FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #11

[Shin Masamura]

Jennifer was self conscious ,made safe phone and carry pepper spray as we know it was not enough.
usually stalkers and serial killers will not break into a home if other people live there.
They are looking for women living alone.
If the keys were replaced by new keys , it wouldn't be so easy to get in.
Maybe he knew someone who rent the apt before Jennifer moved in, maybe he stayed there as a guest for few days and There was master key machine in the office.
A worker in the complex , an office worker, a delivery man,all could have taken the key and made a copy.

I believe that that the complex was fairly new under that time , but yes the possibility of multiple keys is a factor

 

[marable]

The way that I understand it , the Mosaic was converted from apartments previously known as the Tradition I believe to condo's....They weren't new, not sure how long the Tradition had been there.....She had only lived there for two months when she disappeared and since there was work continuing on her condo she had not had her locks changed yet.....No telling how many people had keys to her condo....Drew even mentioned in an interview one time that the Mosaic made their own keys and that he saw the unsecure area where the keys were made . So , anyone could have had access to keys...

I read once that Jennifer had told family members or a friend that she was awakened one night by someone jiggling her door knob/lock....

Didn't she have a sliding door leading out to her balcony? Could someone have lifted it off the track to gain entry to her condo?

 

[rd_jfc]

The way that I understand it , the Mosaic was converted from apartments previously known as the Tradition I believe to condo's....They weren't new, not sure how long the Tradition had been there.....She had only lived there for two months when she disappeared and since there was work continuing on her condo she had not had her locks changed yet.....No telling how many people had keys to her condo....Drew even mentioned in an interview one time that the Mosaic made their own keys and that he saw the unsecure area where the keys were made . So , anyone could have had access to keys...

I read once that Jennifer had told family members or a friend that she was awakened one night by someone jiggling her door knob/lock....

Didn't she have a sliding door leading out to her balcony? Could someone have lifted it off the track to gain entry to her condo?

That kind of damage would be hard to undo, wouldn't it?

When I was in a ground floor unit that was really exposed to the parking lot I put a board in the sliding track that would keep people from breaking the lock and sliding it open. Never thought about someone prying it (? if they could get leverage somewhere) up off the tracks.

 

[marable]

I had a leaking sliding door once, the repairman just lifted it out of the track.....I was shocked how easy this was done....I always keep a board in mine to , don't know how much good it would do.....

If I had been Jennifer, I think I would have waited until the work was completed before having the locks changed to but in hindsight it would just be better to change the locks twice instead of taking the chance....

 

[hec60504]

I still maintain this was someone she knew well - if somebody had broken into her house, or even come in there would some evidence left behind; even though the family had come in to her place the police would have found something. IMO, I think she either went back out that night with her BF, or ran into someone she knew the next morning; someone she trusted but who betrayed that trust.

 

[marable]

I don't think that Jennifer's condo was ever processed by OPD as they stated by the time they got to her condo it had already been contaminated by a number of Jennifer's family and friends....If that is the case then OPD does not know if it held any clues or not....Her boyfriend, Rob, was 2 hrs away in Fort Lauderdale so she could not have gone out with him Monday night....

 

[Truth Prevails]

I still maintain this was someone she knew well - if somebody had broken into her house, or even come in there would some evidence left behind; even though the family had come in to her place the police would have found something. IMO, I think she either went back out that night with her BF, or ran into someone she knew the next morning; someone she trusted but who betrayed that trust.

BBM - That's what I believe as well. Someone she knew well, someone who knew about the two phones--and maybe someone who knew she like Chinese takeout and just happened to be in the neighborhood and dropped in with some piping hot? Even if it was a little late.

 

[Myserty64]

If the perpetrator was someone Jennifer knew well (as could well be the case) where does the POI fit in?

Why is it nobody can identify the POI?

Even with 'his' face hidden by fence posts the POI has 'a look'.
Despite all, the identity of the POI remains a mystery.

Some can't even decided whether the POI is male or female.
So, once again, how does this fit in if Jennifer was abducted by someone she knew well?

Work out who parked Jennifer's car at HOTG and it's case solved.

 

[marable]

I have thought that the car was moved so that anyone driving to the Mosaic would note that her car was not there so she must not be there....Perhaps someone wanted her family/friends/OPD to think that she left for work Tuesday morning to buy time to get rid of her and to possibly go back to her apartment to check for any left evidence ....

I think the POI had a distinctive shape to his head, haircut and walk...Had this video been released within a few days of Jennifer's car being found at The HOTG instead of 17 months later , someone may have recognized him/her....

Could it have been possible that Jennifer was taken to an empty apartment, kept there a few hours while the POI drove her car to the area where she was going to be hidden out or disposed of? Perhaps the workers had to work that day and they put her into one of their vehicles until they got off work?

Statistically she knew her abductor....

 

[rd_jfc]

If the perpetrator was someone Jennifer knew well (as could well be the case) where does the POI fit in?

