FL - Derek Rosa, 13, charged as adult in stabbing death of mother Irina Garcia in her sleep, 13 Oct 2023

[Kemug]

Finally we're getting somewhere!

 

[mickey2942]

The more we learn about this perp, he is definitely a good candidate for life without the possibility of parole.
Sounds like the murder was a 'thrill kill' and exciting for him.
His own mother.
I am gobsmacked that there are people supporting and defending him.
Imo.

He did not kill the baby. If he had, I would have agreed, zero potential for rehabilitation.

Maybe I feel sorry for the kid. I empathize with his plight, of having a "new father" setting into a space, and he probably felt displaced. And that cringe picture, of him having to touch his mother's pregnant belly next to his stepfather, with their hands on her belly. That is just out to lunch.

I think he felt completely betrayed by his mother. And we don't know anything about their relationship.

He reminds me of Edmund Kemper, a serial killer, from Helena, MT, who was horribly abused by his mother. He probably would have been normal if his mother hadn't been so sick.

Although, that being said, Edmund Kemper did become a serial rapist killer, probably due to his issues with his mother.

Probably right, this kid is a ticking bomb. But, at least he didn't kill the baby.

 

[Chimera]

He did not kill the baby. If he had, I would have agreed, zero potential for rehabilitation.

Maybe I feel sorry for the kid. I empathize with his plight, of having a "new father" setting into a space, and he probably felt displaced. And that cringe picture, of him having to touch his mother's pregnant belly next to his stepfather, with their hands on her belly. That is just out to lunch.

I think he felt completely betrayed by his mother. And we don't know anything about their relationship.

He reminds me of Edmund Kemper, a serial killer, from Helena, MT, who was horribly abused by his mother. He probably would have been normal if his mother hadn't been so sick.

Although, that being said, Edmund Kemper did become a serial rapist killer, probably due to his issues with his mother.

Probably right, this kid is a ticking bomb. But, at least he didn't kill the baby.

Yes, I get what you're saying ; but again it's just imo-- the acts of taking those pics and the violence of the murder make me think I could never trust him again.
Chilled to the marrow over this case.
Even if she was partial to the stepdad or too strict or whatever...
Eeek !
Omo.

 

[Charlot123]

Yes, that's the one. Perhaps he did have a thing for his mother?

I am not sure that it was a classical Oedipal complex, but too many things happened at the same time. A new husband, moving to a small apartment, and mom gets pregnant. Maybe the proximity to the couple triggered something in a boy going through puberty? Now, this "pink" photo was meant to look beautiful (like two guardian angels around the expectant mom), but God knows how a 13-year-old with own issues processed it? And then, the baby is born and mom is breastfeeding. I think that initially Derek was just close to mom, and she was a loving mom, but he couldn't process all the changes in life, being too immature. Plus, I am not sure that his friend didn't instigate him. (What normal friend would require a photo that Rosa sent?) Maybe it was a homicidal group, and Rosa was manipulated, or at least, not stopped by some "friend"? There are articles about such groups, in Germany and other countries. Some push kids to suicide, some might encourage homicide as well. The photos make me wonder.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I am gobsmacked that there are people supporting and defending him.
Imo.

Many in society want to believe that a 13-year-old couldn't be so evil, must have something good inside that can mean rehabilitation is possible.

It's too terrifying to think that maybe a 13-year-old could be beyond help, capable of anything, yet going to school with all of the other kids.

We (many in society) also want to think, his parents must have made a mistake somewhere that we wouldn't make with our own kids. It can't be all his own fault. And so we defend him.

And we often want to believe the best of others, especially young people, and give them the benefit of the doubt. That's why so many people, even those who do the worst, have a chance at parole... not saying I agree, but that's our justice system.

 

[wendybtn]

Many in society want to believe that a 13-year-old couldn't be so evil, must have something good inside that can mean rehabilitation is possible.

It's too terrifying to think that maybe a 13-year-old could be beyond help, capable of anything, yet going to school with all of the other kids.

We (many in society) also want to think, his parents must have made a mistake somewhere that we wouldn't make with our own kids. It can't be all his own fault. And so we defend him.

And we often want to believe the best of others, especially young people, and give them the benefit of the doubt. That's why so many people, even those who do the worst, have a chance at parole... not saying I agree, but that's our justice system.

Ted Bundy is suspected, never proven, of killing an 8 year old girl when he was a teenager.

Ann Marie Burr, 8, disappears from her Tacoma home on August 31, 1961

When Ann Marie Burr, 8, vanishes from her Tacoma home in the middle of an August night in 1961, it sparks a massive search for the missing girl and leads police down a maze of dead-end leads. With sc

www.historylink.org

 

[mickey2942]

I have no doubt that he should be in jail, and I doubt he is safe for society. Normal kids don't kill their mother.

Edmund Kemper, the serial killer I mentioned previously, killed both of his grandparents at age 15. And was let out at age 21, when he then began his serial killing spree. Ended when he killed his mother, and turned himself in. He was profiled by the FBI in "Manhunter".

 

[Seattle1]

During Oct and Nov 2025-- there was a slew of motions and replies filed by the parties for the case that I found very interesting.

