Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #13

[Gemmie]

IMO I believe that there was a 'possibility' which put SS in a whirlwind on saturday when he was looking for meds at his parents house....his mother said Madeline called, but she didnt talk to her to know that for sure. [snip] there is only one interview released for JS's mother. she said Madeline was crying and didnt want to go home on saturday.

DS had said Maddie called on Saturday, as you said, and CS noted that he was SUPER stressed out about the call in one of his interviews. And DS was surprised in one of their interviews that he hadn't attended the party. Why would she be surprised that he hadn't attended unless he had told her previously that he planned on going.

THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL AND MOO! Perhaps he had planned on going BEFORE the phone call that freaked him out and told his parents he was going. Perhaps Maddie had told him in that call that she wanted to tell everyone at the party her "news" with SS there (as the father of the (potential) baby). THAT right there would freak any man out that was SA'ing a child since age 8, and pregnant by age 12.

IF the above actually happened, I can see him deciding not to attend the party after all (she wanted him there for that reveal in my hypothesis), and just not relay that to his parents. An adult doesn't have to tell their parents everything. Hence DS surprised that he hadn't attended. That's when he came up after the party was over. And perhaps he had set a plan in place to kill her into silence over the pregnancy, and he was hoping to get rid of her body (IMO) via alligators, so his DNA wouldn't be found in a fetus, but he got a flat fire so a bamboo field it was. Plan B, and not a great plan either. Things are not going according to plan for him. Like, at ALL (only threw away 1 shoe, etc.)

Keep in mind Maddie wasn't very happy at her party until a friend arrived, and then she got happy. But, what if she wasn't happy because SS wasn't showing so she could tell everyone her news? Sure, a friend appearing can take her mind off it and get her into a happier mood.

As for G'ma saying she was crying and didn't want to go home that night. Maybe because she was mad at SS for not showing up at the party so she could tell her "great" news. She sure didn't sound like she was unhappy when saying whe was texting SS about the baby coins "We need this" and "Get this for us please". It sounded like she was planning IMO, cuz having a baby takes a lot of planning!

Source of baby coins info in my post HERE.

 

[Megnut]

DS had said Maddie called on Saturday, as you said, and CS noted that he was SUPER stressed out about the call in one of his interviews. And DS was surprised in one of their interviews that he hadn't attended the party. Why would she be surprised that he hadn't attended unless he had told her previously that he planned on going.

THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL AND MOO! Perhaps he had planned on going BEFORE the phone call that freaked him out and told his parents he was going. Perhaps Maddie had told him in that call that she wanted to tell everyone at the party her "news" with SS there (as the father of the (potential) baby). THAT right there would freak any man out that was SA'ing a child since age 8, and pregnant by age 12.

IF the above actually happened, I can see him deciding not to attend the party after all (she wanted him there for that reveal in my hypothesis), and just not relay that to his parents. An adult doesn't have to tell their parents everything. Hence DS surprised that he hadn't attended. That's when he came up after the party was over. And perhaps he had set a plan in place to kill her into silence over the pregnancy, and he was hoping to get rid of her body (IMO) via alligators, so his DNA wouldn't be found in a fetus, but he got a flat fire so a bamboo field it was. Plan B, and not a great plan either. Things are not going according to plan for him. Like, at ALL (only threw away 1 shoe, etc.)

Keep in mind Maddie wasn't very happy at her party until a friend arrived, and then she got happy. But, what if she wasn't happy because SS wasn't showing so she could tell everyone her news? Sure, a friend appearing can take her mind off it and get her into a happier mood.

As for G'ma saying she was crying and didn't want to go home that night. Maybe because she was mad at SS for not showing up at the party so she could tell her "great" news. She sure didn't sound like she was unhappy when saying whe was texting SS about the baby coins "We need this" and "Get this for us please". It sounded like she was planning IMO, cuz having a baby takes a lot of planning!

Source of baby coins info in my post HERE.

