FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *5 Guilty* #28

[DustysMom]

Such a common sense observation that I think is easy to overlook because we've all been caught up in the Wendi is the Evil Mastermind psyop by 'Captain Indicators' (LOL). That she knew is near certain in my mind as well.

JMO

Imagine what’s going on inside her head once she gets to Miami after the funeral…Ahhhhh - so good to be back at the high rise …no more Jibbers to consult with on every detail of the kiddos lives. Mom’s already signed em up for school and sports so I can start looking for a rich, Jewish doctor with a yacht! Mmmm… maybe I’ll go buy some bikinis. Couple weeks later, CA takes her out for sushi and she finds out KM brokered the deal - SPLAT!
Obviously IMO only

 

[jumpinjack]

Most of the evidence portraying Wendi as “disordered, dysfunctional, unstable, drinking heavily, and over-medicating” comes from Jeff Lacasse. I know Jeff referenced statements Dan made about Wendi being deceitful and a liar etc.... and Wendi herself testified that Dan was telling their coworkers she was mentally unstable.

It seem obvious there are definitely serious issues within the family, and I’m not excluding Wendi – there appear to be real problems there. However, I’m not convinced by some of Jeff’s more extreme claims, like “she drinks her dinner most nights.” If her drinking had truly been that severe, I believe we would have seen Dan file a motion about it. She wouldn’t have been able to hide that level of alcohol abuse from him, and if it was as bad as Jeff portrayed, the children would have been endangered. No way Dan would have stayed silent.

Obviously it’s possible she developed some of those issues after the divorce, but I’m starting to question the reliability of certain things we learned from Jeff about Wendi. I’ve pointed out other examples where Jeff seems to add details or exaggerate, so I now wonder whether some of his statements about her aren’t exaggerated as well.

I thought Jeff said Danny did make claims in court documents about Wendi's drinking. Unless I'm misinterpreting his statement at the 1:57:10 mark here:

 

[Zedzded]

I thought Jeff said Danny did make claims in court documents about Wendi's drinking. Unless I'm misinterpreting his statement at the 1:57:10 mark here
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No thats right. "WA was an alcoholic when he was with her. She drank her dinner most nights."

I wonder with WA if she had been pushed her whole life to achieve and she was thinking once she graduated law school and got work as a lawyer that would bring this enourmous sense of achievment, relief almost, she'd made it. But it didnt, she was left feeling empty, broken and dead inside, ultimately finding solace with alcohol.

You get this with a lot of athletes, they spend their whole lives chasing this gold medal or some other sporting achievement. They get there, but it does not fill their cup like they thought it would. You need to be happy and positive during the journey, not thinking and hoping that happiness waits at the end of the journey.

I wonder also if Dan really exacerbated WA's mental health issues. They met probably as things for her started to unravel. Realising that working as a lawyer didn't fix all her problems and issues that had been pushed to the back of her mind as she chased her dream of becoming a lawyer suddenly came rushing to the forefront.

And there’s Dan, loving his career, coping beautifully with the hard work and long hours, admired by colleagues, peers, and students and in demand, a high achiever who went to Harvard, juxtaposed against WA, failing at all those things. I can understand how WA in a fractured state of mind, at her most insecure, grew to hate this man. He was everything she was not including being a good parent.

 

[Zedzded]

Couple weeks later, CA takes her out for sushi and she finds out KM brokered the deal - SPLAT!

Why would that freak her out?

Do you think she realised that CA's "foolproof" plan wasn't as foolproof as he had made out?

There's more information to the dinner that we don't know about. GC is a highly experienced trial attorney, she is not going to continually ask useless questions about things that have little relevance and/or little consequence.

If WA and CA communicated that they were going for a celebration dinner and GC was privy to this communication, so what. It could be anything. WA could say it was a celebration that she was back in Miami, celebration of a new apartment, new job, new car, new partner. And her being sick, again, so what? People get sick all the time.

 

[Weki]

Imagine what’s going on inside her head once she gets to Miami after the funeral…Ahhhhh - so good to be back at the high rise …no more Jibbers to consult with on every detail of the kiddos lives. Mom’s already signed em up for school and sports so I can start looking for a rich, Jewish doctor with a yacht! Mmmm… maybe I’ll go buy some bikinis. Couple weeks later, CA takes her out for sushi and she finds out KM brokered the deal - SPLAT!
Obviously IMO only

Yeah, I think she knew all along but was insulated from the planning. But it could easily be argued a diff way. What you describe is certainly another probable scenario! The barfing at the sushi place indicates she just found out something shocking, which goes against the theory that she knew and conspired all along. Why is she throwing up if she was in on it all along?That’s why I keep saying reasonable doubt all over the place when it comes to Wendi - hence, no charges.

