FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #6

[Myserty64]

Did they find Brandy Hall though?

There was one lake searched not long after Jennifer vanished. Whether there was more searches I don't know.

I do believe this could be termed a slow investigation.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

S L O W is right! What is wrong with them? If they have not already searched those ponds...that is ridiculous. Even if they didn't find her...the cells, purse, etc. could be there or any other evidence. When did they say they would do this or are they still "considering"? Sheesh!

 

[Myserty64]

I think it is fair to say this investigation got off to a bad start and it has never really recovered.
There appears to have been a mixture of bad luck and poor decisions resulting in a case in limbo.

As we all know, in this type of investigation the first 48 hours is critical.
This case never got going until after 48 hours.

As people have posted above it is most important to get all the forensic data bases up to date and keep them that way.
Surely this has to be done for the safety of the community.

Our leaders need to get the priorities right.

 

[drumstick]

Most le agencies do not have experience in dealing with missing people cases. (IMO)

We hear about all of these cases on cable news and the internet and there appears to be a flood of these cases recently, but really it's nothing new. This has been going on for ages. What is new is the way we share information so quickly.

The media is also helping share their experiences with missing cases when they ask le the right questions and give them suggestions, maybe carried from other cases.
It takes all of us working together to protect one another and help each other in a world that would hurt us.

United we stand.

Please stand up for the missing and their families.

Help shine a light on the need for timely (DNA, fingerprint) database entries.

Please stand up for Jennifer Kesse.

family tipline~ 1-407-772-2162

 

[Myserty64]

I repeat:

As people have posted above it is most important to get all the forensic data bases up to date and keep them that way.
Surely this has to be done for the safety of the community.

Our leaders need to get the priorities right.

Is this too much to ask?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree, Myserty! What good is having a community with beautiful trees, roads, and amenities our tax dollars provide...if the people living there aren't safe to enjoy them? Their priorities are messed up.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Update on kidnapped woman:

TAMPA - The Florida Highway Patrol has identified the kidnapping victim troopers rescued Thursday on Interstate 275 north of Interstate 4 as Lisa A. Baker, 35, of Panama City.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement records show no criminal history for Young in this state.

Public records list him as the registered agent of the Golden Anchor, a Waters Avenue bar. A woman who answered the phone said Young and his wife had run the business for about a year.

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/newswire/story/kidnapped-woman-identified/

I wonder where they lived before then?! This guy was married and yet had a woman at his home he then kidnapped? Maybe it wasn't the first time he has become obsessed with a female and took 'care' of the situation this way. He runs a bar and it all makes him a candidate to be looked at here in my book. I do hope Orlando LE checks him out.

 

[docwho3]

Seemed to take me forever to find a pic of the perp online at a news site. Now what I am wondering is if we can find a pic of his wife to see if she fits the image of the POI in the kesse case. So far there seems to be no connection but it doesnt hurt to consider possibilities just in case.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=58907

Edited to add: I wonder how far his home is from where J.K. disappeared?

 

[rd_jfc]

The suspect is a man, and an average height to 5'11" man at that. The police are wildly wrong in their height description, and the closeups I did show it to be a man.

The coloring is not accurate, and some think his hair is light colored, not black. The picture of the perp you posted is gray, so I wouldn't rule that out.

The face is roughly that of the face in my blowup of photo three, but the suspect in Jennifer's case had no mustache, probably a chin strap instead of a goatee, but don't know, and his hair was neatly trimmed in the back.

I personally think the Jesse suspect is much younger than 54, but considering that we have to be subjective about hair color, there is nothing about the picture you posted that rules him out. I didn't see anything else posted that suggested why you said wife other than the official height estimate.

rd

 

[petra]

rd-Wanted to thank you for the picture blow ups. Good work.

This guy from Tampa looks huge to me--not at all the same body shape.

Doing a quick search--Tampa seems to be at least 125 miles (1.5 hrs) from Orlando.