Didn't you get the impression from the phone call, that SS left his parents' house on Saturday? With the expectation he was going FOR the purpose of attending the birthday party?

Wasn't he also looking for medicine too? Was he hoping to spike a miscarriage, instead he couldn't wake her up?

I don't think JS was doing a good job (understatement) keeping track of MS's cycle like she said she was. Easily MS could have been deceptive where her BFF (and the BFF's cycle were concerned). No doubt SS had been grooming her, messing with her head, convincing her their love was special (puke) and they needed to keep it between them because regular people wouldn't understand
All the garbage pedophiles do in order to keep doing what they do.

Whether she was or wasn't pregnant, I think SS thought she was. And took matters into his own hands, with deadly consequences.

If not for that flat tire, her body might never have been found.

JMO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Both JS and her mother have said that SS wasn't invited to the party. So JMO I really doubt if Maddie was calling Stephan on Saturday to see if he was coming.

 

[Pruddennce]

They are the most “rational” parents of a suspect I’ve ever heard. There’s no “oh my poor baby I know you are innocent we will get you out.” Especially the father. The mom is still a mom and as such it’s hard not to think about your child’s well being.

I agree to an extent. their immediate reaction was JS was involved in something. that evolved into accepting the SA charges, but not 100% culpability. first degree murder they havent really addressed it head on because that is an unknown. IMO, they are laying the groundwork his childhood "TBI" which has not been substantiated to date, is the cause and effect of what SS turned into, possible mitigating factor for all of his crimes.

the word 'child', you nailed it. at 37 years old, he's living in their home off and on, playing with his toys, enabling him to be financially and emotionally dependent on them. but yet SS has money for mail orders and his 'hobby'. they accepted that arrangement. and case in point: his father showing up at LE location to ask them to find out why SS hasnt called them and then 'suspects' SS is being treated badly. still viewing SS as a child who needs looking after.

they actually admit they would not question him about, lets say, starting with saturday and his search for meds. (LE interview) basically they said, best not say anything that will 'set him off', so they go with the flow. that IMO, seems to be their historical posturing, dont rock the boat.

despite DS's comment she would witness JS 'baked', (her word) or being alarmed about sleeping arrangements, she only took action in her own home, which was basically a band aid.... Madeline would not sleep with JS and SS in their home.....but knew the communal bed arrangement would ultimately continue and so would JS's 'getting baked' with or without SS.

they did, IMO, what they have done all of their lives with SS and it then extended to JS. IMO wanting a peaceful life, just hope for the best. they were looking forward to not dealing with him for a week. (their words)

Im not saying they didnt care about Madeline during the handful of visits they had with her in their home. nor were they responsible for his crimes or JS lack of parental responsibilities known so far in this case. but the reality is Madeline was not their grandchild and barely in their lives. she was their son's GF's child and they didnt go beyond a 'barking concern' for Madeline's well being, only while she was in their home. IMO

I didnt hear one ounce of sadness that Madeline was SA'd by their son for years and ultimately lost her life. what they did say was JS was a bad influence on their son. IMO, JS didnt turn out to be the person they hoped for who would take over 'parenting' their son. nothing about how JS's lifestyle of medications might impact Madeline, rather only how impacted their son.

 

[ttjo]

IMO I believe that there was a 'possibility' which put SS in a whirlwind on saturday when he was looking for meds at his parents house....his mother said Madeline called, but she didnt talk to her to know that for sure.

I believed that too because the parents said he had a phone call and was in a foul mood after. However, In the video that @Gemmie posted in #956 from crime fix starting at 10:18 CS asked Stephen "are you able to share... the Saturday night before you left to Kissimmee, you were pretty upset about something, did it have anything to do with Kissimmee and the events that took place in the next couple of days" and Stephan said NO. Typical in this case, one day one thing is said that sounds significant , and next time it's discussed it's nothing, It's crazy making.