During October, I'm sorry but not surprised to report that the defense was caught in another blatant falsehood regarding DR's mental health status. See 10/29 - STATE’S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO SUPPRESS STATEMENTS.

This exact situation came up two years ago when the defense attempted to have DR removed from Miami County Jail and sent to Juvenile Detention. At that time, the defense made the same claims, and produced school records citing DR previously presented with ADHD behavior but was not receiving any medical treatment for ADHD. However, when the defense could not produce any diagnosis or record prior to DR's arrest confirming Autism, they presented a statement from Dr. Campbell, who never examined DR or met with him in person, but opined that DR may exhibit characteristics common with autism!

Dr. Campbell was scheduled for deposition in October, but the defense halted the deposition shortly after it started. Then the doctor's clinical notes were not delivered to the State as promised. Finally, when obvious that the defense could not comply, they motioned to withdraw Dr. Campbell as their witness. Seems to me that the Court is not going to let this repeated falsehood go.

Remember when we learned that the defense was hinting they were going to blame the step-father (victim's husband) for the crime? We have a Motion filed by the State on 11/7 MOTION TO PRECLUDE EVIDENCE AND ARGUMENT OF UNSUPPORTED DEFENSE THEORY OF THIRD-PARTY GUILT PURSUANT TO KING V. STATE, MOTION TO PRECLUDE AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE OF DURESS AND NECESSITY.

It appears we are finally learning the State's theory on DR's motivation to murder his mother. Please read 11/7- STATE’S NOTICE TO ADMIT SIMILAR FACT EVIDENCE PURSUANT TO F.S. 90.404(2)(a) AND/OR INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED EVIDENCE. (pgs 1-7).

11/17 - DEREK ROSA’S RESPONSE TO STATE’S NOVEMBER 7, 2025 NOTICE TO ADMIT SIMILAR FACT EVIDENCE PURSUANT TO F.S. 90.404(2)(a) AND/OR INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED EVIDENCE (pgs 1-7).

11/20 - STATE’S REPLY TO DEFENSE’S RESPONSE TO NOTICE TO ADMIT SIMILAR FACT EVIDENCE PURSUANT TO F.S. 90.404(2)(a) AND/OR INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED EVIDENCE (pgs 1-6).

11/17- STATE’S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT’S MOTION FOR ORDER IN LIMINE; CRIME SCENE AND AUTOPSY PHOTOS ARE RELEVANT, AND THEIR ADMISSION WOULD BE MORE PROBATIVE THAN PREJUDICIAL (pgs 1-7).

11/14 - STATE’S MOTION FOR WRITTEN ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL PURSUANT TO FLA. R. GEN. PRAC. & JUD. ADMIN RULE 2.505(f)(1). STATE’S MOTION FOR CLARIFICATION OF COURT’S RULING PERMITTING MR. JOSE BAEZ TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL OF RECORD.

Attorney Jose Baez appears to be playing games with the Court!

After the Parties met in Chambers with the Judge on 11/13, the Court agreed to allow Baez to withdraw from the case for personal reasons, docs filed with the clerk under seal, and where Michelle Medina and Dayliset Rielo agreed to continue representing the Defendant in the absence of Mr. Baez. The Court allowed Mr. Baez to excuse himself prior to the Court announcing the withdrawal of Mr. Baez as counsel of record in open court. Mr. Baez was advised and agreed that this would occur in open court in his absence.
Following the hearing, it was brought to the State’s attention that a public statement was released via the Baez law firm’s Instagram account. In this joint public statement with the father of the Defendant, Mr. Baez represents that he will “remain as Derek’s attorney."

The State is requesting a hearing with the Defendant and his father present so they can be informed of this Court’s ruling on the motion to withdraw as counsel made by Mr. Baez. Additionally, the State is requesting that a written order be entered pursuant to Fla. R. Gen. Prac. & Jud. Admin Rule 2.505(f)(1).

https://www2.miamidadeclerk.gov/cjis/casesearchinfo?qs=uoPdDVfJ6VMN48qmP0TsQl1lB2mg%252FoUtdbQ67Zfiz8mQPhr3NBL%252FY0Rgq7KsMm%252Bo#Hearings

https://www2.miamidadeclerk.gov/cjis/

Oct - Dec 2025 Docket Attached

 

[Seattle1]

Following the hearing, it was brought to the State’s attention that a public statement was released via the Baez law firm’s Instagram account. In this joint public statement with the father of the Defendant, Mr. Baez represents that he will “remain as Derek’s attorney."

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[Kemug]

Probably right, this kid is a ticking bomb. But, at least he didn't kill the baby.

RSBM
Perhaps he now wishes he had, we don't know. If he's ever freed, I wouldn't want him allowed any contact with her.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Ted Bundy is suspected, never proven, of killing an 8 year old girl when he was a teenager.

Ann Marie Burr, 8, disappears from her Tacoma home on August 31, 1961

When Ann Marie Burr, 8, vanishes from her Tacoma home in the middle of an August night in 1961, it sparks a massive search for the missing girl and leads police down a maze of dead-end leads. With sc

www.historylink.org

Extraordinary article about the case of Ann..............
So thorough the story, and how it impacts a family for decades and decades, dying with no answers.