GUILTY FL - Lonzie Barton, 2, Jacksonville, 24 July 2015 - #9

[Elle*Bee]

I keep thinking one of them shook him. But then I remember the blood. Just shaking wouldn't cause blood. So now I'm thinking beating, which could also include shaking.

This is so hard. My baby died after being violently shaken, so that's probably also why I keep thinking that.

Poor baby guy

(((Hugs)))

 

[mellie89]

Thanks everyone for keeping us up-to-date with everything these past few days.

I'm just wondering, do you have to pay to take your child to the doctor or hospital in America? Here in Australia it's free to take your child (or an adult) to the hospital and also free to go to a bulk billing doctor. There's even a service where a doctor comes to your house after hours and can supply a script and medicines to last until the chemist opens. I know that Americans aren't so lucky but I'm not quite sure if you have to pay for treatments for children or not. Just wondering if that might be a reason no one bothered to take him to the doctors when he was obviously sick or if it was just because they couldn't be bothered investing anymore effort into Lonzie than necessary.

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[Kairi'sMom]

I keep thinking one of them shook him. But then I remember the blood. Just shaking wouldn't cause blood. So now I'm thinking beating, which could also include shaking.

This is so hard. My baby died after being violently shaken, so that's probably also why I keep thinking that.

Poor baby guy

(((((((Flourish))))))

 

[Kairi'sMom]

Thanks everyone for keeping us up-to-date with everything these past few days.

I'm just wondering, do you have to pay to take your child to the doctor or hospital in America? Here in Australia it's free to take your child (or an adult) to the hospital and also free to go to a bulk billing doctor. There's even a service where a doctor comes to your house after hours and can supply a script and medicines to last until the chemist opens. I know that Americans aren't so lucky but I'm not quite sure if you have to pay for treatments for children or not. Just wondering if that might be a reason no one bothered to take him to the doctors when he was obviously sick or if it was just because they couldn't be bothered investing anymore effort into Lonzie than necessary.

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We have programs for families who have low incomes. Some hospital emergency rooms are required to treat you even if you can't pay, but not all of them.
LB told LE that she had an appointment for him at a doctors office for the following day but there's no info that I know of confirming that.

 

[GutInstinct]

Hi everyone... I watched those videos of her interviews more than I should have. The dollar store run was definitely for her alfredo sauce so she could make shrimp alfredo. I remember this so clearly because LLB actually said very little during those interviews --but more than once she talked about that stupid alfredo sauce.

I'm sorry everyone. I know this hurts. Often times cases like this bring up pain from our own lives. I've seen several very personal shares from some of you...thank you. Thanks to all of you for continuing to provide and post your insight and discoveries throughout the multiple months, twists and turns. Us 'silent sleuthers' appreciate your contrubutions and personal sharing very much.

Anyhow, I often don't have anything of value to add...but I definitely remember the trip for alfredo sauce...cuz it was just so weird hearing her continue to make that one point throughout her interviews. If she had gotten LB meds, I would remember. I am fairly certain she did not. And I think the meds referenced were already at home from earlier teething issues..not teething issues at this time.

 

[altissima]

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[Karinna]

I keep thinking one of them shook him. But then I remember the blood. Just shaking wouldn't cause blood. So now I'm thinking beating, which could also include shaking.

This is so hard. My baby died after being violently shaken, so that's probably also why I keep thinking that.

Poor baby guy

flourish, ((((hugs)))). I am so sad to hear that happened to you and your baby, just heartbreaking

 

[skibaboo]

Hi everyone... I watched those videos of her interviews more than I should have. The dollar store run was definitely for her alfredo sauce so she could make shrimp alfredo. I remember this so clearly because LLB actually said very little during those interviews --but more than once she talked about that stupid alfredo sauce.

I'm sorry everyone. I know this hurts. Often times cases like this bring up pain from our own lives. I've seen several very personal shares from some of you...thank you. Thanks to all of you for continuing to provide and post your insight and discoveries throughout the multiple months, twists and turns. Us 'silent sleuthers' appreciate your contrubutions and personal sharing very much.

Anyhow, I often don't have anything of value to add...but I definitely remember the trip for alfredo sauce...cuz it was just so weird hearing her continue to make that one point throughout her interviews. If she had gotten LB meds, I would remember. I am fairly certain she did not. And I think the meds referenced were already at home from earlier teething issues..not teething issues at this time.

She went to the dollar store twice, once with Brittany and the kids around lunch/1pm, she bought eye drops and fever reducer, and a few other things, drinks and mango crunch? The 2nd time, when she went for the alfredo sauce she went on her own, I think she said 5.30/6pm.

From about the 8 minute mark

[video=youtube;ya_T-lgWsck]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya_T-lgWsck[/video]

 

[strawberry]

Who is Brittany?


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[strawberry]

I haven't followed this until recently. Joe many police interviews are there with Lonna? I seem to see at least two? Does anyone have links to all the Lina interviews?


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[flourish]

She's Lonna's friend who took them to the dollar store that morning and is apparently the last person besides the family and re to see Lonzie alive.

 

[kimi_SFC]

I haven't followed this until recently. Joe many police interviews are there with Lonna? I seem to see at least two? Does anyone have links to all the Lina interviews?


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Here's the link to Lonzie's Media thread. Many (if not all) of lonna's interviews have been posted there.

FL - Lonzie Barton, 2, Jacksonville, 24 July 2015, *Media, Maps & Timeline*
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287713

HTH....




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[strawberry]

Here's the link to Lonzie's Media thread. Many (if not all) of lonna's interviews have been posted there.

