FL - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 40 counts to classified documents and obstruction of justice, June 2023, Trial May 2024

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Trump’s lawyer Jim Trusty has said the charges fall under the Espionage Act, and include false statements, obstruction of justice, and illegally retaining classified documents. Speaking to CNN’s Kaitlan Collins on Thursday night, Trusty said Trump’s attorneys received a summons via email from the Justice Department on Thursday listing the charges, but haven’t seen the indictment yet.

Trusty said that because the document was a summons rather than an indictment, the number of charges was not entirely clear, but there appeared to be seven, all broadly falling under the Espionage Act.

“It does have some language in it that suggests what the seven charges would be. [It’s] not 100% clear that all of those are separate charges, but they basically break out from an Espionage Act charge,” he said, and said those included several obstruction-based charges, false statement charges, and a potential conspiracy charge.

Trusty said he expects to see the indictment between now and Tuesday, and had been summoned to appear at the courthouse at three o’clock on Tuesday.

 
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Donald Trump will attend the summons personally on Tuesday, his lawyers say.

“He’s gonna show up,” said lawyer Jim Trusty, speaking to CNN on Thursday evening. “He’s disappointed that this is where we are as a country and this is where the Department of Justice is, but he’s not - you’re not going to see him, you know, hide in Scotland.”

Trusty would not confirm which members of Trump’s legal team would be present at the hearing – there have been months of distrust and turmoil among the lawyers representing the former president. Correspondent Hugo Lowell has an exclusive report on that here:



 
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Trump indicted on SEVEN charges including violation of the ESPIONAGE ACT over classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago: Angrily proclaims his innocence ahead of Miami courthouse appearance next Tuesday​

Former President Donald Trump has been sensationally indicted on a slew of federal charges including obstruction and a violation of the Espionage Act over the classified documents he took from Mar-a-Lago.

In an unprecedented move, the Department of Justice has hit him with seven counts and has made him the first former president to face federal charges.

A furious Trump raged at the 'corrupt Biden Administration' and accused them of election interference in a video posted just minutes after the announcement from his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey.

Later he said he would 'of course' plead not guilty to the list of seven charges - including conspiracy and classified documents retention - when he appears in a Miami court next Tuesday afternoon in his second arraignment in three months.

It is the second set of charges leveled at Trump this year, plunging the country into fresh legal and political uncertainty as he campaigns to return to office and after his defeat to President Joe Biden in 2020.

It means the leading candidate in the Republican primary will have to split his time between the courtroom and the campaign trail as he tries to seal the GOP nomination.




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Documents found at Mar-a-Lago in an August raid are pictured on display

 
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Donald Trump will attend the summons personally on Tuesday, his lawyers say.

“He’s gonna show up,” said lawyer Jim Trusty, speaking to CNN on Thursday evening. “He’s disappointed that this is where we are as a country and this is where the Department of Justice is, but he’s not - you’re not going to see him, you know, hide in Scotland.”

Trusty would not confirm which members of Trump’s legal team would be present at the hearing – there have been months of distrust and turmoil among the lawyers representing the former president. Correspondent Hugo Lowell has an exclusive report on that here:




"... you’re not going to see him, you know, hide in Scotland" :D
 
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Trump has made claims that he is the victim of a politically-motivated conspiracy to keep him from returning to office an animating force of his political movement.
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The top of his social media feed on Truth Social reads: “THEY’RE NOT COMING AFTER ME, THEY’RE COMING AFTER YOU—I’M JUST STANDING IN THEIR WAY!” When he was indicted in Manhattan in April, Trump raised more than $1 million in campaign funds off the news.
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Trump’s allies were quick to defend the former President, and claim that the federal indictment was a play by President Joe Biden to torpedo Trump’s campaign.
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Ironically the, "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you" comment implies that he is above the law. Any other citizen that has done what he has would be in jail by now. He has been handled with kit gloves. LE is making absolutely sure they have their ducks in a row. They know that their evidence has to be super solid.
 
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Could Trump go to jail? Federal charges over classified docs show momentum is building​


Donald Trump is the first former president in US history to face federal criminal charges – is this a game changer or just another chapter in the drama?

He really might be going to jail.

Donald Trump just became the first former president in American history to face federal criminal charges.

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Could Trump accept the Republican nomination while wearing an ankle bracelet? Could he run against Biden from a prison cell? Could the American presidency become the ultimate get-out-of-jail card? Today’s jokey speculation has a habit of becoming tomorrow’s headline news.

 
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It sounds as if tomorrow (Friday) the public will start seeing a TV ad that DT's strategists have been drafting this week, in preparation for an indictment.


