FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *4 Guilty* #26

[Going Rogue]

Well there have been cases where a whole bunch of coincidences, bundled together have secured a guilty verdict. I think with WA, it's close. Her little trip down Trescott and subsequent deception about it really strengthens the circumstantial case against her.

But yeah it's not enough. Not quite. I think SY's testimony bolsters an argument for accessory. But overall the State are missing one little puzzle piece, a text or a poorly timed phone call. e.g if WA was texting KM on the day of the murder, on it's own it's inconsequential and potentially arguable. But you add it with all the other circumstantial evidence it means a lot.

You have WA texting a co-conspirator on the day of the murder, someone she said she never contacted via phone and definitely did not contact her on the day of the murder. That's enough. Obviously this is hypothetical, as we don't know she did that. My laboured point - the State don't need much more evidence, they're very close.

If they had any proof of any digital communication between Wendi and Katie on the day of the murder it would have been game over for Wendi a long time ago.

 

[Going Rogue]

So it may be a coincidence she drove by the crime scene, but what about lying that she couldn';t even turn onto Trescott, after admitting twice she did. We know the roadblock was NOT where Trescott starts off of Centerville.
What about that? How do you defend that?

Also I asked earlier- do we know who took the beach photo and was it stated it was on Katies phone or do we not know that? That makes a BIG difference

As far as the inconsistent testimony re the Truscott turn, you and I discussed this so many times

Not sure who took the photo, and not sure why its relevant?

 

[Zedzded]

To give up Wendi, she have to admit guilt which she’d never do. Both Donna and Charlie will likely go to their grave insisting they are innocent. They both probably never took accountability for any past wrongdoings and wont for their plot to murder Dan.

Yup good point.

 

[Zedzded]

As far as the inconsistent testimony re the Truscott turn, you and I discussed this so many times

Yup lets not go there

 

[apeXperience]

Katherine Magbanua, Charles Adelson, and Luis Rivera are all due at Leon County Jail today August 13, 2025.

• A new set of pretty mugshots will avail from Leon County Jail’s intake
• Albeit Sigfredo Garcia is also listed as Cat. A witness by the State, an order to transport has not been requested for him. He is not expected to testify.

Congratulation, Katherine Magbanua!

• It is hoped for the better course of justice that Katherine Magbanua’s disposition would ameliorate from the vague previous proffers since her conviction appeal has been formally rejected by the Florida District Court of Appeal
• On July 12, 2025, Judge Wheeler (the Judge who officiated at Leon County), along with Bilbrey and Thomas JJ, who concur, affirmed Katherine Magbanua’s conviction
• On July 30, 2025, all reviews under Fla. App. P. 9.330 or 9.331 have been completed, and Chief Judge Osterhaus made the disposition final (see attached)

 

[IQuestion]

If they had any proof of any digital communication between Wendi and Katie on the day of the murder it would have been game over for Wendi a long time ago.

GORO, BBM above, Interesting choice of words "digital communication between Wendi and Katie on the day of the murder."? What if they had communication before, during or after the "first attempt/ surveilling DM: in June 2014?" I listened to the Det Isom interview
(at least 19 times) amazed the number of phone calls WA made between 8am and 12:30pm. It just struck me as extremely manic. There has to be a reason WA is a named unindicted co-conspirator. In white collar crimes (or conspiracies) it always begins with the "lower level involvement individuals" and LE/prosecutors keep working their way up the rungs of the conspiracies until they get to the person at the top. Aren't there still a lot of sealed documents? Sometimes a signal/confirmation/communication could be an unanswered phone call to a burner phone. Right?
Even WA said, "He didn't return my phone call and I thought that was weird." Is failure to answer a call considered a form of digital communication? or confirmation? Has anyone ever heard, "If The Phone Doesn't Ring, It's Me" Or, "I'll only call you if something doesn't happen?" Good night Sleuths...

 

[Knitpicker]

Katherine Magbanua, Charles Adelson, and Luis Rivera are all due at Leon County Jail today August 13, 2025.

Theres lots of talk from some attorneys that Charlie won’t take the stand bc his appeal would be in jeopardy.
What can we conclude? She’s going with a different story? Or he could plead the 5th while he is in Florida? Maybe one last time seeing momma.