 

[Gemmie]

I believed that too because the parents said he had a phone call and was in a foul mood after. However, In the video that @Gemmie posted in #956 from crime fix starting at 10:18 CS asked Stephen "are you able to share... the Saturday night before you left to Kissimmee, you were pretty upset about something, did it have anything to do with Kissimmee and the events that took place in the next couple of days" and Stephan said NO. Typical in this case, one day one thing is said that sounds significant , and next time it's discussed it's nothing, It's crazy making.

BBMFF

Yeah, and we all believe SS when he said "NO" to that question, or just about anything he says, right?

 

[ttjo]

BBMFF

Yeah, and we all believe SS when he said "NO" to that question, or just about anything he says, right?

Exactly, like his mom said he knows why your asking before you even ask the question, he's not going to implicate himself thats for sure.

 

[CuriousCricket]

I agree to an extent. their immediate reaction was JS was involved in something. that evolved into accepting the SA charges, but not 100% culpability. first degree murder they havent really addressed it head on because that is an unknown. IMO, they are laying the groundwork his childhood "TBI" which has not been substantiated to date, is the cause and effect of what SS turned into, possible mitigating factor for all of his crimes.

the word 'child', you nailed it. at 37 years old, he's living in their home off and on, playing with his toys, enabling him to be financially and emotionally dependent on them. but yet SS has money for mail orders and his 'hobby'. they accepted that arrangement. and case in point: his father showing up at LE location to ask them to find out why SS hasnt called them and then 'suspects' SS is being treated badly. still viewing SS as a child who needs looking after.

they actually admit they would not question him about, lets say, starting with saturday and his search for meds. (LE interview) basically they said, best not say anything that will 'set him off', so they go with the flow. that IMO, seems to be their historical posturing, dont rock the boat.

despite DS's comment she would witness JS 'baked', (her word) or being alarmed about sleeping arrangements, she only took action in her own home, which was basically a band aid.... Madeline would not sleep with JS and SS in their home.....but knew the communal bed arrangement would ultimately continue and so would JS's 'getting baked' with or without SS.

they did, IMO, what they have done all of their lives with SS and it then extended to JS. IMO wanting a peaceful life, just hope for the best. they were looking forward to not dealing with him for a week. (their words)

Im not saying they didnt care about Madeline during the handful of visits they had with her in their home. nor were they responsible for his crimes or JS lack of parental responsibilities known so far in this case. but the reality is Madeline was not their grandchild and barely in their lives. she was their son's GF's child and they didnt go beyond a 'barking concern' for Madeline's well being, only while she was in their home. IMO

I didnt hear one ounce of sadness that Madeline was SA'd by their son for years and ultimately lost her life. what they did say was JS was a bad influence on their son. IMO, JS didnt turn out to be the person they hoped for who would take over 'parenting' their son. nothing about how JS's lifestyle of medications might impact Madeline, rather only how impacted their son.

As you have described their attitude, if it is correct, then I'm seeing SS as abusive with a hair trigger. That's why they're so interested in "going with the flow". They will do about anything not to set him off.

Perhaps they are "rational" because it's a great relief to know the state will now be housing, feeding and clothing him and they are safe from him. My best guess would be he will manage to keep his temper with someone who can best him physically and that the guards and other inmates may never see that side of SS.

 

[FromGermany1]

BBMFF

Yeah, and we all believe SS when he said "NO" to that question, or just about anything he says, right?

Neither CS/DS nor we are believing SS one single word, I think.

 

[FromGermany1]

Exactly, like his mom said he knows why your asking before you even ask the question, he's not going to implicate himself thats for sure.

Sons of Ex Police Officers ...... MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

DS had said Maddie called on Saturday, as you said, and CS noted that he was SUPER stressed out about the call in one of his interviews. And DS was surprised in one of their interviews that he hadn't attended the party. Why would she be surprised that he hadn't attended unless he had told her previously that he planned on going.

THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL AND MOO! Perhaps he had planned on going BEFORE the phone call that freaked him out and told his parents he was going. Perhaps Maddie had told him in that call that she wanted to tell everyone at the party her "news" with SS there (as the father of the (potential) baby). THAT right there would freak any man out that was SA'ing a child since age 8, and pregnant by age 12.

IF the above actually happened, I can see him deciding not to attend the party after all (she wanted him there for that reveal in my hypothesis), and just not relay that to his parents. An adult doesn't have to tell their parents everything. Hence DS surprised that he hadn't attended. That's when he came up after the party was over. And perhaps he had set a plan in place to kill her into silence over the pregnancy, and he was hoping to get rid of her body (IMO) via alligators, so his DNA wouldn't be found in a fetus, but he got a flat fire so a bamboo field it was. Plan B, and not a great plan either. Things are not going according to plan for him. Like, at ALL (only threw away 1 shoe, etc.)

Keep in mind Maddie wasn't very happy at her party until a friend arrived, and then she got happy. But, what if she wasn't happy because SS wasn't showing so she could tell everyone her news? Sure, a friend appearing can take her mind off it and get her into a happier mood.

As for G'ma saying she was crying and didn't want to go home that night. Maybe because she was mad at SS for not showing up at the party so she could tell her "great" news. She sure didn't sound like she was unhappy when saying whe was texting SS about the baby coins "We need this" and "Get this for us please". It sounded like she was planning IMO, cuz having a baby takes a lot of planning!

Source of baby coins info in my post HERE.

Maybe, Maddie was afraid of her mother and her reaction, if she expected SS to tell JS of his future "happy" fatherhood. MS wanted coins and to be special and happy; SS said, he would have to tell her mum; MS knew, how her mum would behave .... I would also have cried, when I had to return to my mum after my party. MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

IMO I believe that there was a 'possibility' which put SS in a whirlwind on saturday when he was looking for meds at his parents house....his mother said Madeline called, but she didnt talk to her to know that for sure.

Madeline's mindset from her teacher/counselor who met with her for check-ins 6 times (Sept thru Feb)...Madeline was doing so much better for their monthly check ins, mostly discussed JS, (JS yelling at her about things), said things were better at home and school in Dec Jan and Feb. she had no "unscheduled" visits with her due to panic/anxiety which occurred in the past. she told her she didnt like SS, made her feel uncomfortable, eats all their food and she was glad that SS was moving out...in December. Madeline called him weird.

no commentary:

Madeline texted SS about these coins in December, but she told this counselor she didnt like him and was glad he was moving out. IMO I think we can all agree something happened on saturday in all 3 of their universes. there is only one interview released for JS's mother. she said Madeline was crying and didnt want to go home on saturday. there isnt any follow up question by LE in this interview asking why Madeline was crying. I cant imagine why it wasnt asked. which leads me to believe LE hasnt released all of the interviews. lots of redacted pages.

Im wondering if anything was recovered from Madeline's phone and if anything else was found in her room in written form or on her computer besides the s/explicit drawings in the math book. IMO, Im hoping Madeline left behind alot of missing pieces which is being withheld from the public.

Maddie's mother had a boyfriend for 5 years on and off, SS, and had much to critizise on him. No wonder, MS did the same: wanting SS in her life, but critizise his character. She didn't have another example of a relationship during her 12/13 years. MOO

 

[iamshadow21]

Maybe, Maddie was afraid of her mother and her reaction, if she expected SS to tell JS of his future "happy" fatherhood. MS wanted coins and to be special and happy; SS said, he would have to tell her mum; MS knew, how her mum would behave .... I would also have cried, when I had to return to my mum after my party. MOO

Personally, I really doubt any thirteen year old would view a pregnancy as an 'exciting' thing. Especially as a result of long term rape by a parental figure adult.

Children in those circumstances have it drummed into them that any disclosure of the abuse will result in them being harmed. I'll kill you, I'll kill your loved ones. A pregnancy in those circumstances is a five alarm fire, it cannot be hidden.