The info in the link that docwho provided says that he and his wife were seperated but living together, according to the stepson.

I think it is highly unlikely the POI is one and the same.

Thank goodness for an alert motorist!!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

It also said they have only run that bar for a year...and there is no mention his whereabouts before that time. He or they may have moved into the Tampa area from elsewhere.

I wasn't considering him to have been the one dropping off the car...but what if he owned/ran a bar or restaurant and had one of his employees do it?

You also have to consider this man's appearance could have changed dramatically in 16 or so months.

What was he going to do with this woman he had bound, gagged, and was driving around with?! I have to think her end result would not have been good.

 

[rd_jfc]

Thanks, petra. I agree with the points you and SS make, as far as not would have ended well for the woman saved by an alert motorist.

rd

 

[UCFAlumni2002]

As much as the POI is now the suspect, I still feel that he/she was not the one who abducted Jennifer. I don't know quite why- it's just a gut feeling I have. But I do wish some sort of answer would come sooner rather then later. I wish that LE would have taken this case seriously the second Jenn went missing on January 24, rather then on January 26 when her car was found.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

As much as the POI is now the suspect, I still feel that he/she was not the one who abducted Jennifer. I don't know quite why- it's just a gut feeling I have. But I do wish some sort of answer would come sooner rather then later. I wish that LE would have taken this case seriously the second Jenn went missing on January 24, rather then on January 26 when her car was found.

I believe we all agree with you on the point Jenn's case should have been taken seriously the second she went missing. Critical time was lost and, in the first few days, they didn't do everything neccessary to cover all the bases.

Your gut feeling could very well be correct. Hugs~ We all want those answers soon.

 

[UCFAlumni2002]

In only about 8 short days, it will be 1 1/2 years since Jenn vanished. Please help get coverage for Jenn's story... please email your local and national news stations asking for updates. The media gives what the public wants to see. So, please help find Jenn and get the media involved all over the country and possibly the world.

 

[rd_jfc]

The ring around the guy's neck is not normal. He is no Good Samaritan parking an abandoned car.

The ring is pronounced and very visible in the closeups of all three photos, which surprised me being visible in photo three at that distance. That also shows that the ring goes around the front of his throat as well.

rd

 

[leftcoast]

The ring around the guy's neck is not normal. He is no Good Samaritan parking an abandoned car.

The ring is pronounced and very visible in the closeups of all three photos, which surprised me being visible in photo three at that distance. That also shows that the ring goes around the front of his throat as well.

rd

RD: based on your photo's, what do you think is around the POI's neck?
Could it be a tatoo, part of his shirt, a shadow, a mark from a struggle? What's your best guess?

BTW: Good job with your effort on the photo's.

left

 

[rd_jfc]

Thanks, left. Initially I thought it was a shadow when I saw it in the first photo. But it was even more distinct in the second photo.

It is midneck, well above his white shirt. In the second photo you can even see where the skin on his neck bordering the ring is whiter than the rest. Could be an illusion, but I don't think so.

The ring doesn't have the solidness of something encircling his neck, and appears to be too straight and solid to be a necklace. I believe the detail is good enough in the second photo that if it were an intricately patterned tatto, we would detect some variance in it.

It is all consistent with self strangulation during sex. I researched if a bruise is left during such an act, and found that these (usually) men doing this put a pad around their neck to keep from leaving bruises.

Obviously, he wasn't prepared for that, which would be an indication to me of crime of opportunity versus premeditated assault and abduction, on anyone, much less Jennifer.

But I think it's a mark left during this horrific crime, and that it makes him the man who ended Jennifer's life for his evil selfishness.

rd

 

[SeriouslySearching]

OK I think that is a bit too much speculation. If it doesn't have the solidness of being "something"...it could very well be a tat. Tats vary and not all are intricately patterned. It could also be a shadow.

 

[rd_jfc]

It has the solidness of a bruise, in the same location around his neck in all three photos.

Your responses indicate you have not looked at the photos very closely.

rd