FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *4 Guilty* #26

[Luna20]

Harvey Adelson reminds me of "Walter," one of ventriloquist Jeff Dunham's dummies.


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He reminds me of Donna. They are making the same expressions.

 

[Luna20]

Sad seeing RA say that the last time he spoke to his mother was when she said "I've got to go" when he brought up the arrest of the shooters who killed Dan. RA looked really upset. What a terrible position to be in. JMO.

He is better off without them in his life. They are toxic. Has anything been said about when he cut them off?

 

[Tricia]

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[Zedzded]

WA caught out on a big lie. She stated she was told in the police car DM had been shot. Then acted all surprised when told for the second time in the LE interview.

 

[floridafreshsqueez]

I know the Tallahassee legal circles aren't very big, but I guess it never occurred to me that she had known DM and/or WA before the murder.

Well I’m not certain GK had contact or knew of either of them. While it’s possible GK had seen her around, there are 4 main buildings comprising the law school campus and they span about 2 blocks which doesn’t seem small enough to me that you would know everyone eventually. I’ve never been there though, nor have I been to law school… lol

Wendi was there as a “visiting” clinical professor (ie a contract) while Dan had joined the faculty in 2005, was tenured in 2010, then made full professor in 2012, he was a D'Alemberte Professor which is a high honor recognizing the recipient’s contributions to the law school. Based on this, I think it’s more likely she may have known of Dan.

 

[kaen]

I think two jurors lost loved ones (family or friends) to murder. I am sure that Rob's description of callous Donna is off-putting to them.

 

[clearskies1]

He is better off without them in his life. They are toxic. Has anything been said about when he cut them off?

I wasn't saying that he is not better off without them. It is sad to see him that upset talking about it.

 

[Luna20]

I wasn't saying that he is not better off without them. It is sad to see him that upset talking about it.

Yes, I’m in agreement with you. Is he the oldest?

 

[floridafreshsqueez]

WA caught out on a big lie. She stated she was told in the police car DM had been shot. Then acted all surprised when told for the second time in the LE interview.

It’s wild more people aren’t pointing this out right now, I literally stopped my stream to send an enraged vm to my lawyer bestie

I feel like Wendi is far too comfortable with her derivative immunity. She seems to inadvertently freestyle it in moments of stress without realizing she’s directly contradicting existing evidence. I thought the one exception to derivative immunity was perjury, so…will there be any follow up on this? Hello, hello Georgia?

Something about GK rattles Wendi and they both know it. I keep thinking with each trial Wendi will hold it together…somehow we keep getting different renditions of the same events, or is it me and my bias?

 

[IQuestion]

“You can act, I’ve seen you do it” (DA to WA)

Was that intentionally passive aggressive? Sounds like she was letting WA know that she didn’t fool her in previous situations that WA chose to act when it was to her advantage. Just like Donna does.

Wendi was very robotic and guarded today. I didn’t see all of it. Were there any bombshells?

LUNA20 So glad you asked. From my observations, there were so many. WA claimed Det Isom had called her to ask about getting "the boy's DNA" (I could really go down a rabbit hole with that!)
WA now says TV guys came out because she had "linear lines" on her TV. Uh what?! (For the last trials it was a broken screen caused by her sons.) HA filled out the repair form request.
The driving route answer was explained differently than the other 3 different explanations.
WA in responding to GC about who made a decision, "Me. I am an adult, right?"
WA has dropped the arrogance she had in past court appearances.
The big "Oh Donna_moment" came after JF had claimed DA was ignorant of the "finality of the relocation decision" because her daughter kept it a secret and intentionally misled Donna. Thusly the reason DA was courageously continuing her strategies to get her grandchildren to South Fl even after it was dismissed with prejudice at WA's request.. Go figure. (Wait for it........here it comes!!) GC pulls up a copy of an e-mail DA sent to the "Klingerman's" (HA/DA pals) indicating an appeal of the decision was impossible, within 5 days of the court action. IE...Donna knew but apparently claimed to JF she didn't!! (Ya' know one of those M.Descalzo moments? I remember a VK was a licensed atty in FL..not for sure ) Go figure!!
You just had to see the faces of DA's attys....that momentary flash of "Our client didn't tell us the truth."
That is when I saw it, total exhaustion from WA. No fight left, no want of satisfaction, a "mea culpa" acceptance of blame, even when proven not to be true. She is tired....hopefully, she will never have to cross paths with her controlling mother again. If she does, let it be on her terms, not Donna's.

 

[ch_13]

WA caught out on a big lie. She stated she was told in the police car DM had been shot. Then acted all surprised when told for the second time in the LE interview.

I don't want to defend Wendi, but I think she probably just forgot when she was told that Dan was shot. Or it's possible that in the police car they said something like "Dan's been injured," but they didn't tell her the extent of the injuries until she got into the interrogation room.

I just don't think she would have been dumb enough to be told Dan was shot in the squad car and then hear it a second time a half-hour later and put on a big fake act. That would have been a huge red flag to Isom right off the bat.


Edit - I just rewatched the footage of WA's initial interview. In the clip below, at 6:10 Isom tells her that there was a shooting at the home and Wendi just nods her head, as if she was already aware. It's not until 6:33 when Isom says that Danny isn't going to survive do we get the theatrical performance.

