FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #4

[nanandjim]

Geez...I am so confused at this point that I'm beginning to think that the only way that this crime is going to be solved is an eventual hit on the DNA.

I'm now wondering if the perp could be a lesbian who looks and walks like a man. :waitasec: Then, again, to be a little biased, can most women park a car so precisely and quickly. I know that I can't...

 

[leftcoast]

If the back of the sign on the wrought iron fence is white, I think that the perp is wearing white. It also looks like a man to me. The thickness of the arm and also the slimness of the hips and the walk look masculine. That's my guess.

Could Jennifer's father have smelled smoke in her car and knew that she didn't allow anyone to smoke in it and therefore something had to have happened for it to smell of smoke. I'm just wondering if it was a clue such as this that was left behind, so to speak.

If true, then LE should release such information, and hopefully have a cig. butt. Another possibility is the position of the seat. However, I'm sure LE moved it around during their examination (after documenting its' postion).

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[leftcoast]

$1 Million Offered For Information In Case

To me, that is a very misleading headline.

IT is misleading. that reward is only for the SAFE return of JK.

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[nanandjim]

If true, then LE should release such information, and hopefully have a cig. butt. Another possibility is the position of the seat. However, I'm sure LE moved it around during their examination (after documenting its' postion).

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I personally think that LE should release any information that would help in the possible identification of a suspect. What do they have to lose at this point? If they have something that would specifically identify the suspect (like DNA) or something left behind in the car, they can keep that a secret. Otherwise, the more information, the better.

 

[Beyond Belief]

What color are the shoes, BB? The one thing that immediately pops to mind for me is nursing shoes, Nurse Mates to be exact. The ones I wear have a blue heart toward the back of the shoe. Here's a link.
http://www.supershoes.com/asp/Showa...nCode=122&Category=Nursing&refurl=CNP=KNC-GLX

I think their blacfk, they never change color no matter how i set the color. I thought high tops, white on top.
Good catch on the heart, I have racking my brain. Could just be writting that looks like a heart.

 

[leftcoast]

I personally think that LE should release any information that would help in the possible identification of a suspect. What do they have to lose at this point? If they have something that would specifically identify the suspect (like DNA) or something left behind in the car, they can keep that a secret. Otherwise, the more information, the better.

Totally agree

We have been begging OPD to release everything for about 4 months.

As a matter of fact, most of us abandoned this website simply because there was nothing to talk about. We all knew there was evidence placing the POI in that car, but, LE would not release that information.

I say, its NOW OR NEVER

Forget about the prosecution. Finding JK is number one. Identifying the POI, and getting him off the street, or around the clock surveillance is of upmost importance. If he is capable of this, he is capable of doing it again to some other young woman.

I guarantee, once the POI is id'd, the prosecution will take care of itself. Prosecution always comes second to the safety of the citizens of the community. imo

I can't believe the Kesse's let LE hold onto that tape for over one year. Shouldn't that be the Kesse's decision?
What if it was one of the LE's kids, would they make the same decision?

Time to show your hand. I agree.

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[rd_jfc]

I feel we have two crimes of opportunity here, and only one of them was abducting Jennifer Kesse.

The other, in my opinion, was finding a parked car with keys and purse and driving off in it. That would be the person in the surveillance pictures.

I feel confident that Jennifer would have stopped at the FedEx Kinko's on Orange Blossom near the UCF South campus on her way to work, which appears to me she would take down Orange Blossom.

Kinko's opens at 6 am. Getting there about 7 am, which is about three to four miles across Americana to Orange Blossom and down Orange Blossom to just above Sand Lake Road and the Florida Mall, would allow her to keep her normal schedule of going to work between 7:30 am and 8 am and calling Rob, perhaps on the way.

I feel Jennifer was possibly abducted like Dru Sjodin in a North Dakota mall parking lot. She was overpowered at knife point and dragged into the abductor's car.

Dru was found months later in a rural area on the way from the mall to a town 30 miles away where he lived. But that's a far more rural area than Orlando. I don't expect this abductor to be from out of town, but he may have taken Jennifer out of town to a rural area also.

In my opinion, Jennifer's car would have been left with her purse on the seat, perhaps even the keys still in the car. In a high crime area like Orange Blossom, it would only be a matter of time before someone stole the car with the purse and everything else in it.

I suspect that this is a petty criminal, an illegal, and they probably did get a print from him, and it wouldn't be in any database... yet. Perhaps they'll catch him for something else and the prints will finally match, or perhaps there's too much heat and he fled the country.

He would probably have driven to Jennifer's address to use her car to burglarize her place before she could report the car stolen, but when he saw the gates didn't try to go through them.

