FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 *ARRESTS* #9

[Lovemymnmnbren]

I am an unverified person who has interacted with TS and MS on enough occasions that I have formed a very strong opinion about MS. This opinion was formed years before the murder. MS talked about money ALOT. MS talked about TS and her accomplishments ALOT. MS professed love and adoration for TS ALOT. All of these things made interaction uncomfortable and made me VERY suspicious of MS motives for marrying TS. It seemed to me that MS was using his marriage to TS for status, for money, and to allow him a way of life where he did not have to work. TS LOVED practicing medicine. It is my opinion that TS gave MS control of the household and professional business so that she could focus on the medicine and help as many people as possible. TS was not the one interested in money or status. TS was interested in medicine and charitable healthcare. At the very least MS introduced into the world of his loving family a depraved killer. At the most, MS was involved. I tend to believe - based on the negative personal opinion I formed prior to the murder based on real interaction - and based on the uncanny amount of coincidences that seem to have taken place, that MS was involved. I thought this before CWW and since CWW there is no turning back from this opinion. I think MS is savvy though and I will be surprised if anything more than circumstantial evidence implicates him.

Absolutely agree

 

[Paulas88]

I am an unverified person who has interacted with TS and MS on enough occasions that I have formed a very strong opinion about MS. This opinion was formed years before the murder. MS talked about money ALOT. MS talked about TS and her accomplishments ALOT. MS professed love and adoration for TS ALOT. All of these things made interaction uncomfortable and made me VERY suspicious of MS motives for marrying TS. It seemed to me that MS was using his marriage to TS for status, for money, and to allow him a way of life where he did not have to work. TS LOVED practicing medicine. It is my opinion that TS gave MS control of the household and professional business so that she could focus on the medicine and help as many people as possible. TS was not the one interested in money or status. TS was interested in medicine and charitable healthcare. At the very least MS introduced into the world of his loving family a depraved killer. At the most, MS was involved. I tend to believe - based on the negative personal opinion I formed prior to the murder based on real interaction - and based on the uncanny amount of coincidences that seem to have taken place, that MS was involved. I thought this before CWW and since CWW there is no turning back from this opinion. I think MS is savvy though and I will be surprised if anything more than circumstantial evidence implicates him.

Nah... If MS is involved, he's gonna be caught. I have every confidence in the LE.

 

[SeesSeas]

I am an unverified person who has interacted with TS and MS on enough occasions that I have formed a very strong opinion about MS. This opinion was formed years before the murder. MS talked about money ALOT. MS talked about TS and her accomplishments ALOT. MS professed love and adoration for TS ALOT. All of these things made interaction uncomfortable and made me VERY suspicious of MS motives for marrying TS. It seemed to me that MS was using his marriage to TS for status, for money, and to allow him a way of life where he did not have to work. TS LOVED practicing medicine. It is my opinion that TS gave MS control of the household and professional business so that she could focus on the medicine and help as many people as possible. TS was not the one interested in money or status. TS was interested in medicine and charitable healthcare. At the very least MS introduced into the world of his loving family a depraved killer. At the most, MS was involved. I tend to believe - based on the negative personal opinion I formed prior to the murder based on real interaction - and based on the uncanny amount of coincidences that seem to have taken place, that MS was involved. I thought this before CWW and since CWW there is no turning back from this opinion. I think MS is savvy though and I will be surprised if anything more than circumstantial evidence implicates him.

IF "MS was involved" what do you think his motive would be?

 

[Scout]

I am an unverified person who has interacted with TS and MS on enough occasions that I have formed a very strong opinion about MS. This opinion was formed years before the murder. MS talked about money ALOT. MS talked about TS and her accomplishments ALOT. MS professed love and adoration for TS ALOT. All of these things made interaction uncomfortable and made me VERY suspicious of MS motives for marrying TS. It seemed to me that MS was using his marriage to TS for status, for money, and to allow him a way of life where he did not have to work. TS LOVED practicing medicine. It is my opinion that TS gave MS control of the household and professional business so that she could focus on the medicine and help as many people as possible. TS was not the one interested in money or status. TS was interested in medicine and charitable healthcare. At the very least MS introduced into the world of his loving family a depraved killer. At the most, MS was involved. I tend to believe - based on the negative personal opinion I formed prior to the murder based on real interaction - and based on the uncanny amount of coincidences that seem to have taken place, that MS was involved. I thought this before CWW and since CWW there is no turning back from this opinion. I think MS is savvy though and I will be surprised if anything more than circumstantial evidence implicates him.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[debbiegarcia36]

I guess I just assume that amongst someone's reasons for accusing a man of conspiring to murder his wife, there would be some evidence...