A literal child expecting a child of rape isn't planning a cutesy announcement that she's expecting a baby, she is anticipating her own murder.

MOO

 

[Pruddennce]

Didn't you get the impression from the phone call, that SS left his parents' house on Saturday? With the expectation he was going FOR the purpose of attending the birthday party?

Wasn't he also looking for medicine too? Was he hoping to spike a miscarriage, instead he couldn't wake her up?

I don't think JS was doing a good job (understatement) keeping track of MS's cycle like she said she was. Easily MS could have been deceptive where her BFF (and the BFF's cycle were concerned). No doubt SS had been grooming her, messing with her head, convincing her their love was special (puke) and they needed to keep it between them because regular people wouldn't understand
All the garbage pedophiles do in order to keep doing what they do.

Whether she was or wasn't pregnant, I think SS thought she was. And took matters into his own hands, with deadly consequences.

If not for that flat tire, her body might never have been found.

JMO

your thought about him possibly planning to go on Saturday...it seems likely to me as well. (Im sure LE knows the travels on saturday for the vehicle). His father spoke about his birthday visit as if he didnt know when he was leaving, having overlapping conversation with DS about it and finally saying he found out sunday and said he told SS to go fill up the car. but DS cleared it up saying she knew a week in advance about the party, hence the gift she pulled together. but DS also said "Madeline called" on saturday to make sure he was coming for the BD. IMO, thats something that SS told her, as she didnt speak with Madeline.

again, my burning question which CS was never asked or volunteered to qualify: why was he repeatedly calling SS on Monday? (SS didnt call him back until after 3pm) he already spoke to SS on sunday when SS said he arrived.

JS and the cycle: I agree. she wasnt keeping track as in asking Madeline, she actually said Madeline would 'tell her'. which brings me to January when Madeline's bestie said she was late but eventually got it. which may not have been the truth from Madeline. and we certainly do not know about December either. SS moved out in December but came back sometime for Christmas and Madeline sent the coins text to him on Dec 16. Im wondering if they were ever ordered.

Im wondering also about Madeline's best friend and contacts with her: in Dec 2023, winter break began Dec 25 thru January 5, 2024. Did she get together with her best friend at any time during break, how often did they communicate while on break?

was JS aware of this coin text exchange when she said her sister checked Madeline's phone msgs, or was it already deleted and was recovered from LE's investigative download or cloud extraction from SS's phone and/or Madeline's? to date, there is nothing in the investigative docs that indicate JS was asked about the coin text.

also, presently its conflicting information released concerning what "Madeline said". she doesnt like SS she told the counselor, and is happy he is moving out. doesnt discuss SS with bestie at all other than she had a close relationship with SS..... and then this text to him indicates she is not stressed with him at all. so much redacted....

 

[Gemmie]

Im wondering also about Madeline's best friend and contacts with her: in Dec 2023, winter break began Dec 25 thru January 5, 2024. Did she get together with her best friend at any time during break, how often did they communicate while on break?

IMO at least daily, if not more often. After all... they are young, giggling, BFF's.

Pg 107 of 896 (BFF interview): She talked to Maddie every day on the phone and would also text her every morning when she woke up. BFF thought it was odd that she did not receive a text from Maddie on Monday, February 26, 2024. When she called on the morning of February 26th, there was no answer.

And something I've said upthread... I would think Maddie would have had her phone with her in room #4, just so she could text/receive a text from her friend first thing in the morning. I'd think her habit was to reach over, grab the phone and text. Not get up, brush your teeth, change your clothes, the find your phone and then text, or reply late to your friend's text. Yet where was her phone? Not in the nightstand in room #4... it was downstairs in her makeshift room. Obvs JMO

also, presently its conflicting information released concerning what "Madeline said". she doesnt like SS she told the counselor, and is happy he is moving out. doesnt discuss SS with bestie at all other than she had a close relationship with SS..... and then this text to him indicates she is not stressed with him at all. so much redacted....