 

[Knitpicker]

As far as the inconsistent testimony re the Truscott turn, you and I discussed this so many times

Not sure who took the photo, and not sure why its relevant?

Well, we know it was Father’s Day. And Wendi was probably hanging out with her father-I’d think earlier in the day bc most people don’t drink alcoholic mixed drinks in the morning.
Katies kids were with their dad.
So how would she be meeting up with Katie? Time, location, etc.
Maybe I’m one of the few who is thinking she’s had more contact with KM since meeting her at Yardbird 3 months prior

 

[Knitpicker]

As far as the inconsistent testimony re the Truscott turn, you and I discussed this so many times

Not sure who took the photo, and not sure why its relevant?

Oh I thought it was about your thoughts that Trescott isn’t a shortcut, not about the crime tape
BTW I listened to all of JL’s testimony on the stand again and he DOES say that Trescott is a shortcut.’DId WA put that in his mind or does he really believe this?

 

[Zedzded]

Maybe I’m one of the few who is thinking she’s had more contact with KM since meeting her at Yardbird 3 months prior

I've mused over that. It would be nice if that were the case. I kinda feel like WA figured out early on that CA was happy to do her dirty work for her with little effort on her part. I think he probably enjoyed the fact he was in charge, in control, the less involvement his baby sister had the better. And that suited her fine.

i think if she had texted and called KM on the day of the murder and LE had that info she would have been arrested long ago. Perhaps that was why she was so comfortable telling JL, SY and law enforcement all about CA and hitmen. She had no reason to fear he would drop her in it, because he had nothing on her.

 

[Knitpicker]

I've mused over that. It would be nice if that were the case. I kinda feel like WA figured out early on that CA was happy to do her dirty work for her with little effort on her part. I think he probably enjoyed the fact he was in charge, in control, the less involvement his baby sister had the better. And that suited her fine.

i think if she had texted and called KM on the day of the murder and LE had that info she would have been arrested long ago. Perhaps that was why she was so comfortable telling JL, SY and law enforcement all about CA and hitmen. She had no reason to fear he would drop her in it, because he had nothing on her.

Definitely not on the day of the murder. But prior imo. Whatsapp maybe. Its just the way she answered Georgias questions about it.

 

[Going Rogue]

GORO, BBM above, Interesting choice of words "digital communication between Wendi and Katie on the day of the murder."? What if they had communication before, during or after the "first attempt/ surveilling DM: in June 2014?" I listened to the Det Isom interview
(at least 19 times) amazed the number of phone calls WA made between 8am and 12:30pm. It just struck me as extremely manic. There has to be a reason WA is a named unindicted co-conspirator. In white collar crimes (or conspiracies) it always begins with the "lower level involvement individuals" and LE/prosecutors keep working their way up the rungs of the conspiracies until they get to the person at the top. Aren't there still a lot of sealed documents? Sometimes a signal/confirmation/communication could be an unanswered phone call to a burner phone. Right?
Even WA said, "He didn't return my phone call and I thought that was weird." Is failure to answer a call considered a form of digital communication? or confirmation? Has anyone ever heard, "If The Phone Doesn't Ring, It's Me" Or, "I'll only call you if something doesn't happen?" Good night Sleuths...

Based on Wendi’s sworn testimony, she never communicated with Katie outside of the couple of times they physically met. It was made very clear by Wendi that there was never any digital communications between the two at any time. So to answer your question, yes it would be very problematic for Wendi if something is uncovered.

As far as Wendi’s designation as a ‘co-conspirator’, I have a bad enough reputation already as being a Wendi defender, on the PR Team etc., so I’m not going to post the link to the David Lat article (again) where he interviewed Georgia Cappleman after Wendi was named and gave her statement as to why Wendi was named It’s all explained in that article which I assume anyone that follows this case as closely as you do, would have read.

 

[Going Rogue]

Oh I thought it was about your thoughts that Trescott isn’t a shortcut, not about the crime tape
BTW I listened to all of JL’s testimony on the stand again and he DOES say that Trescott is a shortcut.’DId WA put that in his mind or does he really believe this?

