FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #15

[lonetraveler]

I agree 100% he deserves death.
Jmo

https://twitter.com/x/status/1947350344704659681

I still can't understand why a plea was accepted.

 

[ttjo]

And where is Jen Soto... She couldn't manage to attend a plea hearing for her daughter's rape and murder?
Her and Sterns are both cowards.

Im not sure how to interpret her not showing up.
I understand she was in a no win situation, whether she showed up or not.
but now she lives as though she is guilty of something in the eyes of the public, maybe she doesnt care.
That was a missed opportunity, for her to say something that might change how people react to her, but she chose not to. What does that tell us?

 

[LetsSolvIt]

If Florida prisons are like Louisiana’s Angola, tons of prisoners have shanks.

Stephan Sterns deserves something more sustained than a shank. He needs to be looking over his shoulder in terror every day for many years. He needs some hefty street guys to get his attention because I’m pretty sure he wasn’t listening to the victims in court today.

I am very disappointed in the State of Florida. I always had the impression they were no nonsense. Florida let Maddie down, and her loved ones. And SS got off easy.

Slimy, perverted skuzball-coward SS didn’t have to admit guilt on murder, he didn’t have to allocute, or even have to stand up to address the judge. He did not have to directly face the cameras or the citizens of Florida. His sentences should have been consecutive to emphasize he’s there forever (gosh I hope there is no loophole). I certainly hope he and hiz m0m have access to WS and come to know we all see through his pathetic blather and know what he deserves (not counseling for PTSD over Maddie’s murder).

And why with the depravity of these crimes didn’t this judge follow the esteemed S.C. Judge Clifton Newman, who gave Alex Murdaugh a talking to. The judge seemed pretty disgusted why didn’t he say something more — a good time would have been after the looser made his wheezily lier statement.

Thinking back to some sympathies expressed in jail calls, I’m thinking his p-units weren’t in court today out of shame and embarrassment. Not blaming them but many dialogues shocked me. As far as Maddie’s “MOTHER,” she is pathetic and I hope they soon arrest her. I am so grateful Maddie had all those loving aunts, family friends, and a grandmother right nearby, and a developing father relationship. If only Maddie had told them what she was suffering

In case you can’t tell, I am just livid. This was the most underwhelming plea hearing. Very little justice for Maddie. IMHO.

God rest your soul, dear sweet Maddie. May you never again encounter the scum that betrayed and assaulted you.

 

[Gemmie]

Maybe re-word it? I get that you didn't mean that Maddie didn't start it, but the comment can be taken that way. IMO.
ETA my opinion

Thank you for suggesting I reword it. I went and did that.

At first I had no idea how someone could come to that conclusion (because I knew what I meant), but reading my post thru someone else's eyes made me see how what I was trying to say could be totally misconstrued. My point (that I failed to get across) was that I didn't think it was JS that started it (the post I was quoting was saying that), and that to SS, he was thinking Maddie started it cuz that's just the way he is. Nothing is his fault, even things that was WAY smaller than what he did to that poor child. He's a very flawed human being in that regard.

 

[lonetraveler]

What does that tell you? How do you interpret that?
I understand she was in a no win situation, whether she showed up or not.
but now she lives as though she is guilty of something in the eyes of the public, maybe she doesnt care.
That was a missed opportunity, for her to say something that might change how people react to her, but she chose not to. What does that tell us?

Actually? I don't think there is a single thing she could have said that would change anything about how people think about her. It has been very obvious that she allowed a grown man to sleep with her daughter. Nothing will ever change that. She is guilty of something in the eyes of the public and always will be, she deserves it.

 

[ttjo]

Actually? I don't think there is a single thing she could have said that would change anything about how people think about her. It has been very obvious that she allowed a grown man to sleep with her daughter. Nothing will ever change that. She is guilty of something in the eyes of the public and always will be, she deserves it.

yeah youre probably right, she could feel guilty for that part alone, but it does make me wonder how much more there is that we dont know.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Why did the State acquiesce?

Phone records were in. They could have held the irons to the fire. He pleads guilty and allocates or it's DP. He was in no position to bargain.

(Trial) cost analysis maybe. But that isn't satisfying. Why why why did they let him off easy? He should have been forced to say guilty, say whether he acted alone. Otherwise DP stays.

Maybe everyone is gunshy after Caylee but this was solid.

The State caved.

SS brought NOTHING to the negotiations table.

No contest.

That is not right.

JMO

Any chance that debacle with the sheriff posting a photo of corpse on SM would have brought questions about honesty among LE the investigation? It’s about the only thing I can think of as to why this plea was almost a giveaway. MOO

 

[Gemmie]

Wrong thread. Meant for a DM!

 

[Inthedetails]

Im not sure how to interpret her not showing up.
I understand she was in a no win situation, whether she showed up or not.
but now she lives as though she is guilty of something in the eyes of the public, maybe she doesnt care.
That was a missed opportunity, for her to say something that might change how people react to her, but she chose not to. What does that tell us?

Why should she care on this day of all days what people think of her? (I'm not directing that question at you, but in general.)

I would think a mother would be thinking of her daughter, not herself, on this day. As a mom, she could have been there to represent her daughter who was used, injured, and murdered by the man in court. Even if she didn't say anything, she could have the decency to be there in place of her daughter to witness justice happen.

