COURT TV reel of him walking out of the jail last night?
It was chilling.
He walks out, no one to greet him or happy that he is getting out (for good reason) and he's walking alone, down the sidewalk as if into the night, into the streets...
Don't know if there was a car waiting but certainly not what you normally see.

I'm truly shocked Grandma was not waiting at the door of the jail with open arms. I hope Grandpa is in a safe place.
And yes, it was Oklahoma where he killed his father, not Texas.

 

[Chimera]

Absolutely shocked !
Can't stand it.
Sad but this is how the law works.
Where is lady justice ?????

 

[Chimera]

Maybe one of them will open up, and give us insight into their thinking. Just baffling.
Bone chilling. Prosecutor should go into tax law.

Bbm.
This ^^^.
Esp. the bolded.
People around him had better never cross him or make him upset in any way !
Omo.

 

[Trebor5591]

Something is very wrong here. How could the jury think her gaping neck would was the result of "falling on a knife"? Unbelievable.

 

[CrimeTheorist]

It's almost a guarantee that he kills again.

 

[LittleSeaTree]

I think the murder of his father should have been fair game because it goes to MOTIVE.

SHE WAS SUICIDAL, not homicidal.

She had no motive to kill him.

He had notice to kill her. Defense was right. It wasn't a RAGE killing in the sense of out-of-control rage. Cold, calculated, confident. Nothing tentative about that neck injury.

And is walking free.

Lord.

JMO

I’m picturing him standing there stabbing and then holding the knife in her neck and staring into her eyes all in one motion. MOO EEK

 

[Luna20]

Have any jurors spoken yet? I haven’t read all of today’s post yet. I want to know what they think after hearing Collin also killed his father.

 

[Chimera]

It's almost a guarantee that he kills again.

ITA.
Sadly.
This is all so horrible.
No justice at all for two people, his own parents.
Imo.

 

[Megnut]

Besides lucky grandma, who is going to take him in? Who will hire him? Did he finish high school while in jail?

Even if he sets out for a fresh start, how long until he doesn't like someone's rules?

Fuse meet match.

Cold, cold fusion.

JMO

 

[Kemug]

Now that he is officially not guilty, is there anyone he can legally sue for referring to him as a murderer?

 

[Gemmie]

Now that he is officially not guilty, is there anyone he can legally sue for referring to him as a murderer?

My first thought was... 'Don't give him (or counsel) any ideas'.

 

[SolVic]

The jury being 11 women and one man struck me as odd—i wonder how many of those women are mothers themselves, and might have been inclined to feel more sympathetic to CG, thinking he was just the victim of an abusive parent, or more quick to buy the grandmother’s characterization of the deceased woman as a “bad mom.” I’ve never been called to serve on a jury, but I have always assumed that, in general, a jury that semi-reflects the diversity of citizens in our nation (“a jury of one’s peers”) would be a bit more varied (in terms of age/gender/race/job or economic status) that 11 women and one man, particularly if the defendant is male. Guess I was led astray by media portrayals!

Juror bias. In that case, try him again.

 

[Megnut]

Now that he is officially not guilty, is there anyone he can legally sue for referring to him as a murderer?

But there's no dispute that he murdered them, right? The jury found him no guilty of murder, because they must have decided he acted in self-defense, not that he didn't murder her.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Juror bias. In that case, try him again.

He can't be tried again. Not for that crime.

JMO

 

[cujenn81]

Now that he is officially not guilty, is there anyone he can legally sue for referring to him as a murderer?

Like who?

A random member of the public?
I suppose he could file a defamation of character claim, but he would be required to show proof of suffered damages. Otherwise, free speech and all that.

The prosecution?
Doubtful. Again, he’d have to prove he suffered damages BUT ALSO prove that probable cause didn’t exist.

The police?
Nope. Again, the probable cause thing.

There was plenty of probable cause. He was covered in blood. He told his grandfather he hated his mom so much that he wanted to slit her throat and watch her bleed to death. She died from a stab to the neck. Neighbors saw him dragging her inside the house by her hair during a loud argument right before she was killed. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

 

[Megnut]

IIUC he has commit two murders, but is not guilty by reason of self-defense (or not charged, in the one).

I don't understand why the jury didn't find him guilty of voluntary or involuntary manslaughter....

JMO