Why is it nobody can identify the POI?

Even with 'his' face hidden by fence posts the POI has 'a look'.
Despite all, the identity of the POI remains a mystery.

Some can't even decided whether the POI is male or female.
So, once again, how does this fit in if Jennifer was abducted by someone she knew well?

Work out who parked Jennifer's car at HOTG and it's case solved.

Is there a reason for the resistance of many people to accept what's in the pictures? The POI is dressed as an armed bike security guard. The back of the bike helmet I can sort of give people leeway on, although the curvature of that of a bike helmet is very sharp and
distinct. But the thigh holster can't be wished away. It is very large and solid along with the thigh straps. And his face is visible in picture three as he stops and turns back at the tree to check if anyone is looking at him and the car.

I just don't get how people can ignore such vital clues. I've also demonstrated a few posts ago about the UV lightening dark clothes. The police saw this themselves with their own uniforms. Yet this crucial information I found has done nothing for the investigation. I don't worry about it, I just keep the pictures posted and lots of people look at it, but I was hoping that someone would recognize the holster or that type of security guard getup. (I found one from a Fort Lauderdale area company ad and posted it, but they had already lost their license months after Jennifer disappeared.

As I often say, the face is recognizable enough that you could rule out large number sof people. It's certainly a man. And the height should be 5'9 to 5'11 based on my standing next to the tree and estimating.

 

[Truth Prevails]

If the perpetrator was someone Jennifer knew well (as could well be the case) where does the POI fit in?

Why is it nobody can identify the POI?

Even with 'his' face hidden by fence posts the POI has 'a look'.
Despite all, the identity of the POI remains a mystery.

Some can't even decided whether the POI is male or female.
So, once again, how does this fit in if Jennifer was abducted by someone she knew well?

Work out who parked Jennifer's car at HOTG and it's case solved.

I wish I could come up with even a plausible theory to answer your questions. What if less focus was put on identifying the "POI" from the surveillance video, and more put on finding what actually happened to Jennifer?

So much time and attention has been focused on that video and it always results in exactly nothing. Maybe other evidence that could be critical is being overlooked.

I have thought that the car was moved so that anyone driving to the Mosaic would note that her car was not there so she must not be there....Perhaps someone wanted her family/friends/OPD to think that she left for work Tuesday morning to buy time to get rid of her and to possibly go back to her apartment to check for any left evidence ....

I think the POI had a distinctive shape to his head, haircut and walk...Had this video been released within a few days of Jennifer's car being found at The HOTG instead of 17 months later , someone may have recognized him/her....

Could it have been possible that Jennifer was taken to an empty apartment, kept there a few hours while the POI drove her car to the area where she was going to be hidden out or disposed of? Perhaps the workers had to work that day and they put her into one of their vehicles until they got off work?

Statistically she knew her abductor....

BBM--yes, yes, yes. Indeed.

Is there a reason for the resistance of many people to accept what's in the pictures? The POI is dressed as an armed bike security guard. The back of the bike helmet I can sort of give people leeway on, although the curvature of that of a bike helmet is very sharp and
distinct. But the thigh holster can't be wished away. It is very large and solid along with the thigh straps. And his face is visible in picture three as he stops and turns back at the tree to check if anyone is looking at him and the car.

I just don't get how people can ignore such vital clues. I've also demonstrated a few posts ago about the UV lightening dark clothes. The police saw this themselves with their own uniforms. Yet this crucial information I found has done nothing for the investigation. I don't worry about it, I just keep the pictures posted and lots of people look at it, but I was hoping that someone would recognize the holster or that type of security guard getup. (I found one from a Fort Lauderdale area company ad and posted it, but they had already lost their license months after Jennifer disappeared.

As I often say, the face is recognizable enough that you could rule out large number sof people. It's certainly a man. And the height should be 5'9 to 5'11 based on my standing next to the tree and estimating.

BBM - I would love to take a look at them. I'm wondering if you have them on view where you could share a link?

 

[rd_jfc]

I wish I could come up with even a plausible theory to answer your questions. What if less focus was put on identifying the "POI" from the surveillance video, and more put on finding what actually happened to Jennifer?

So much time and attention has been focused on that video and it always results in exactly nothing. Maybe other evidence that could be critical is being overlooked.

BBM--yes, yes, yes. Indeed.

BBM - I would love to take a look at them. I'm wondering if you have them on view where you could share a link?

yes, would be glad to. It's a high result of a search on Jennifer Kesse POI Photos for example.

http://www.justiceforchandra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3033

As usual, will be glad to discuss here. Have had many discussions and have posted isolated bits in these threads through the years but has yet to gain any traction with the investigation I am sorry to say.

I don't know what else could be investigated in her disappearance outside of these pictures, but I do know that very little emphasis has been put on moving forward in investigating what is in these pictures.

Thanks for taking a look and any feedback.

