FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

[glamourkitty1922]

Holy moly! I wish it had ended differently.

I wish it had ended with nobody being hurt, but M wasn't going to let that happen. I wish it would have ended with M actually backing off and facing charges in court, but I am not willing to have D die for that. It could have ended better, but it also could have ended much much worse. M could have killed or maimed his victim.

 

[kimlynn]

It was both brutal and cowardly since it came from behind. M was a coward and he gave D no quarter. He probably would have killed the man for telling that woman she was parked in a handicapped spot. That is reprehensible and this is a sterling example why we need the SYG law as well as CCW permits.

No, it wasn't from behind. Markeis approaches from the side and MD turns to face Markeis. Markeis shoves him from the front in the upper area of his body. MD landed on his buttocks which couldn't have happened if he had been shoved from behind.
And IMO,Markeis was protecting his family from an irate stranger.
If you missed these details what else did you miss from watching the video.
Done. I have given my opinion based on what I saw from the video

 

[glamourkitty1922]

you are misunderstanding me. I would not start a fight w anyone. but I will fight anyone who would come to me. and that's a fundamental difference between me and you. you rather kill someone. says a lot about you.

I will not engage in physical fights, I doubt as a woman that I would have a chance. I will depend upon my CCW. I am not saying that you don't have the right to allow yourself to be beaten. That decision is not mine. I am just saying that I would not meekly submit to a beating, I will use my weapon. Because that is what it's for.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

No, it wasn't from behind. Markeis approaches from the side and MD turns to face Markeis. Markeis shoves him from the front in the upper area of his body. MD landed on his buttocks which couldn't have happened if he had been shoved from behind.
And IMO,Markeis was protecting his family from an irate stranger.
If you missed these details what else did you miss from watching the video.
Done. I have given my opinion based on what I saw from the video

That's not what the video shows me. He came up behind D and attacked him. Didn't speak, didn't confront him face to face, just brutally attacked him.
Video shows he came up behind him, and I base EVERYTHING on the video. I don't use imagination to twist the facts into a biased narrative.

 

[andreww]

It was a shove. And it wouldn't have happened if the shooter hadn't confronted anyone over a parking spot.Every customer looked in the direction of the altercation before any shots were fired.
This indicates it wasn't a civil conversation. This is why Markeis came out and shoved the shooter to protect his family.

So you are blaming the victim of an assault?? Come on. If, like any normal person would have done, MMs wife would have simply moved the car to another spot when she was informed that she was in a handicapped space, this wouldn't have happened. But I have seen this before, and I believe SHE was the one that got belligerent. I don't think she mistakenly parked in that spot either, she parked there because she and her husband have no respect for anybody else in this world. MM had no right to assault MD either. So by the time MM was shot he'd already broken two laws, and although you might find him irritating, MD had done absolutely nothing wrong.

 

[andreww]

No it was a shove.Forceful but still a shove.IMO

Because you know more than the police department right?

 

[andreww]

How about not harassing women and children? Did it help him feel masculine to harass and verbally attack a woman and her child. <modsnip>

Come on, watch the video. D looks to be very calm. His hands are at his side and the only pointing he is doing is when he points to alternative parking spots. If you are going to try and say that D was being menacing and aggressive to the wife, answer me this, why does she get out of the car and stand in front of him? Seems that would be the one thing that you wouldn't do if a "crazy" was actually verbally assaulting you.

In my opinion D looked to be very calm, rational and non threatening as possible when speaking to the wife. He maintains his distance from the car and looks very relaxed in his mannerisms.

 

[LeeAnnB]

It’s outrageous that there are people who believe murder is an acceptable form of conflict resolution. .

 

[Trident]

It’s outrageous that there are people who believe murder is an acceptable form of conflict resolution. .

Or physical assault.

 

[andreww]

Lets talk about the family's attorney who claims that MD waited four seconds before shooting. This is simply not true.

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In this video it is clear that the assault occurs at 1:42 (MD still on feet, hasn't hit pavement).

At 1:43 MD is on the pavement sitting up, this is when the clock starts ticking on his decision making process.

At 1:44 MD's right hand is clearly reaching for the gun...

and at 1:45 is in the firing position.

There is no delay here and his actions were as swift as can be expected under the circumstances.

Now replay the video and focus on MMs movements. The assault occurs at 1:42 (MD still on feet, hasn't hit pavement). At 1:43 MM takes a step forward, then another. At 1:44 he pulls up at his waistband of his pants. and it isn't until MD reaches for his gun does he begin to retreat. This clearly shows that after the assault MM continued to advance on MD and he was justified in feeling threatened.