She was 12, or maybe even younger. I can most definitely see her moods changing. Heck, it happens even with adults. I can see her totally into him one day, and "I hate him!" the next. Especially a young girl like her with her hormones kicking into gear during puberty, which is what she was likely going through the entire time SS was in her life.

From AI: A young girl's hormones start to change during puberty, which typically begins between the ages of 8 and 13.

She probably had a LOT of up and down days. IMO, more than the average person simply due to JS being her parent, and SS SAing her all through puberty.

JMO

 

[Pruddennce]

IMO at least daily, if not more often. After all... they are young, giggling, BFF's.

Pg 107 of 896 (BFF interview): She talked to Maddie every day on the phone and would also text her every morning when she woke up. BFF thought it was odd that she did not receive a text from Maddie on Monday, February 26, 2024. When she called on the morning of February 26th, there was no answer.

And something I've said upthread... I would think Maddie would have had her phone with her in room #4, just so she could text/receive a text from her friend first thing in the morning. I'd think her habit was to reach over, grab the phone and text. Not get up, brush your teeth, change your clothes, the find your phone and then text, or reply late to your friend's text. Yet where was her phone? Not in the nightstand in room #4... it was downstairs in her makeshift room. Obvs JMO

She was 12, or maybe even younger. I can most definitely see her moods changing. Heck, it happens even with adults. I can see her totally into him one day, and "I hate him!" the next. Especially a young girl like her with her hormones kicking into gear during puberty, which is what she was likely going through the entire time SS was in her life.

From AI: A young girl's hormones start to change during puberty, which typically begins between the ages of 8 and 13.

She probably had a LOT of up and down days. IMO, more than the average person simply due to JS being her parent, and SS SAing her all through puberty.

JMO

Madeline's phone was turned off at 7:16am. since we dont have a chron, Im curious as to what time their exchanges would traditionally occur before school. and of course, JS has no idea where Madeline charged her phone sunday nite, but normally, she said, it would be on 'Madeline's side' of JS's bed, attached to a long charger cord. that nite, she doesnt know where it was charged. but of course she doesnt know. /s

JS says she found it in MS's bedroom space monday as she was 'straightening up' or something along those lines. IMO, she cannot be believed where she found Madeline's phone. all we know is JS didnt turn it back on at 10:55am because she wasnt home. but she certainly could have handled it sunday nite and monday morning.

 

[Megnut]

Madeline's phone was turned off at 7:16am. since we dont have a chron, Im curious as to what time their exchanges would traditionally occur before school. and of course, JS has no idea where Madeline charged her phone sunday nite, but normally, she said, it would be on 'Madeline's side' of JS's bed, attached to a long charger cord. that nite, she doesnt know where it was charged. but of course she doesnt know. /s

JS says she found it in MS's bedroom space monday as she was 'straightening up' or something along those lines. IMO, she cannot be believed where she found Madeline's phone. all we know is JS didnt turn it back on at 10:55am because she wasnt home. but she certainly could have handled it sunday nite and monday morning.

Do we know what time MS's phone went to the charger Sunday night?

I'm going to guess MS expected to sleep in her mother's freaky family bed and put her phone there herself.

The ridiculous dog walking story, I don't know who made that up or interpreted what thusly, but I suspect SS went into JS's room to intercept MS's phone so the alarm wouldn't wake JS whom IMO he had no intention of waking and in fact was actively working toward not waking.

I apologize for attributing "actively working" to SS because he appears to have made a career of the opposite.

That being said, he was likely more motivated than he'd ever been that morning, being that he had a dead or drugged child to disappear.

He's the only person IMO situated to move her phone into her reserved living room cubicle. (I refuse to call it a bedroom.)

Too bad JS didnt find that odd enough to warrant a little walkabout and looksie to see what else MS may have left behind, for a quick drop off at school. You know, like her water bottle. Her one croc.

