FL - Five killed, 8 wounded in shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport, 6 Jan 2017

[Inthedetails]

CNN has mayor on she is saying the suspects identity may be wrong?!?!??!

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That is strange, considering family members are speaking about him.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Are you sure you don't mean the middle finger! LOL!

Lol. My dad definitely did that, too.

 

[Lauranyc83]

That is strange, considering family members are speaking about him.

That's what I thought. She basically said that the shooter may have been using stolen identity. So confusing for her to say this if in fact that is not true.

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[Tawny]

That's what I thought. She basically said that the shooter may have been using stolen identity. So confusing for her to say this if in fact that is not true.

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[Purplepixii]

What flight is this?

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Lauranyc83

FR24 think it's a helicopter but have no other info apparently. Would make sense judging by flight speed & altitude.


Still listening to ATC - stationary planes have received water, think most if not all of the loos have been emptied but now food is needed. Also they need refuelling as they don't have enough left to reach their destinations. So they'll have to go back to gates for that but there's plenty of time as the airport won't open for another few hours yet.

So glad I am not on one of those flights - as a nervous flyer and a smoker I would be climbing the cabin walls!

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

Suspect's IG account - https://www.instagram.com/naota333/

No recent activity

It's off already

 

[gitana1]

Lol. My dad definitely did that, too.

It always reminds me of dictators. Did you ever ask why your dad did that?

 

[Elley Mae]

National news outlets said the gunman was Esteban Santiago, 26, of Anchorage. Public records show that Esteban Santiago, born March 16, 1990, has lived in Anchorage and applied for Alaska Permanent Fund dividends in 2015 and 2016.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/cri...-shooting-has-same-name-age-as-anchorage-man/

Santiago was charged in an Anchorage domestic violence case in January when his girlfriend called police to complain he tried to bash in the bathroom door in her small home, according to a criminal complaint filed in Anchorage District Court. The violence took place at the girlfriend's home in the Fairview neighborhood on Medfra Street. The girlfriend called police and reported that her boyfriend was angry and "was yelling at her while she was in the bathroom."



When an officer arrived, Santiago was gone. The bathroom door was smashed off the frame. Santiago was charged with assault and criminal mischief. The girlfriend said Santiago cursed her, ordered her to leave the place, tried to strangle her and smacked her on the side of her head. But the police officer reported he didn't see any injuries on her.

A month later, in February, Santiago was accused with violating his conditions of release on the January charges. Police checking up on him found him at the girlfriend's house, though he had been ordered as a condition of release to stay away unless police were at hand.


Santiago registered to vote in 2014, giving a South Anchorage address at a trailer court. And he was the defendant in a 2015 eviction case filed by Weidner Investment Services and had several motor vehicle violations.

 

[Gardenista]

My son does this in every picture. He also sticks his tongue out. I think it's just what this generation think is cool. I say, idiotic.

Yeah, but does he say ISIS wants him to fight for them?

 

[Tawny]

Yeah, but does he say ISIS wants him to fight for them?

He said he heard voices telling him to fight for ISIS.

 

[Elley Mae]

The gunman - identified by authorities as 26-year-old Esteban Santiago, an Army National Guard veteran who served in Iraq but was discharged last year for unsatisfactory performance - was immediately taken into custody. His brother said he had been receiving psychological treatment recently.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-01-06-18-15-11

It is legal for airline passengers to travel with guns and ammunition as long as the firearms are put in a checked bag - not a carry-on - and are unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container. Guns must be declared to the airline at check-in.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

Has violence/domestic dispute history
Told FBI he heard voices
Was receiving mental health care
Discharged from the military
Obtained gun and checked it onto an airplane

I mean....:gaah:

 

[LaborDayRN]

CNN has mayor on she is saying the suspects identity may be wrong?!?!??!

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Sounds like LE or the Mayor may have egg on their face.....my guess is the mayor.

 

[Purplepixii]

Starting to get desperate on those parked planes. Parents with kids who are running out of formula. One passenger who needs a carbs meal within the next 30 minutes or he'll go into keto(something - I missed it - low blood sugar?) which will require an ambulance to remove him from the plane.

AFAIK, the Captain is in charge of the plane and can disembark passengers if he/she sees fit. Would be a very silly move right now if the terminals are still being swept but I could understand it happening...

 

[katydid23]

In my opinion, after seeing other pro-ISIS pictures over the years, THIS is also pro-ISIS:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shooting-Ft-Lauderdale-Hollywood-Airport.html


It is not just the way he places the finger salute, it is the green scarf worn in that specific way.


I think he was experiencing mental health issues AND he was having thoughts about fighting for ISIS invading his mind.

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

For right now, it appears to me that he got into a altercation/difference of opinion/argument on the flight there. And he was just boiling over and decided to show those on the plane not to mess with him. Almost like a road rage incident with delay reaction.

While I don't have a solution for th people responsible for these kind of serial murder incidents, humiliating them and making fun of them, could only incite more anger and possibly more incidents like these. This is in reference of parading them in cages, making fun of them or such.
My apologies if I understood it wrong. I've read way too much the last little bit.

All MOO!

 

[katydid23]

For right now, it appears to me that he got into a altercation/difference of opinion/argument on the flight there. And he was just boiling over and decided to show those on the plane not to mess with him. Almost like a road rage incident with delay reaction.

While I don't have a solution for th people responsible for these kind of serial murder incidents, humiliating them and making fun of them, could only incite more anger and possibly more incidents like these. This is in reference of parading them in cages, making fun of them or such.
My apologies if I understood it wrong. I've read way too much the last little bit.

All MOO!

But the people he shot were not from his same flight. The witness on Fox, who was standing next to two of those killed, said they were all from a flight from Atlanta. They were not on the same flight as the shooter.

 

[Inthedetails]

For right now, it appears to me that he got into a altercation/difference of opinion/argument on the flight there. And he was just boiling over and decided to show those on the plane not to mess with him. Almost like a road rage incident with delay reaction.

While I don't have a solution for th people responsible for these kind of serial murder incidents, humiliating them and making fun of them, could only incite more anger and possibly more incidents like these. This is in reference of parading them in cages, making fun of them or such.
My apologies if I understood it wrong. I've read way too much the last little bit.

All MOO!

I think it was a mixed motive, with overlap of a "regular" rage-fueled rampage with "terrorist" tones.

At this point (obviously, subject to change), I think he was traveling to Florida like a regular passenger with no intentions of doing harm. But, he got into some sort of argument in flight. The "ISIS voices" in his head responded to the argument with the terrorist-style violence.

If he hadn't gotten in the argument, I don't think he would've opened fire at the airport. If he hadn't heard voices in his head, I don't think he would open fire in response to an argument. But he got in the argument AND he heard voices....AND he had a gun and could aim.

Of course, we may learn more information that changes our opinions, but at the moment, this my opinion.

Very scary for everyone at that airport.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

But the people he shot were not from his same flight. The witness on Fox, who was standing next to two of those killed, said they were all from a flight from Atlanta. They were not on the same flight as the shooter.

Mass shooters often aim at random people, not necessarily at a specific person who set them off.

 

[Purplepixii]

Terminals 1, 3 & 4 are open and aircraft are being allowed to return to the gates. Shift swap time as well as refuelling time no doubt.