Many of us are on the fence as we are not privy to the tons of evidence LE has. What we have for now is a gut feeling based on common sense, past experience, knowledge of criminal behavior, "intuition " and so on.

 

[Deleted member 159541]

IF "MS was involved" what do you think his motive would be?

I have thought about this a lot. My best guesses in no order of priority (a) MS affair and he believed he could keep practice running, cable deals etc... (b) TS tired of MS and wanted out of marriage but MS wanted a scenario where he could keep practice running, cable deals etc...

Least likely in my opinion but possible is some type of billing fraud/Medicare fraud between MS and CWW

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Remember what I started with though, MS talked about money ALOT. And he built his "reputation" in the Naples/Bonita Springs area around his wife. The only way he kept both if something went south was (in his mind) to kill her. But again, I think he enlisted CWW and kept his hands very clean.

 

[KayCherry]

I am an unverified person who has interacted with TS and MS on enough occasions that I have formed a very strong opinion about MS. This opinion was formed years before the murder. MS talked about money ALOT. MS talked about TS and her accomplishments ALOT. MS professed love and adoration for TS ALOT. All of these things made interaction uncomfortable and made me VERY suspicious of MS motives for marrying TS. It seemed to me that MS was using his marriage to TS for status, for money, and to allow him a way of life where he did not have to work. TS LOVED
practicing medicine. It is my opinion that TS gave MS control of the household and professional business so that she could focus on the medicine and help as many people as possible. TS was not the one interested in money or status. TS was interested in medicine and charitable healthcare. At the very least MS introduced into the world of his loving family a depraved killer. At the most, MS was involved. I tend to believe - based on the negative personal opinion I formed prior to the murder based on real interaction - and based on the uncanny amount of coincidences that seem to have taken place, that MS was involved. I thought this before CWW and since CWW there is no turning back from this opinion. I think MS is savvy though and I will be surprised if anything more than circumstantial evidence implicates him.

thank you for this in-depth perspective...

 

[wondering25]

Nah... If MS is involved, he's gonna be caught. I have every confidence in the LE.

Unless one of the 2 people already in custody sings.. and even then.. how do you prove a hit? he was 1800 miles away. he has every reason to have telephone communication.. internet connectivity etc. with CWW they are lifelong friends and CWW is also a business associate.

Unless there is a note, a check, a bank video surveillance with MS withdrawing a HUGE amount of cash and an envelope found in JRs trailer with MS fingerprints on it.. i just dont know. it would NOT be good news if MS really was once in JR's trailer. That would mean that any of MS' dna if found in JR's trailer could be there from a visit and not from transfer from JR being in Florida in MS' home. We dont even know who was wearing the jumpsuit and whose blood is on it.. do we?

IF MS has a girlfriend, if TS has a lover, whatever then there would be a motive. I have my guess on that. and yes, insurance would be a motive, especially if either MS or TS wanted out. Someone has to sing, make a deal with LE.. i dont know.. turn state's evidence? Even then, they need more than that. IMO. I read somewhere in all of this about taking saliva samples from the dogs. Can anyone tell me what that even means? Did they think the dogs mauled TS? Did they do doggie DNA because they thought the dogs were switched or something? I think there are many many cases where LE knows who else is involved but they just cant prove it. Sometimes they have to prosecute who they can and call it solved. Awful thought. JMO on all of this.

 

[indianwin2001]

I have thought about this a lot. My best guesses in no order of priority (a) MS affair and he believed he could keep practice running, cable deals etc... (b) TS tired of MS and wanted out of marriage but MS wanted a scenario where he could keep practice running, cable deals etc...