But then, a lot that mattered to MS was overlooked.

Understatement.

JMO

 

[Pruddennce]

Do we know what time MS's phone went to the charger Sunday night?

I'm going to guess MS expected to sleep in her mother's freaky family bed and put her phone there herself.

The ridiculous dog walking story, I don't know who made that up or interpreted what thusly, but I suspect SS went into JS's room to intercept MS's phone so the alarm wouldn't wake JS whom IMO he had no intention of waking and in fact was actively working toward not waking.

I apologize for attributing "actively working" to SS because he appears to have made a career of the opposite.

That being said, he was likely more motivated than he'd ever been that morning, being that he had a dead or drugged child to disappear.

He's the only person IMO situated to move her phone into her reserved living room cubicle. (I refuse to call it a bedroom.)

Too bad JS didnt find that odd enough to warrant a little walkabout and looksie to see what else MS may have left behind, for a quick drop off at school. You know, like her water bottle. Her one croc.

But then, a lot that mattered to MS was overlooked.

Understatement.

JMO

the phone was plugged in a charger at 23:38pm. page 45-46 it did show 'stairs climbed', 31 steps but not who was holding the phone, of course. after it was taken off the charger at 7:04am, there were many many steps. it was turned off at 7:16am so nothing is recorded such as going downstairs where it was 'found by JS' in Madeline's 'space'. then, its turned back on at 10:55am which could only have been done by SS.

https://www.scribd.com/document/761...-the-investigation-into-Madeline-Sotos-murder

but Im wondering about this: LE tracked the time period of Madeline's phone movements health app starting at 8:30pm on 2/25. there are no steps tracked on her phone when she got home between 8:30-8:45pm as in walking in the house...nothing until 10:09pm, and only 9 steps. is it possible Madeline did not take her phone with her to the party?

 

[Megnut]

the phone was plugged in a charger at 23:38pm. page 45-46 it did show 'stairs climbed', 31 steps but not who was holding the phone, of course. after it was taken off the charger at 7:04am, there were many many steps. it was turned off at 7:16am so nothing is recorded such as going downstairs where it was 'found by JS' in Madeline's 'space'. then, its turned back on at 10:55am which could only have been done by SS.

https://www.scribd.com/document/761...-the-investigation-into-Madeline-Sotos-murder

but Im wondering about this: LE tracked the time period of Madeline's phone movements health app starting at 8:30pm on 2/25. there are no steps tracked on her phone when she got home between 8:30-8:45pm as in walking in the house...nothing until 10:09pm, and only 9 steps. is it possible Madeline did not take her phone with her to the party?

Interesting.

Her phone would show walking at the party, maybe a gap in walking during the car ride, steps coming in the door... you'd think LE would include data like that. If they had it. Instead there's just a range for her arrival. Because IMO that info didn't come from her phone.

If you're right, her phone was left behind. In her cubicle.

9 steps. Is that the distance from the kitchen counter or cubicle to JS's nightstand?

There is IMO no credible dialogue from MS that night so I'm going to suppose MS did not move her phone at that late hour. Possible but doubtful.

Was this the same time frame that SS came downstairs because he needed to use the bathroom because the female roommate didn't wasn't to share a bathroom with a man (who happened to be filming her)... was JS still up and moving around? Did she put MS's phone on the charger in her room? The phone, the dog walking, no eyes on MS...

Here's what is probably saddest of all, in this -- the same blind gullibility that fogged JS from acknowledging SS's inappropriate (criminal) contact with her child, allowing him unfettered access is the same blind gullibility that made it easy for SS to murder her daughter and walk her right out of the house.

SS isn't even a good liar.

Sad, sad all around. For MS, waving red flags everywhere.

JMO

 

[sunspun]

It's possible her phone battery had died while at the party and didn't get plugged in to charge til after she got home. But seems unlikely.