I think then that he drove on down to Texas Ave. intersection, knowing very well that the apartment complex was not a busy place, and took the bus down Texas and back over to Orange Blossom. He undoubtedly knows the area well and probably lived somewhere close to where he found Jennifer's car.

The irony is that none of the big ticket items, her car and credit cards, were used or sold. A petty thief would have cleaned out her condo of any valuables he could find, but decided to abandon the car and take her personal items with him.

With the news of Jennifer's disappearance, it would quickly be too risky to even turn her cell phone on, given that it apparently was not active during that time.

I hope I am wrong. This is not a good scenario for Jennifer in that the crime scene would be the abductor's vehicle, not her car, and that even if the guy in the surveillance pictures is found, he would only be able to say where he found the car.

And there really is no chance of finding him. There is only a chance of someone else knowing about this and turning him in for reward money.

As usual, finding Jennifer will help the most, but I don't think the abductor is this guy at all.

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[Myserty64]

I am familar with the Dru Sjodin case. It is a shocking story and when she was abducted she was actually talking to her boyfriend on her cell phone.

rd_jfc has an interesting post.

Is it possible she was abducted and then someone else 'stole' her car for a short joy ride and dropped it at HOTG.

One thing against this scenario is; would the car have been so correctly parked.

I believe anything is possible in this case.

 

[Beyond Belief]

did anyone notice something that looked like movement behind the car when it backs up? like someone getting out and walking away from it?

 

[rd_jfc]

Yes, Myserty, I feel he took some care to wipe down for prints, and parked so as to not draw attention.

This has simply to do with being done using the car for burglary, in my opinion. I feel he would have loaded it up with any valuables from Jennifer's condo if he could have driven up to it, but once he decides to ditch it, just being careful about being caught.

rd

 

[leftcoast]

did anyone notice something that looked like movement behind the car when it backs up? like someone getting out and walking away from it?

Bb

I went back and studied the tape. Sorry, but I just didn't see it on my tape. My tape doesnt' have real good quality. Are you sure it is a person? could it be break lights, or backup light?

My copy of the video is not good, but the whole video is dark.


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[Beyond Belief]

Bb

I went back and studied the tape. Sorry, but I just didn't see it on my tape. My tape doesnt' have real good quality. Are you sure it is a person? could it be break lights, or backup light?

My copy of the video is not good, but the whole video is dark.


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maybe back up lights, its just movement, its impossible to see a person in any of those tapes.

 

[Beyond Belief]

heres the third still if anyone wants. the guy behind the tree/shadow
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kessethirdstill.jpg


a couple of face images looking toward the right from still above. i can't them any bigger on here, but could enlarge on my psp. more than likely u won't be able to see them, but got to keep lookin an tryin..
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=imageoncar.jpg

 

[SeriouslySearching]

What color are the shoes, BB? The one thing that immediately pops to mind for me is nursing shoes, Nurse Mates to be exact. The ones I wear have a blue heart toward the back of the shoe. Here's a link.
http://www.supershoes.com/asp/Showa...nCode=122&Category=Nursing&refurl=CNP=KNC-GLX

Notice how this shoe "bends" when he is walking on the right side of the gate. I am thinking a shoe like the nursing shoe or tennis shoe type wouldn't have that much 'flex'. I know mine never have. This looks like a thinner material on the top which would allow a fold like that.

 

[leftcoast]

Now, that we know "Camera 2" is the camera at the pool, which caught the POI parking the car, and "camera 3" is at the pool gate, where is "camera 1"?

Could it be outside the rental area, or is it on the other side of the poolhouse watching the other gate entrance to the pool?

I seriously doubt a complex would have a camera 2, 3, but no camera 1.

Question is, are there any more views of the POI, and if so, do we get a better view of him or her?

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[SeriouslySearching]

I just ran across these photos of the interior of the car. You may have already seen them.

http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/7157462/detail.html

 

[CatLynnette]

I hope that I can be of some help to answer some questions since I reside in Orlando and also since I have visited Huntington On The Green Condominiums several times since Jennifer Kesse's disappearance.

In the surveillance photos of the suspect by the gate, the sign on the gate is white and the parked car is also white.

I have my doubts about the accuracy of the height of the suspect. I stood in front of that gate myself and I am 5 feet 4 1/2 inches tall. I took into account the angle of the camera and also the height of the gate. It is my own personal opinion that the suspect is about 5 feet 10 inches tall. My husband was with me at the time and he is in agreement with me that the suspect must be taller than the estimated height given by police. My husband is a professional photographer and he knows a lot about camera angles and perspective.

At the time of Jennifer Kesse's disappearance there was a manned guard house at the entrance to the Mosaic Condominiums. Security cameras had not yet been installed at the Mosaic Condominiums at the time of Jennifer's disappearance.