Least likely in my opinion but possible is some type of billing fraud/Medicare fraud between MS and CWW

<modsnip>

Remember what I started with though, MS talked about money ALOT. And he built his "reputation" in the Naples/Bonita Springs area around his wife. The only way he kept both if something went south was (in his mind) to kill her. But again, I think he enlisted CWW and kept his hands very clean.

I agree

 

[indianwin2001]

Unless one of the 2 people already in custody sings.. and even then.. how do you prove a hit? he was 1800 miles away. he has every reason to have telephone communication.. internet connectivity etc. with CWW they are lifelong friends and CWW is also a business associate.

Unless there is a note, a check, a bank video surveillance with MS withdrawing a HUGE amount of cash and an envelope found in JRs trailer with MS fingerprints on it.. i just dont know. it would NOT be good news if MS really was once in JR's trailer. That would mean that any of MS' dna if found in JR's trailer could be there from a visit and not from transfer from JR being in Florida in MS' home. We dont even know who was wearing the jumpsuit and whose blood is on it.. do we?

IF MS has a girlfriend, if TS has a lover, whatever then there would be a motive. I have my guess on that. and yes, insurance would be a motive, especially if either MS or TS wanted out. Someone has to sing, make a deal with LE.. i dont know.. turn state's evidence? Even then, they need more than that. IMO. I read somewhere in all of this about taking saliva samples from the dogs. Can anyone tell me what that even means? Did they think the dogs mauled TS? Did they do doggie DNA because they thought the dogs were switched or something? I think there are many many cases where LE knows who else is involved but they just cant prove it. Sometimes they have to prosecute who they can and call it solved. Awful thought. JMO on all of this.

Great post

 

[LightShineOn]

I'm still on the fence. My rational side thinks he was involved, but my emotional side thinks he couldn't do something like this. My emotional side can also see CWW taking it on himself to do this without MS knowing. We know he was cooking meth in MS's house without his knowledge. He is the type that would take advantage of a friend for his own gain without the knowledge of said friend.

I'm still on the fence too...I call it my wall, but...I do have to say that I've not jumped on and off of it today, as I did yesterday & last night.

As for CWW, I agree with you and additionally, I'm not so sure that he's capable of even being a real friend. I get the feeling that his "friends" are usually to always, people he can use, for one reason or another; he picks them accordingly. I think that CWW could have definitely been capable of murdering Dr. S and/or putting the whole crime together. He comes across to me, as a cold user and abuser with a very small moral compass, if any. I think it's quite possible he would have planned and/or carried out the crime, if (1) he was feeling threatened by something Dr. S had found out & related to MS. Something that was resulting in his termination from the medical practice and could land him in jail as well, or (2) Dr. S had information or something that he needed, to benefit him and she refused to give it to him. The reasons could be many and could go on and on. I think if this was the case (CWW being "the man" of the plan), and was about Dr. S finding out or knowing something, MS related this info to LE at the beginning. It would explain too, why Sheriff Scott has nothing really, to say about MS and why MS remains so silent...for the safety of the children and himself/MS; it cannot be known that info was given by MS, or what specifically it was. Especially if it involves a drug operation and the Sheriff is going for the capture and arrest of all involved.

As an added thought~Going along with the possibility that CWW was the sole planner and manager of the Dr. S crime, I think his appearance as almost a twin to MS, was used to his advantage. He most likely knew that as Dr. S's spouse, MS would be the first one suspected and investigated; so just in case someone saw him around the time and vicinity of the crime, most would think it was MS and not CWW.

This seems a very jumbled post and I hope it makes sense. So many theories and thoughts about this crime, are dancing in my brain and I'm trying to look at all possibilities. Back now, to my seat on the fence/wall. :fence:

 

[Fldrew]

This is my first post on WS so please take it easy on me. I have several things that make me scratch my head about this case of which the first being the inconsistencies of who called who, what time the calls were made and who went to the Sievers home the morning TS was discovered. Just doesn't add up to me not to mention that it seems all the action took place within a short 45 minute window.

The silence from the beginning speaks volumes to me. I don't know that I've known of many cases where the family doesn't make statements, especially a spouse or someone speaking on behalf of.