JMO

 

[Zedzded]

Why is she throwing up if she was in on it all along?

She was insulated from the plans, but does not escape being charged if she only found out at the celebration dinner that CA was behind the killing. She then went on to deny in multiple trials that he was involved. That easily satisfies the 2 elements for Accessory After.

 

[Zedzded]

I suspect the vomiting was due to CA telling WA that the Prius had been identified.

 

[Going Rogue]

Such a common sense observation that I think is easy to overlook because we've all been caught up in the Wendi is the Evil Mastermind psyop by 'Captain Indicators' (LOL). That she knew is near certain in my mind as well.

JMO

LOL - I think we found the perfect nickname…. I’ll share the credit with you

 

[DustysMom]

Why would that freak her out?

Do you think she realised that CA's "foolproof" plan wasn't as foolproof as he had made out?

There's more information to the dinner that we don't know about. GC is a highly experienced trial attorney, she is not going to continually ask useless questions about things that have little relevance and/or little consequence.

If WA and CA communicated that they were going for a celebration dinner and GC was privy to this communication, so what. It could be anything. WA could say it was a celebration that she was back in Miami, celebration of a new apartment, new job, new car, new partner. And her being sick, again, so what? People get sick all the time.

SPLAT! Meant she spontaneously threw up when she realized that CA hired bozos who could be easily traced back to CA - and the rest of the A’s, including her.

I M O

I was just being snarky - didn’t mean for anyone to take my musings too seriously.

 

[DustysMom]

I suspect the vomiting was due to CA telling WA that the Prius had been identified.

Had it ?
Was the Prius IDd as the type of car leaving the scene - or the actual license plate number of the specific car? I still can’t believe LR put his own name and address on the car rental agreement.

 

[Knitpicker]

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No thats right. "WA was an alcoholic when he was with her. She drank her dinner most nights."

I wonder with WA if she had been pushed her whole life to achieve and she was thinking once she graduated law school and got work as a lawyer that would bring this enourmous sense of achievment, relief almost, she'd made it. But it didnt, she was left feeling empty, broken and dead inside, ultimately finding solace with alcohol.

You get this with a lot of athletes, they spend their whole lives chasing this gold medal or some other sporting achievement. They get there, but it does not fill their cup like they thought it would. You need to be happy and positive during the journey, not thinking and hoping that happiness waits at the end of the journey.

I wonder also if Dan really exacerbated WA's mental health issues. They met probably as things for her started to unravel. Realising that working as a lawyer didn't fix all her problems and issues that had been pushed to the back of her mind as she chased her dream of becoming a lawyer suddenly came rushing to the forefront.

And there’s Dan, loving his career, coping beautifully with the hard work and long hours, admired by colleagues, peers, and students and in demand, a high achiever who went to Harvard, juxtaposed against WA, failing at all those things. I can understand how WA in a fractured state of mind, at her most insecure, grew to hate this man. He was everything she was not including being a good parent.

The hatred of Donna towards Dan -apparent in one of those emails stating that he was basically a lazy law professor- vs his high paying, high potential position in DC when Wendi met him. It backfired for Donna. Her goal was a millionaire for her daughter not a college professor.

I have a different opinion of her drinking. I am guessing (not facts according to any evidence) that it left her uninhibited to pursue her passions so to speak. She can become a rebel - seek after her passions as opposed to having to have the best grades. After so many years of having to be the “perfect daughter”.

An interesting study— Donna wanting the “perfect” rich Jewish husband, and kids—-Wendi trying that- with a man who she lacked passion for-during the most physically active time in a woman’s life. Whether her prowess was control of men, or her repressed desires- who knows.

Alcohol frees the inhibitions. Thats what I was getting at. It’s really surprising she had 1 child let alone 2. And the second so fast. Was she just pretending in every aspect? Her husband, her kids?

Edit. DM was 7 yrs older than Wendi and ready for a family.
Was she just pacifying him and her mother?
Alcohol may have been the means to set her free from doing what everyone else wanted of her.