My own personal opinion is that the suspect is a male wearing a dark French beret type of cap or a similar type of cap. I think that he is wearing a white short sleeved T-shirt. The color of the baggy pants is difficult to determine, however, the pants could possibly be a light shade of gray or even light khaki in color. The baggy pants seem to be folded or rolled up around the ankles. The socks seem to be white. The large dark shoes must be soft soled because of the way they bend. Just my own opinion.

I am able to answer questions about the area surrounding the Mosaic and the Huntington On The Green Condominiums.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I am convinced now he is either a chef or a kitchen worker required to wear chef style clothing (line worker, cook, etc.) I believe he would be employed in a more upscale restaurant, too. The hat/cap (see the skull cap below), the baggy pants drawn at the ankle, the white tee (yes, I do believe it is white) is usually worn under their coat and the black shoes (pliable, non-slip sole). It seems to all fit. It just clicked a few minutes ago while I was looking at the pic of the suspect in a sepia tone in watercolor mode. It seemed to give the pic more clarity for some reason. Also, what I thought was his T-shirt hanging in the front could be an apron and we aren't seeing all of it. What do you think?
http://www.allheartchefs.com/cvbeanie.html <looks a lot like this one!
http://www.happychefuniforms.com/pdf_catalog/viewer_pop.cfm?CatalogPage=058_059
http://www.chefwork.com/headwear/berets.htm

http://www.happychefuniforms.com/800-347-0288/order.cfm?ProductID=24&Ref=Category< Popular pants for Chefs

http://www.chefwork.com/footwear.htm <could be top left or similar
http://www.happychefuniforms.com/800-347-0288/order.cfm?ProductID=4180&Ref=SubCategory < Looks more like this with a thin toe area and flatter sole.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I hope that I can be of some help to answer some questions since I reside in Orlando and also since I have visited Huntington On The Green Condominiums several times since Jennifer Kesse's disappearance.

In the surveillance photos of the suspect by the gate, the sign on the gate is white and the parked car is also white.

I have my doubts about the accuracy of the height of the suspect. I stood in front of that gate myself and I am 5 feet 4 1/2 inches tall. I took into account the angle of the camera and also the height of the gate. It is my own personal opinion that the suspect is about 5 feet 10 inches tall. My husband was with me at the time and he is in agreement with me that the suspect must be taller than the estimated height given by police. My husband is a professional photographer and he knows a lot about camera angles and perspective.

At the time of Jennifer Kesse's disappearance there was a manned guard house at the entrance to the Mosaic Condominiums. Security cameras had not yet been installed at the Mosaic Condominiums at the time of Jennifer's disappearance.

My own personal opinion is that the suspect is a male wearing a dark French beret type of cap or a similar type of cap. I think that he is wearing a white short sleeved T-shirt. The color of the baggy pants is difficult to determine, however, the pants could possibly be a light shade of gray or even light khaki in color. The baggy pants seem to be folded or rolled up around the ankles. The socks seem to be white. The large dark shoes must be soft soled because of the way they bend. Just my own opinion.

I am able to answer questions about the area surrounding the Mosaic and the Huntington On The Green Condominiums.

Excellent!! Glad to finally have someone from the area to answer questions! Welcome!

We have been skeptical about how accurate their description of 5'3"-5'5". I tend to agree with you. (Wouldn't it be great if you could talk HOTG into letting you stand there while your hubby checks it out on his own cam next to those?)

I also agree with your clothing description. In particular of the shoes...I say they must be thinner than any type of tennis shoe, too. If the sign and car are white, the t-shirt must be white.

Could you actually see the cameras? We were wondering where the number 1 cam is facing.

Hmmm..the manned guard house is interesting. Can you get out without them seeing you any other way?

Are there any other fine dining places very near either complex besides in the Mall itself?

 

[CatLynnette]

I am certain that many people didn't realize that there is a step up from the pavement to the gate of the pool area at Huntington On The Green Condominiums. The surveillance photos don't clearly show that there is a step up to the gate.

The peak of the roof on the pool house contains the security cameras. There are two cameras with one facing the gate and another facing the other direction towards the parking lot where Jennifer's car was discovered. It has been a while since I was at the Huntington On The Green Condominiums, however, I do seem to recall seeing something up high on the wall of one of the condominium buildings. I will need to take a drive there again and take a look to see if I am recalling seeing a third camera. I will post what I discover.

It is my opinion there is a possibility that the suspect could be a kitchen worker at a restaurant or he could be into martial arts.

The Millenia Mall area has many restaurants all around it.


Regarding the Mosaic Condominiums, where Jennifer lived, I only recall seeing one entrance that you could drive into. If the suspect was on foot then it would have been very easy for him to walk to the Mosaic Condominiums from the back side where construction of new buildings was taking place.