The commercial will be submitted for national cable placement on Friday, according to a person with direct knowledge of the plans.
The advertisement’s messages will tie in with talking points that are circulating among some of Mr. Trump’s most ardent defenders on Capitol Hill.
They will portray the indictment as a partisan plot from President Biden’s Justice Department.

These allies also plan to insinuate — with no evidence — that the Justice Department has timed this indictment to distract from House Republicans’ investigations into Mr. Biden and his family’s business affairs.

 
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I think he kept documents that he thought he might be able to use in some way.

I don't think he kept them as souvenirs.
I believe that he intended to betray his country for financial gain and has committed death-penalty-eligible federal crimes.
 
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“As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t,” Trump says, according to the transcript.


“Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this,” Trump says at another point. "This was done by the military and given to me.”

CNN obtained the transcript of a portion of the meeting where Trump is discussing a classified Pentagon document about attacking Iran. In the audio recording, which CNN previously reported was obtained by prosecutors, Trump says that he did not declassify the document he’s referencing, according to the transcript.

Details from the indictment have not been made public, so it unknown whether any of the seven counts refer to the recorded 2021 meeting. Still, the tape is significant because it shows that Trump had an understanding the records he had with him at Mar-a-Lago after he left the White House remained classified.


 
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"They're not coming after me, they're coming after you (even though you as average citizen have no access to classified documents)" lolol
 
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Ironically the, "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you" comment implies that he is above the law. Any other citizen that has done what he has would be in jail by now. He has been handled with kit gloves. LE is making absolutely sure they have their ducks in a row. They know that their evidence has to be super solid.
*kid gloves. <blush> (too late to edit)
 
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There are signs that the case may be heard by Judge Aileen Cannon (a DT appointee).


ABC News was provided a case number that was part of the written summons and according to the federal court filing system PACER, that case number matches a docket under "Judge AMC." Cannon's full name is Aileen Mercedes Cannon.

In one instance, Cannon restricted the FBI from using the seized classified documents as part of their ongoing probe until she completed her review. Cannon's order was ultimately thrown out in its entirety by an 11th Circuit Court of appeals panel, which found she overstepped in exercising her jurisdiction in the probe.

 
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There are signs that the case may be heard by Judge Aileen Cannon (a DT appointee).


ABC News was provided a case number that was part of the written summons and according to the federal court filing system PACER, that case number matches a docket under "Judge AMC." Cannon's full name is Aileen Mercedes Cannon.

In one instance, Cannon restricted the FBI from using the seized classified documents as part of their ongoing probe until she completed her review. Cannon's order was ultimately thrown out in its entirety by an 11th Circuit Court of appeals panel, which found she overstepped in exercising her jurisdiction in the probe.

I would imagine the government will file a motion to get another judge to hear this case. This judge is so biased towards Trump she was basically reprimanded. WTH????
 
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I would imagine the government will file a motion to get another judge to hear this case. This judge is so biased towards Trump she was basically reprimanded. WTH????

Yes, seems wrong to schedule the case with her.

From what I can see, there are 14 judges who are more senior than Aileen Cannon.

It would seem appropriate for a more senior judge to hear a potential Espionage case of a former president. A truly historical case. Instead of a relative newbie. I wonder if the rest of the judges don't want to touch this case with a 10-foot pole.

 
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The worst part of this indictment (for normal people) is it is going to be Trump 24/7 on every news channel, regular channels and cable--- I watch MSNBC most often but I am tired of hearing the same ol same ol over and over and tired of seeing Trump's face and what he has to say about the indictment "witch hunt, hoax, weaponization", yawn. Thank goodness for true crime channels like ID and Oxygen as well as other channels I can watch like the Smithsonian!
 
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Jack Smith's resume ....

- prosecutor at the Manhattan district attorney’s office
- head of criminal litigation at U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York
- war crimes prosecutor at the International Criminal Court (2008)
- Public Integrity Section of the Justice Department (2010)
- first assistant U.S. attorney and acting U.S. attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee (2015-2017)
- head of litigation for the Hospital Corporation of America
- The Hague to investigate war crimes committed in Kosovo (2018-2021) - sent two men to prison for sharing sensitive information taken from his office and indicted Kosovo’s president on war crimes charges


“If I were the sort of person who could be cowed … I would find another line of work” - Jack Smith


 
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Josh Dawsey
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Trump says on Truth Social John Rowley and Jim Trusty will be leaving his legal team, and he'll now be represented by New York lawyer Todd Blanche "and a firm to be named later."


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Trump might not have liked the not going to hide in Scotland bit that Mr Trusty said.

Or maybe they wanted to be paid upfront...
 
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