 

[Going Rogue]

I thought Jeff said Danny did make claims in court documents about Wendi's drinking. Unless I'm misinterpreting his statement at the 1:57:10 mark here:

Yes, I think you misinterpreted it, but I can see how... thanks for the timestamp

Jeff’s quote ~ “Danny said this in court documents actually, she’s a very manipulative person a pathological liar. Wendi was an alcoholic when I was with her, she drank her dinner most her nights…”

The “manipulative person and pathological liar” was what Jeff alleged Dan wrote in court docs. The alcoholic claim and drinking her dinner most nights was Jeff’s claim … the ‘I” in the last sentence was ‘Jeff’ not ‘Dan”

 

[Knitpicker]

Had it ?
Was the Prius IDd as the type of car leaving the scene - or the actual license plate number of the specific car? I still can’t believe LR put his own name and address on the car rental agreement.

The neighbor said he believed the car was a Prius

 

[jumpinjack]

Yes, I think you misinterpreted it, but I can see how... thanks for the timestamp

Jeff’s quote ~ “Danny said this in court documents actually, she’s a very manipulative person a pathological liar. Wendi was an alcoholic when I was with her, she drank her dinner most her nights…”

The “manipulative person and pathological liar” was what Jeff alleged Dan wrote in court docs. The alcoholic claim and drinking her dinner most nights was Jeff’s claim … the ‘I” in the last sentence was ‘Jeff’ not ‘Dan”

I couldn't tell if he said she was an alcoholic 'while I was with her' or 'while he was with her'.

 

[Going Rogue]

I couldn't tell if he said she was an alcoholic 'while I was with her' or 'while he was with her'.

There were many parts of Jeff’s interview where he has a rather strange speech pattern because he is anticipating that handwritten notes are being taken… In the segment you referenced, the sentence flow of what Dan wrote and the segue to Jeff’s personal experience is definitely strange. I definitely understand how it can be interpreted the way you did. I still think he was not referring to Dan making the allegation she is an alcoholic that drank he dinner most nights.

 

[Zedzded]

Such a common sense observation that I think is easy to overlook because we've all been caught up in the Wendi is the Evil Mastermind psyop by 'Captain Indicators' (LOL). That she knew is near certain in my mind as well.

JMO

I don't think anyone that has knowledge of this case with any level of depth thinks that WA was the mastermind. There is no evidence to show she was the mastermind. Everything points to DA and CA being the masterminds.

CA and DA had a meeting of minds, decided killing Dan was a good idea and then floated the idea to WA who agreed. CA and DA then plotted and planned the murder giving WA minimal information relating to the plans, cognisant of what a trainwreck she was.

 

[Zedzded]

Had it ?
Was the Prius IDd as the type of car leaving the scene - or the actual license plate number of the specific car? I still can’t believe LR put his own name and address on the car rental agreement.

The neighbour said he thought it was a Prius. The police then captured the Prius on CCTV with rego 5 days after the shooting. WA did say the dinner was 3 weeks after, but this could be a lie to put distance between the murder and her "celebration" dinner. Because her story was she was house bound for 3 weeks, too scared to leave the house. Her first time she stepped out the house was when CA took her for dinner. Would love to see the crediot card receipts and the dates to see if if ties in with thre 5 day reveklation of the Prius.

 

[DustysMom]

The neighbour said he thought it was a Prius. The police then captured the Prius on CCTV with rego 5 days after the shooting. WA did say the dinner was 3 weeks after, but this could be a lie to put distance between the murder and her "celebration" dinner. Because her story was she was house bound for 3 weeks, too scared to leave the house. Her first time she stepped out the house was when CA took her for dinner. Would love to see the crediot card receipts and the dates to see if if ties in with thre 5 day reveklation of the Prius.

Agree with you and wonder if the prosecution has the credit card receipt or other proof of the date/time of that dinner.

IMO
If I was privy to a murder plot, let it play out, benefited from the death … and then found out the plotters hired someone known to all 3 of us to broker the deal - and with HER HUSBAND, I would freak out (splat) and go into self survival mode. Shut up, lawyer up and keep my passport handy.

 

[Zedzded]

Agree with you and wonder if the prosecution has the credit card receipt or other proof of the date/time of that dinner.

IMO
If I was privy to a murder plot, let it play out, benefited from the death … and then found out the plotters hired someone known to all 3 of us to broker the deal - and with HER HUSBAND, I would freak out (splat) and go into self survival mode. Shut up, lawyer up and keep my passport handy.

Yeah I bet CA was "don't worry sis, I'll handle this. You won't have to lift a finger. And there's no way this can be tied back to us."

Then she finds out he's hired his girlfriends ex as the hitman. Cos that's really going to work out well!

 

[Zedzded]

"Nice was good when it lasted. See you at 4:30pm today at my house at 4:30pm, then."
If she knew she would see him at 4:30 pm...why did she have to drive by his house at 12.35 pm?????

I don't understand?

She was driving down Trescott to get to the liquor store not to see him.