Yes, he really believes that – you know why? Because it ‘CAN’ be considered shortcut for all the reasons I have argued for 4 plus years.

Are you aware that Mentour Lawyer also said it’s a known shortcut that he himself uses?

It’s only ‘not a shortcut’ by those that refuse to look at it objectively BECAUSE it fits the narrative that the ONLY reason she would have gone that way was because she was involved - confirmation bias. I know you have seen me argue this point MULTIPLE times with others and to be very clear, the argument of whether or not its a shortcut has NOTHING to do with the argument of why she might have been there in the first place. Another point of confusion that drives me crazy, is the argument of the ‘Trescott shortcut’ is NOT the entire route she took from her house to ABC vs. an alternate route to another liquor store. The ‘shortcut’ debate, is about a little more than a 1 mile stretch of two alternate routes – taking Trescott vs staying on Centerville. Anyone that looks at this objectively can easily understand why someone ‘could’ consider it a shortcut OR their preferred route and I’m not going o recite all the reasons why because I have beaten this topic to death in the past – even did a video on it that I know you watched—so please don’t get me started LOL

 

[Knitpicker]

Yes, he really believes that – you know why? Because it ‘CAN’ be considered shortcut for all the reasons I have argued for 4 plus years.

Are you aware that Mentour Lawyer also said it’s a known shortcut that he himself uses?

It’s only ‘not a shortcut’ by those that refuse to look at it objectively BECAUSE it fits the narrative that the ONLY reason she would have gone that way was because she was involved - confirmation bias. I know you have seen me argue this point MULTIPLE times with others and to be very clear, the argument of whether or not its a shortcut has NOTHING to do with the argument of why she might have been there in the first place. Another point of confusion that drives me crazy, is the argument of the ‘Trescott shortcut’ is NOT the entire route she took from her house to ABC vs. an alternate route to another liquor store. The ‘shortcut’ debate, is about a little more than a 1 mile stretch of two alternate routes – taking Trescott vs staying on Centerville. Anyone that looks at this objectively can easily understand why someone ‘could’ consider it a shortcut OR their preferred route and I’m not going o recite all the reasons why because I have beaten this topic to death in the past – even did a video on it that I know you watched—so please don’t get me started LOL

OK I won’t! Lol. It’s too early in the day to get worked up!
I prefer a residential scenic route on my way to work, rather than a commercial route which may get me there faster. So I get it. (If she was to go get the Bourbon and had to chose between Trescott and Betton from Centerville to ABC) Even if only saving a minute or two.
So the Q is not whether it was faster, but WHY she even passed by .

I think what confused it for many including myself, is when Georgia herself suggested it was a shortcut. I mean, Georgia can’t be wrong (at least I think she suggested it by the maps and such at trial)

No, not aware ML said anything on it

 

[Going Rogue]

OK I won’t! Lol. It’s too early in the day to get worked up!
I prefer a residential scenic route on my way to work, rather than a commercial route which may get me there faster. So I get it. (If she was to go get the Bourbon and had to chose between Trescott and Betton from Centerville to ABC) Even if only saving a minute or two.
So the Q is not whether it was faster, but WHY she even passed by .

I think what confused it for many including myself, is when Georgia herself suggested it was a shortcut. I mean, Georgia can’t be wrong (at least I think she suggested it by the maps and such at trial)

No, not aware ML said anything on it

Yes, I think many are confused at what Georgia and the state were arguing re the route to Trescott. They never argued Trescott is NOT a shortcut – rather their argument was the length of entire route Wendi traveled, because of her decision to go to ABC, was longer than had she opted to go to another liquor store near the restaurant. That is a true statement – it was longer by just slightly more than 4 miles. Another thing that drives me crazy is the way the additional 4 miles is represented in social media – a famous YouTuber keeps saying she went 40-minutes out of her way

 

[Ferpo]

Albeit Sigfredo Garcia is also listed as Cat. A witness by the State, an order to transport has not been requested for him. He is not expected to testify.

SG is currently incarcerated just over in Liberty County, less than an hour away. He could easily be brought over on the morning(s) if they want him accessible.