One last thing to point out, at 1:35 MM exits the store. At 1:38 the wive spots him coming and begins to exit the car. By 1:41 She is fully out of the car and MD has is facing her. He does not react to MMs approach and was obviously blindsided by the assault. He also may not have even know of the existence of MM.

IMO when MD sat up on the pavement after beam pummelled by MM, his reaction was justified. This was likely the first he saw of MM and he had no way of knowing his relationship to the people in the car. MM violently assaulted him, then advanced on him. Case closed.

 

[andreww]

It’s outrageous that there are people who believe murder is an acceptable form of conflict resolution. .

I've never said that, and I do not agree with Florida's "Stand your ground" law. But that is not the point here. The point is whether MD committed a crime here? Given the laws that are in place and the video evidence of what happened, it is clear that he didn't.

 

[Wagtales10]

Come on, watch the video. D looks to be very calm. His hands are at his side and the only pointing he is doing is when he points to alternative parking spots. If you are going to try and say that D was being menacing and aggressive to the wife, answer me this, why does she get out of the car and stand in front of him? Seems that would be the one thing that you wouldn't do if a "crazy" was actually verbally assaulting you.

In my opinion D looked to be very calm, rational and non threatening as possible when speaking to the wife. He maintains his distance from the car and looks very relaxed in his mannerisms.

That is the opposite of what has actually been reported. Drejka has harassed and threatened to shoot other people before and it was reported it was an intense altercation between Murderer Drejka and Jacobs

<modsnip>

 

[glamourkitty1922]

It’s outrageous that there are people who believe murder is an acceptable form of conflict resolution. .

I know what you mean. Luckily the victim was armed so murder was avoided. What kind of monster attacks someone for telling someone else they're in a handicapped space?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

That is the opposite of what has actually been reported. Drejka has harassed and threatened to shoot other people before and it was reported it was an intense altercation between Murderer Drejka and Jacobs

<modsnip>

Couldn't have happened that way since that kind of behavior ends up with someone losing their CCW permit. No, the only person who was dangerous was MM.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

How can you say D wasn’t but the woman was? <modsnip>

Because the video shows no evidence of D screaming or acting aggressive. So if there was someone screaming, it had to be the woman in the car.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

No, it wasn't from behind. Markeis approaches from the side and MD turns to face Markeis. Markeis shoves him from the front in the upper area of his body. MD landed on his buttocks which couldn't have happened if he had been shoved from behind.
And IMO,Markeis was protecting his family from an irate stranger.
If you missed these details what else did you miss from watching the video.
Done. I have given my opinion based on what I saw from the video

You know that's coming up from behind. Did M give D warning that he was about to attack? No, because he didn't give D warning that he was even there. That is called attacking someone behind their back, and is a cowardly move.

 

[andreww]

Its funny what you pick up on the more times you watch the video. Look at the beginning. MD looks at the front and back plates, says something over his shoulder, then begins to walk away. He actually has walked all the way on to the sidewalk when the wife draws him back in to it. So who exactly is the protagonist?

 

[andreww]

You know that's coming up from behind. Did M give D warning that he was about to attack? No, because he didn't give D warning that he was even there. That is called attacking someone behind their back, and is a cowardly move.

Although MD is sideways to MM, his eyes are focused on the wife who has exited the vehicle and is standing to his right. So it is undeniable that MD was blindsided.

 

[SeesSeas]

Because the video shows no evidence of D screaming or acting aggressive. So if there was someone screaming, it had to be the woman in the car.

With no audio of the incident, we don't know who said what or how loud or soft their voice was.
Below is an attorney/family interview which provides examples of Jacobs' voice at 3:50 and 17:50. I'll just say the loud aspect of her voice is a lot higher volume than me, my family, and most people I associate with.
I cringe when watching this because I notice that she isn't getting comfort from her boyfriend's relatives. Sad situation for all.

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Tampa Bay Times was live.
July 24 at 1:01 PM ·
Clearwater attorney Michele Rayner and the family of Markeis McGlockton, the 28-year-old man shot in a fight over a parking space, will hold a news conference.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

The police say the bullet went into the chest, "witnesses" claimed the bullet hit his stomach, now "witnesses" claim the bullet hit him in the side. I think we need to just ignore the "witnesses" and wait for the official autopsy reports.