But, she's never stood by Maddie, imo. Maybe she didn't want to "take sides" against SS, for all we know.

Nothing but cowards, both of them.

jmopinion

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Did anyone get a breakdown on what he did plead actual 'guilty' to?

I was so upset over the 'no contest' chorus, I missed it.

What was that big huddle about with the judge?

Should we expect a flood of FOIA requests now? Or will there be nothing much available since Maddie was a minor?

 

[ttjo]

Thank you for suggesting I reword it. I went and did that.

At first I had no idea how someone could come to that conclusion (because I knew what I meant), but reading my post thru someone else's eyes made me see how what I was trying to say could be totally misconstrued. My point (that I failed to get across) was that I didn't think it was JS that started it (the post I was quoting was saying that), and that to SS, he was thinking Maddie started it cuz that's just the way he is. Nothing is his fault, even things that was WAY smaller than what he did to that poor child. He's a very flawed human being in that regard.

Ive followed your posts for a long time, I knew what you meant. it was a tongue in cheek response. I know you didnt believe it was her fault and were just reiterating him saying to his parents " I didnt start it" I remember that call very well.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I get it, Rio, but it just seems so unfinished and almost like a "win" for this perv/killer.
It's also very gross that he was able to make a statement, but we've seen that before, too.
I'm not going back to re-watch, but did the judge say anything to his crimes? Anything about him being the worst of the worst?
Maddie's case will haunt me for a very long time.
IMO.

I agree with the plea, although he soooo deserves PD. I just thought the terms weren’t tough enough and what was said to and required of the perv in court was very lacking. Contrast this plea hearing to the sicko murderer’s in Idaho.

 

[ttjo]

Why should she care on this day of all days what people think of her? (I'm not directing that question at you, but in general.)

I would think a mother would be thinking of her daughter, not herself, on this day. As a mom, she could have been there to represent her daughter who was used, injured, and murdered by the man in court. Even if she didn't say anything, she could have the decency to be there in place of her daughter to witness justice happen.

But, she's never stood by Maddie, imo. Maybe she didn't want to "take sides" against SS, for all we know.

Nothing but cowards, both of them.

jmopinion

so true, I have to process this part a little more because Im not sure what to think about it, if its shame that made her not show up or if its guilt.

 

[angelainwi]

so true, I have to process this part a little more because Im not sure what to think about it, if its shame that made her not show up or if its guilt.

I get what you are laying down. It would have been a huge opportunity for her to give a strong statement about her daughter FINALLY. That could have went a long way towards people having at least some goodwill towards her.

 

[ttjo]

I get what you are laying down. It would have been a huge opportunity for her to give a strong statement about her daughter FINALLY. That could have went a long way towards people having at least some goodwill towards her.

Yes thank you, Thats exactly what I meant.

 

[Gemmie]

I had no idea the $11K+ court costs were for these orgs:

Felony crimestoppers, teen court fee, Rape crisis program, Felony rape crisis program, Crimes against a minor, etc. They are surcharges, service charges, and court costs. Does anyone know how that works? Cuz there is line after line after line of them.

And it appears all of those have been waived.

Search

 

[Gemmie]

SS's CSAM case has been closed. But his murder case has not been closed.

 

[Gemmie]

Ive followed your posts for a long time, I knew what you meant. it was a tongue in cheek response. I know you didnt believe it was her fault and were just reiterating him saying to his parents " I didnt start it" I remember that call very well.

No, it wasn't even tongue in cheek. It was bad wording on my part and it failed to get my point across. I took the good advice and reworded it cuz I'd hate to think someone could think I meant it was Maddie's fault, when nothing is further than the truth. That fault lays squarely on JS for turning a blind eye and sending her daughter to bed with a grown man, and SS's fault for being a disgusting human being and doing unspeakable things to a little girl. Absolutely no fault at all of Maddie's.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I get what you are laying down. It would have been a huge opportunity for her to give a strong statement about her daughter FINALLY. That could have went a long way towards people having at least some goodwill towards her.

I don't think there's anything she could have said about Madeline that would have generated my good will toward her. I believe I listened to all of her interviews with LE in the days right after Madeline went missing. The only positive thing she ever said about her daughter was that she had a beautiful singing voice. She never said once as far as I recall that she loved Madeline, or even seemed that concerned that she was missing.

The one thing she could have said that would have generated my goodwill is if she had admitted she'd known all along what SS was doing with Madeline and let it happen, even facilated it by sending Maddie to sleep with SS. Her owning her own culpability in the matter would have redeemed her somewhat in my view. Not that that will ever happen, of course.

One thing she and SS have in common for sure: neither one ever takes responsibility for anything.

JMO.

 

[ttjo]

No, it wasn't even tongue in cheek. It was bad wording on my part and it failed to get my point across. I took the good advice and reworded it cuz I'd hate to think someone could think I meant it was Maddie's fault, when nothing is further than the truth. That fault lays squarely on JS for turning a blind eye and sending her daughter to bed with a grown man, and SS's fault for being a disgusting human being and doing unspeakable things to a little girl. Absolutely no fault at all of Maddie's.

I get it, someone new may misinterpret, its all good now tho.