 

[Knitpicker]

Yes, I think many are confused at what Georgia and the state were arguing re the route to Trescott. They never argued Trescott is NOT a shortcut – rather their argument was the length of entire route Wendi traveled, because of her decision to go to ABC, was longer than had she opted to go to another liquor store near the restaurant. That is a true statement – it was longer by just slightly more than 4 miles. Another thing that drives me crazy is the way the additional 4 miles is represented in social media – a famous YouTuber keeps saying she went 40-minutes out of her way

I know who you mean. This person said it again on “their” last live.
Yes I wasn’t sure about the entire route vs short cut.
Your brain is better than mine. It all went downhill after covid
“They” Said 40 minutes out of the way! Also I caught a couple of errors but didn’t write it down so I dont remember the others. No idea where ‘they” got 40 minutes. Crazy
I think “they” meant how long it takes to do the entire loop from her house down south and back up again. 20 min down 20 up. Give or take a few minutes in either direction,

 

[IQuestion]

Based on Wendi’s sworn testimony, she never communicated with Katie outside of the couple of times they physically met. It was made very clear by Wendi that there was never any digital communications between the two at any time. So to answer your question, yes it would be very problematic for Wendi if something is uncovered.

As far as Wendi’s designation as a ‘co-conspirator’, I have a bad enough reputation already as being a Wendi defender, on the PR Team etc., so I’m not going to post the link to the David Lat article (again) where he interviewed Georgia Cappleman after Wendi was named and gave her statement as to why Wendi was named It’s all explained in that article which I assume anyone that follows this case as closely as you do, would have read.

Do you have a link to that article/interview? So many articles, by brain is soaked and dripping from a deluge of articles. I am pointing out "non-communication" is in itself can be a form of communication. Something as simple as, "I won't call if everything is going as planned."
Lots of "mixed messages" and just trying to figure them out. Example: "I think it is abusive to suggest someone has mental illness." was a response to a GC question in court. Yet, WA sends an email to SY asking paraphrasing here, "What if crazy brother, Charlie is involved in Danny's murder?" as opposed to saying/asking, "My brother Charlie may be involved, isn't that crazy?"
PS, Florida cases are just easier to follow.

 

[Wishbone]

Yes, I think many are confused at what Georgia and the state were arguing re the route to Trescott. They never argued Trescott is NOT a shortcut – rather their argument was the length of entire route Wendi traveled, because of her decision to go to ABC, was longer than had she opted to go to another liquor store near the restaurant. That is a true statement – it was longer by just slightly more than 4 miles. Another thing that drives me crazy is the way the additional 4 miles is represented in social media – a famous YouTuber keeps saying she went 40-minutes out of her way

Regardless of the distance it is curious that she did not even check up on the status of her children since there was the possibility they may not have gone to daycare and could be at the house. IMO she just reeks of guilt and that trip was nothing more than to see for herself that the job was done.

 

[Going Rogue]

Do you have a link to that article/interview? So many articles, by brain is soaked and dripping from a deluge of articles. I am pointing out "non-communication" is in itself can be a form of communication. Something as simple as, "I won't call if everything is going as planned."
Lots of "mixed messages" and just trying to figure them out. Example: "I think it is abusive to suggest someone has mental illness." was a response to a GC question in court. Yet, WA sends an email to SY asking paraphrasing here, "What if crazy brother, Charlie is involved in Danny's murder?" as opposed to saying/asking, "My brother Charlie may be involved, isn't that crazy?"
PS, Florida cases are just easier to follow.

Non communication is not a form of communication, but I understand the theory you outline – a better argument would have been the use of a burner phone as suggested by many . We can speculate all day long about whether or not Wendi and Katie communicated outside of the two times they met and how they may have done it. All I go by is verifiable facts / evidence – and there is nothing to support or suggest they communicated other than the two time they met. There is no record of any digital communication and Wendi’s phone was imaged and Katie even testified they never spoke outside their two meetings. Not saying that because Katie said it its true, but I’m amazed at how many people believe theories that are based on pure speculation – and I’m not accusing you of that, but it’s a common theme in this case and in true crime in general.

Here is the Lat article:

The Dan Markel Case: Justice Delayed, Again - by David Lat