I am at a total loss as to why someone would start a account virtually within 24 hours of this tragedy with a goal of 1mil for the family, change it shortly thereafter to go to a charity when people question motives on the page and then again change it to benefit the children and reduce the goal to 100k. This campaign was posted numerous times on MS FB page up until the day that CWW home was raided. The folks that donated may very well regret doing so. There was a donation just 24 days ago for 10k from an anonymous person.

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The convenient timing of her being home alone. It was such a small window of opportunity that imo it was well planned. It's very unsettling that JR, CWW and MS are known to each other (connectivity) and one of which is MS best friend.

MS sighting with car that had a Forida plate at JR house in MO per a neighbor prior to the murder.

IMO there will be several more arrests coming. Some in MO and a couple in FL. I also think that there is an international component along with drug activity.

 

[Mountaingazer]

Does anyone know what MS would be charged with if he did have Teresa killed? Would they need to get a grand jury indictment first?

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Unless one of the 2 people already in custody sings.. and even then.. how do you prove a hit? he was 1800 miles away. he has every reason to have telephone communication.. internet connectivity etc. with CWW they are lifelong friends and CWW is also a business associate.

Unless there is a note, a check, a bank video surveillance with MS withdrawing a HUGE amount of cash and an envelope found in JRs trailer with MS fingerprints on it.. i just dont know. it would NOT be good news if MS really was once in JR's trailer. That would mean that any of MS' dna if found in JR's trailer could be there from a visit and not from transfer from JR being in Florida in MS' home. We dont even know who was wearing the jumpsuit and whose blood is on it.. do we?

IF MS has a girlfriend, if TS has a lover, whatever then there would be a motive. I have my guess on that. and yes, insurance would be a motive, especially if either MS or TS wanted out. Someone has to sing, make a deal with LE.. i dont know.. turn state's evidence? Even then, they need more than that. IMO. I read somewhere in all of this about taking saliva samples from the dogs. Can anyone tell me what that even means? Did they think the dogs mauled TS? Did they do doggie DNA because they thought the dogs were switched or something? I think there are many many cases where LE knows who else is involved but they just cant prove it. Sometimes they have to prosecute who they can and call it solved. Awful thought. JMO on all of this.

Maybe the doggies also had a "twin bro".....:scared:

 

[LightShineOn]

Nin- in the recent link of MS (in scrubs, not in scrubs hanging garbage out of his window) he appears to be driving a white Mercedes (w/hood ornament).


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That Mercedes was Dr. S's car. MS drove the van that I THINK is still with LE.

 

[wondering25]

Why were transgenders attracted to this practice? I have a strong suspicion but i wonder if anyone else has a theory?

JMO

 

[Stopwatch]

Thanks for the reply. But that's not really what I was looking for. All of this is going with the assumption that MS was involved and trying to exclude him. I am looking for evidence that points towards MS being involved. In other words, what makes you want to include him? There has to be reasons to include him in a scenario before we can try to exclude him.. Right?

I respectfully disagree. This is going on the assumption he was *not* involved, and trying to explain why his best friend murdered his wife. Also, you requested reasons, not evidence. The police are keepers of the evidence, for now.

 

[Stopwatch]

1. Logic

Thank you!!!

 

[Sillybilly]

Does anyone know what MS would be charged with if he did have Teresa killed? Would they need to get a grand jury indictment first?

Charge would most likely be "solicitation to commit first degree murder" as in the Dippolito case in Florida:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/13/florida.hitman/

 

[LightShineOn]

okay so lets say MS is innocent and cooperating with LE and even told them some evidence that helped them catch the culprits. so NOW that they are safely behind bars what would prevent Sheriff Scott from thanking the victims husband for his great contribution? or even saying that he is cooperative or even say he is not a POI? Sheriff Scott is not even throwing MS a bone at this point. in fact he is staying far far away from even the subject of MS

Perhaps because the Sheriff is going after everyone who is involved in let's say, a drug running operation that perhaps CWW was also involved in. Sheriff may have uncovered a bigger web that he's trying to sweep down. I really don't see how the Sheriff is treating MS any different than anyone else in this. I've heard Scott say repeatedly that everyone remains under suspicion and no one has been cleared. <modsnip>