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[Zedzded]

I don't want to defend Wendi, but I think she probably just forgot when she was told that Dan was shot. Or it's possible that in the police car they said something like "Dan's been injured," but they didn't tell her the extent of the injuries until she got into the interrogation room.

I just don't think she would have been dumb enough to be told Dan was shot in the squad car and then hear it a second time a half-hour later and put on a big fake act. That would have been a huge red flag to Isom right off the bat.

Yeah possibly. It's just such an important moment in your life. I'd have thought she would remember every moment of that day. i.e she's told what happened in the car, is hysterical, police officers are trying to calm her down, she's hyperventilating, asking what happened, where, when, are the kids OK etc etc

It's plausible she got confused about what shoes she was warning, but not when she was told about Dan getting shot.

 

[ch_13]

Yeah possibly. It's just such an important moment in your life. I'd have thought she would remember every moment of that day. i.e she's told what happened in the car, is hysterical, police officers are trying to calm her down, she's hyperventilating, asking what happened, where, when, are the kids OK etc etc

It's plausible she got confused about what shoes she was warning, but not when she was told about Dan getting shot.

I edited my post. If you look at the interview, I think she was told earlier that there was a shooting / Danny was injured. The acting job she does comes after she's told that Danny won't make it. See the clip above.

 

[Zedzded]

I edited my post. If you look at the interview, I think she was told earlier that there was a shooting / Danny was injured. The acting job she does comes after she's told that Danny won't make it. See the clip above.

So when do we think she was first told Dan was shot?

 

[clearskies1]

Yes, I’m in agreement with you. Is he the oldest?

Yes, he's the oldest. He said he's three years older than Charlie.

 

[ch_13]

So when do we think she was first told Dan was shot?

After watching that bit of the interview, I think she was told that something happened at the house but the kids were safe. That's just from the way she nods her head when Isom starts talking, like it's stuff she's been made aware of.

Whether they told her Dan was shot or not, I don't know. They may have just said that someone took a potshot at the home. In either case, they didn't make her aware of the seriousness of his injuries until the interview. (And Donna is wrong, she's not a very good actress.)

 

[iamshadow21]

He is better off without them in his life. They are toxic. Has anything been said about when he cut them off?

I don't know when he completely severed contact, but I know the estrangement began because of love.

He loved someone, they pressured him to break it off and marry a Jewish girl. After intially complying, he broke off that second relationship and returned to the woman he loved. They've been together ever since.

MOO

 

[Knitpicker]

Yeah possibly. It's just such an important moment in your life. I'd have thought she would remember every moment of that day. i.e she's told what happened in the car, is hysterical, police officers are trying to calm her down, she's hyperventilating, asking what happened, where, when, are the kids OK etc etc

It's plausible she got confused about what shoes she was warning, but not when she was told about Dan getting shot.

Isom told her there was something that happened that involved her ex or something like that), and her kids were OK.
He never told her (the car) that he was shot.
Which makes it even more strange when she said in the station “I thought in the car you thought I may be a suspect” (not exact words but the gist)

 

[Luna20]

LUNA20 So glad you asked. From my observations, there were so many. WA claimed Det Isom had called her to ask about getting "the boy's DNA" (I could really go down a rabbit hole with that!)
WA now says TV guys came out because she had "linear lines" on her TV. Uh what?! (For the last trials it was a broken screen caused by her sons.) HA filled out the repair form request.
The driving route answer was explained differently than the other 3 different explanations.
WA in responding to GC about who made a decision, "Me. I am an adult, right?"
WA has dropped the arrogance she had in past court appearances.
The big "Oh Donna_moment" came after JF had claimed DA was ignorant of the "finality of the relocation decision" because her daughter kept it a secret and intentionally misled Donna. Thusly the reason DA was courageously continuing her strategies to get her grandchildren to South Fl even after it was dismissed with prejudice at WA's request.. Go figure. (Wait for it........here it comes!!) GC pulls up a copy of an e-mail DA sent to the "Klingerman's" (HA/DA pals) indicating an appeal of the decision was impossible, within 5 days of the court action. IE...Donna knew but apparently claimed to JF she didn't!! (Ya' know one of those M.Descalzo moments? I remember a VK was a licensed atty in FL..not for sure ) Go figure!!
You just had to see the faces of DA's attys....that momentary flash of "Our client didn't tell us the truth."
That is when I saw it, total exhaustion from WA. No fight left, no want of satisfaction, a "mea culpa" acceptance of blame, even when proven not to be true. She is tired....hopefully, she will never have to cross paths with her controlling mother again. If she does, let it be on her terms, not Donna's.

Thank you for the juicy details @IQuestion! I enjoy your straightforward post. Now they know that DA lies to everyone about everything.

I wonder why the Klingerman’s were being kept up to date. Are they nowhere to be found now or will they testify?

 

[StarryStarryNight]

It’s wild more people aren’t pointing this out right now, I literally stopped my stream to send an enraged vm to my lawyer bestie

I feel like Wendi is far too comfortable with her derivative immunity. She seems to inadvertently freestyle it in moments of stress without realizing she’s directly contradicting existing evidence. I thought the one exception to derivative immunity was perjury, so…will there be any follow up on this? Hello, hello Georgia?

Something about GK rattles Wendi and they both know it. I keep thinking with each trial Wendi will hold it together…somehow we keep getting different renditions of the same events, or is it me and my bias?

I noted this too at the time.
If she’s caught lying, is her immunity voided?