FL - Five killed, 8 wounded in shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport, 6 Jan 2017

[CARIIS]

I think that if he had done it THEN claimed CIA told him malingering might be a consideration

Doing that two months in advance is a bit of stretch for me in light of the clear regression he had going on - typically it sis progressive .

moo

 

[dotr]

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article125598049.html

Jose Cintron Rosado, 38, and Jose Delgado Arroyo, 41, were best friends who were deployed together the previous April. They were like father figures to the younger soldiers who were members of the 1013th Engineering Company, 103rd Battalion, out of Aguadilla, Puerto Rico.

That day, the two men were killed in a roadside blast, and their deaths hit the tight-knit unit especially hard, a military official said at the time.
“This was tough. We consider ourselves family,’’ Maj. Paul Dahlen said in 2011.
Among those in the unit was Esteban Santiago, a 20-year-old soldier doing his first overseas deployment

Military officials do not know to what extent, if any, Santiago might have been friends with the two men who were killed — or whether he was part of the convoy that day. But Friday’s mass shooting came almost six years to the day after their deaths.

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[dotr]

Some debate in this recent case concerning a returning soldier with ptsd and the murders he committed when he returned home. ES's family members got lucky in that regard, imo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/0...-role-of-family-violence-here_n_14067528.html

HALIFAX — A week after a former soldier suffering from PTSD killed his wife, daughter and mother before killing himself, a difficult and complex debate has emerged in Nova Scotia about the role of domestic violence in the tragedy

Family members say Lionel Desmond, 33, was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder after a tour in Afghanistan in 2007, and had received treatment from the military. But relatives have also suggested the former infantryman did not get the help he needed when he returned to Nova Scotia 18 months ago, despite his family's best efforts to seek medical care.

Ardath Whynacht, a sociology professor at Mount Allison University in New Brunswick, said people naturally seek simple explanations for horrific things, but it is a mistake to attribute the crime specifically to PTSD.

"This case is an anomaly if we look at it through the lens of PTSD. But it's not an anomaly when we look at the trends in intimate partner violence."​

There is nothing in the medical literature to suggest post-traumatic stress disorder leads to violence, she said

rbbm

 

[katydid23]

That photographer got a good shot. Probably raked in the cash for that one!

It is a very chilling photo. And the photographer got a shot of exactly what he saw---an intense young man.

 

[dotr]

Practically giddy, imo, speculation, who exactly are they " mourning "?
[video=youtube;Odp2cEddZ18]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odp2cEddZ18[/video]

 

[Bently]

Carry is, ( aka CARIIS :giggle: now that I know how to pronounce your moniker correctly from the other thread or you gave background on how you made your name), I love seeing the newspaper front pages.

Thank you for the time you took to compile them all and post them for us. ( my thanks button has not worked in months grrrr)

O/T is there a website where you can get them to capture all of them? How do you compile them?

 

[popsicle]

Practically giddy, imo, speculation, who exactly are they " mourning "?
[video=youtube;Odp2cEddZ18]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odp2cEddZ18[/video]

That is bizarre.

 

[gitana1]

Practically giddy, imo, speculation, who exactly are they " mourning "?
[video=youtube;Odp2cEddZ18]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odp2cEddZ18[/video]

If this is his girlfriend's daughter, how old is the girlfriend?

 

[human]

PTSD and violence

http://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/co-occurring/research_on_ptsd_and_violence.asp

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Fla. Airport Shooting Suspect's Mental Issues May Explain Little

While mental health troubles could turn out to play a role in the case, it's unusual for symptoms to drive violence, says Edward Mulvey, a psychologist at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine who studies violence and mental illness.

Mulvey said there are people who are driven to violence by delusions, but "they're rare, they're much less common than people might expect." Often when psychotic people are involved in violence it's not because of their mental illness but rather something else, like substance abuse, he said.

The American Psychological Association says that while there's a small association between mental illness and violence directed at others, the overwhelming majority of people with serious mental illness don't pose a risk to others and should not be stereotyped as dangerous.

Source: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...-Health-Violence-410260505.html#ixzz4VO4xOpNS
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[katydid23]

If this is his girlfriend's daughter, how old is the girlfriend?