 

[marable]

I agree with you RD , other than them using Bloodhounds and digging up different sites as they have done over the years, the video is the only thing left.....If it is true that OPD did not process her apartment just look at the clues it may have held, ie, possible dna in the shower, on the towel, on the carpet.....Once opportunities like her apartment was missed there is no going back...It is entirely possible that her apartment held no clues but what if it did....What if there had been a complete fingerprint in there that matched the partial fingerprint left in or on her car....

Jennifer could have been any of our daughters, how would we feel about the two inept, negligent detectives if they were on our daughters case?

I have to say RD the picture that you worked on of the POI turning and looking back at Jennifer's car in the video was the best picture of the POI that I have ever seen....I changed the colors on it and some of the colors bring him into focus better....

I can't help but believe that there are more shots of the POI that OPD did not release as they did not want to release any of it.....What possible clues could the blurry video hold that they did release?

 

[Myserty64]

I wonder how many unsolved abductions there are where there is video of the perpetrator? Well, still pictures anyway.

There is something seriously amiss with this investigation.
Having written that I clearly remember the original lead detective, Richard Ring, saying this was 'as close to a vanishing as he had seen.'

Nearly eleven years later nothing has changed.

 

[hec60504]

The FBI was called in to help determine the person's size and gender, but could only say the person was someone who was about 5'3" to 5'5". NASA also assisted in the investigation by enhancing the video to help in identifying the suspect. I think the height is what led some to believe the POI may be a female.

Is there a reason for the resistance of many people to accept what's in the pictures? The POI is dressed as an armed bike security guard. The back of the bike helmet I can sort of give people leeway on, although the curvature of that of a bike helmet is very sharp and
distinct. But the thigh holster can't be wished away. It is very large and solid along with the thigh straps. And his face is visible in picture three as he stops and turns back at the tree to check if anyone is looking at him and the car.

I just don't get how people can ignore such vital clues. I've also demonstrated a few posts ago about the UV lightening dark clothes. The police saw this themselves with their own uniforms. Yet this crucial information I found has done nothing for the investigation. I don't worry about it, I just keep the pictures posted and lots of people look at it, but I was hoping that someone would recognize the holster or that type of security guard getup. (I found one from a Fort Lauderdale area company ad and posted it, but they had already lost their license months after Jennifer disappeared.

As I often say, the face is recognizable enough that you could rule out large number sof people. It's certainly a man. And the height should be 5'9 to 5'11 based on my standing next to the tree and estimating.

 

[hec60504]

"Her ex-boyfriend, who had recently been upset and wanted to get back together with her, was also interrogated. Investigators ultimately concluded that he had nothing to do with her abduction." I wonder how they ruled him out? Alibi? It didn't say he had one.

 

[marable]

I wonder how many unsolved abductions there are where there is video of the perpetrator? Well, still pictures anyway.

There is something seriously amiss with this investigation.
Having written that I clearly remember the original lead detective, Richard Ring, saying this was 'as close to a vanishing as he had seen.'

Nearly eleven years later nothing has changed.

I have always thought that OPD or at least the two original detectives did such a lousy job of investigating what they had in the beginning that this case never had a chance of being solved..

 

[Myserty64]

I have always thought that OPD or at least the two original detectives did such a lousy job of investigating what they had in the beginning that this case never had a chance of being solved..

You nailed that marable. They never even made notes regarding the 'investigation.'

 

[hec60504]

Maybe we can do what they failed to. I know many people have tried to ID the POI - my friend who is an artist insists it's a male. I had thought female, but then looking at their shoes, well, they're pretty big for a woman 5'4" tall (that's my height, and I'm a size 8; some could be a size 7, and maybe a few a 9, but generally not much larger than that). I have always wondered if the POI wasn't an employee of an ex of Jennifer's, or an employee of one of her friends or brothers, etc. Thoughts? Let's solve this case! (I know, we stand a better chance of winning the lottery while being struck by a meteorite while jumping rope in a grocery store at the same time, but ya never know!)

You nailed that marable. They never even made notes regarding the 'investigation.'

 

[Bootsctr]

He knew he would be caught on camera thus the disguise, I believe, as the bicycle cop. I think it was the perp and not someone paid to park Jennifer's car.

Reading from Miss Kesse's website:

That evening, Jennifer talked to her Father, Mother, Brother and later with some friends and her boyfriend by phone as usual and that was the last anyone has seen or heard from Jennifer. Telephone call to her boyfriend at 9:57 pm1/23/06 – Monday night.

http://jenniferkesse.com/

It does not say when the telephone call ended, just that the call was made to her boyfriend at 9:57 pm. Did the call end abruptly? Was it just 2 or 3 minutes? There are links to Greta and 48 Hours case coverage at the website, so I will rewatch. The length of the call was something I noticed missing.

I agree Jennifer's case needs to be solved. It's been too long. Her family deserves some answers.