FL - Lonzie Barton, 2, Jacksonville, 24 July 2015, *Media, Maps & Timeline*
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287713

HTH....




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Thanks!


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[MsMarple]

I've been busy following little Noah Chamberlin's case but I saw a few msm articles that I thought I'd post.

On Friday, Action Jax News talked with the man who owns the property investigators have been scouring, looking for more evidence.
...
"I don't know how he got to where the body was. He could've come in off the 9B property and just walk right in," said property owner Gary Morrison.
...
Morrison explained how the stench of remains could have gone unnoticed.

"We had a big dead dog laying down here. That probably was the smell ‘cause you could come out here and you could smell. But you looked over there, you saw the dead dog and didn't pay any attention to it," Morrison said.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/n...ty-where-remains-believed-be-lonzie-ba/np6J9/

“I just can’t believe it happened. It just totally blew my mind that something like this would take place here,” Morrison said. “We had a big, dead dog laying down there and that probably was the smell, because you could come out here and smell something, but then you looked over there and saw the dead dog and didn’t pay any attention to it.”

Morrison said the smell could have been that of the remains, but he doesn’t not know. He said there have been several people dumping trash on the property for years.

“I came out here to check, there was no trash. There's been several people dumping out here. That's the main thing I was checking on, the dumping,” Morrison said. “For years people come down and dump trash and drive off. There's been lawn maintenance people that come down here and dump all their trash also.”

http://www.news4jax.com/news/forensic-analyst-the-best-of-the-best-are-working-to-solve-the-case

Ugh. More at the link. And it looks like CB may be in trouble for that jail fight:

The Baker County Sheriff's Office says it has sent a sworn complaint against Chris Barton for battery in a detention facility to the state attorney's office. If the charge is formally filed, it would be a misdemeanor.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/crime/chris-barton-facing-possible-charges-in-jail-fight

 

[strawberry]

I've been busy following little Noah Chamberlin's case but I saw a few msm articles that I thought I'd post.

On Friday, Action Jax News talked with the man who owns the property investigators have been scouring, looking for more evidence.
...
"I don't know how he got to where the body was. He could've come in off the 9B property and just walk right in," said property owner Gary Morrison.
...
Morrison explained how the stench of remains could have gone unnoticed.

"We had a big dead dog laying down here. That probably was the smell ‘cause you could come out here and you could smell. But you looked over there, you saw the dead dog and didn't pay any attention to it," Morrison said.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/n...ty-where-remains-believed-be-lonzie-ba/np6J9/

“I just can’t believe it happened. It just totally blew my mind that something like this would take place here,” Morrison said. “We had a big, dead dog laying down there and that probably was the smell, because you could come out here and smell something, but then you looked over there and saw the dead dog and didn’t pay any attention to it.”

Morrison said the smell could have been that of the remains, but he doesn’t not know. He said there have been several people dumping trash on the property for years.

“I came out here to check, there was no trash. There's been several people dumping out here. That's the main thing I was checking on, the dumping,” Morrison said. “For years people come down and dump trash and drive off. There's been lawn maintenance people that come down here and dump all their trash also.”

http://www.news4jax.com/news/forensic-analyst-the-best-of-the-best-are-working-to-solve-the-case

Ugh. More at the link. And it looks like CB may be in trouble for that jail fight:

The Baker County Sheriff's Office says it has sent a sworn complaint against Chris Barton for battery in a detention facility to the state attorney's office. If the charge is formally filed, it would be a misdemeanor.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/crime/chris-barton-facing-possible-charges-in-jail-fight

Wth people just watched a dog decompose? What is with Florida? Trash dumps and open dead dogs? I don't know any such dump areas like Lonzie and Caylee were left


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[Edinlass]

Wth people just watched a dog decompose? What is with Florida? Trash dumps and open dead dogs? I don't know any such dump areas like Lonzie and Caylee were left


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My thoughts exactly. Seems crazy that they wouldn't phone the Equivalent to the RSPCA here in the uk. Just leaving a dog rotting in plain sight is strange to say the least.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I didn't have access to the forum when this case first broke (I was on the road on vacation) and never really followed it until a few days ago. I read the whole timeline, watched interviews, and many many many of your posts, and then cried for this precious baby the same way I'm doing right now. In that alfredo sauce interview on the 29th, I was sure those two detectives were going to haul off and pop her one. I confess, I wanted to myself. I'm NOT a dog person, but good grief I treat my dog better than this "mother" treated her own kids.

I haven't read all the posts or articles so I'm still in the dark on many of the details. I think I'm glad for that. I do wonder though, why the case is still in the "missing" forum? Has Lonzie not been officially identified? (I'm sure this was asked/answered already but I didn't see it).

 

[MsMarple]

ME's office says it'll take a while for DNA to come back for official confirmation but LE is confident that it's Lonzie, especially since Ebron directed them there. I think mods are waiting for official word.

 

[Ontario Mom]

ME's office says it'll take a while for DNA to come back for official confirmation but LE is confident that it's Lonzie, especially since Ebron directed them there. I think mods are waiting for official word.

Not sure if it's been disclosed or discussed but, was it ever stated that where he was found was where he's been all along - since the night he was reported missing?

 

[skibaboo]

Not sure if it's been disclosed or discussed but, was it ever stated that where he was found was where he's been all along - since the night he was reported missing?

I'm pretty sure someone asked that at one of the press conferences? I think it was a Q to Chief Hackney? I'm not sure who answered, but they did say yes, they believe he was there from day 1

ETA: From the presser, it was the Sheriff!

So you believe Lonzie was there from that day?

Sheriff: Yes