I read somewhere upthread that she was 40, I believe.

 

[dotr]

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/201...a-airport-shooter-as-investigation-continues/

Anchorage's only mosque found itself fielding calls in recent days from people wondering if Esteban Santiago — the 26-year-old accused of killing five people at a Fort Lauderdale airport baggage claim — had ties to the mosque, after unsubstantiated reports surfaced online linking him to radical Islam.



Youssef Barbour, a spokesman for Anchorage's Islamic Community Center of Alaska, said the answer is no.


"We have no connection with this guy whatsoever," said Barbour, who works as a physician. "We are hearing the news for the first time just like everyone else."


He said he didn't recognize Santiago, nor did anyone Barbour had spoken with from the mosque.

 

[drjones]

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article125598049.html

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im pretty sure this was reported on this thread before it was anywhere else.

 

[jagdpanther3]

Yes, I do agree. I could've sworn I read something that debunked the "two buddies" story, but I can't find it.....so I think I'm losing my memory. For now, I'm accepting the story.

jmo

I wouldn't be surprised about it being debunked. I'm former air force (load master on C-17's active duty) my experience with guardsmen is they usually are in a support role for active duty. That can mean replenishing man power at active duty bases or in a support role deployed. That being said I'm skeptical about his combat experience and PTSD. Units can get medals and ribbons as long as they are attached to other units. So take that with a grain of salt.

I'm also currently a dispatcher for law enforcement, fire and emergency services. U have seen a lot of posts in this thread and many others that are just completely wrong and have mostly kept my mouth shut instead of calling them out. So if any one has questions pertaining to those subjects I'm experienced in I will do my best to answer.

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[dotr]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fo...shootings-alaska-portrait-20170109-story.html

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — The person who might know the most about Esteban Santiago's final troubled months in Alaska is Gina Marie Peterson, the 40-year-old mother of his child and the woman he once beat and strangled

Peterson was reeling from the collapse of a decade-long marriage — struggling with alcohol abuse, in and out of jail and one step ahead of rent collectors, according to court records and neighbors in the tiny town of Bird Creek, where she had lived before moving 25 miles north to Anchorage.

He was granted unlimited contact with Peterson if she allowed it. She apparently did, according to neighbors, but the couple kept to themselves and Santiago seemed distant but polite. He spent much of his time working on his car. On New Year's Eve, the couple threw a party.

"He wouldn't look me in the eyes usually," said Perette Carter. "He'd usually say, 'How you doing, ma'am,' and then just, like, look away."
Carter and other Fairview neighbors said that he never mentioned Florida.　
"That's the puzzle. Why Florida? He was just here on New Year's Eve, talking."　
It's unclear when Santiago left their Medfra Street home, but he was living in a discount motel in an Anchorage neighbor known for drug trafficking, prostitution and panhandling shortly before he bought the airline tickets that would take him to Florida.

rbbm

 

[drjones]

I wouldn't be surprised about it being debunked. I'm former air force (load master on C-17's active duty) my experience with guardsmen is they usually are in a support role for active duty. That can mean replenishing man power at active duty bases or in a support role deployed. That being said I'm skeptical about his combat experience and PTSD. Units can get medals and ribbons as long as they are attached to other units. So take that with a grain of salt.

I'm also currently a dispatcher for law enforcement, fire and emergency services. U have seen a lot of posts in this thread and many others that are just completely wrong and have mostly kept my mouth shut instead of calling them out. So if any one has questions pertaining to those subjects I'm experienced in I will do my best to answer.

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do have some specific reason to cast doubt on his CAB other than general suspicion?

*edit - its been a while, its CAB, CAR is everyone else IIRC

 

[jagdpanther3]

do have some specific reason to cast doubt on his CAR other than general suspicion?

Yes because I have experience with it. But u are right it is just speculation.

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[Inthedetails]

do have some specific reason to cast doubt on his CAR other than general suspicion?

What is CAR?

 

[jagdpanther3]

Combat action ribbon. At least that is what I know it as.

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[Inthedetails]

Combat action ribbon. At least that is what I know it as.

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Thanks. I had no idea.