FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

[flourish]

The appropriate action is to photograph the offending vehicle including license plate and allow actual law enforcement officers to do their job.

 

[kimlynn]

The way I see it, if a person decides to live their life on the wrong side of the law, they risk something like this happening. Just like if you ignore traffic laws, it might not end up well for you. MM broke two laws in the span of a few minutes, one of which was probably a felony. Thats the chance he took and I really have very little sympathy for him. You talk about privilege yet you seem to ignore the fact that MM used his size to solve his problems. He slammed a man to the ground because his idiot of a wife wouldn't take her lumps and move to a space that she was actually entitled to be in. Quit making excuses for people that break the law, but I see you're an attorney, thats just what you do.

And what you seem to be missing is MD had no authority to see that she "took her lumps"
What right did he think he had that he could approach and she would obey him?
I know the response will be the right of every citizen to call out wrong doing but IMO this is why we have LE so we don't have these public displays of people brawling with each other. IMO

 

[andreww]

What would you do?

I would have diffused the situation. "Whats going on here?" "Sorry, I didn't notice the spot was handicapped." "Won't happen again." "Thanks for pointing it out".

But whatever, you can't even admit that MM overreacted and used violence instead of using words. When MM came out of that store MD was at least 3 feet from the car and his girlfriend was safely inside. There was absolutely no threat.

And in that video you see several people coming and going from the store, and none made more than a casual glance at the incident. You think if MD was being "crazy" and "threatening" to a woman with children, that none of those people would step in? But, no. Nobody even stops to see whats going on. Nobody comes out of the store to see whats happening. No there isn't audio on the tape, but there are many things that give you a pretty good idea of what is happening.

 

[Hraefn]

if you see something, say something. that's all md did. he stood up for the rights of the handicapped.

I appreciate that sentiment but it can be very dangerous to confront someone directly (obviously there are exceptions like during an active shooting sometimes confrontation can be heroic). I don't think the campaign is about saying something to that person, but rather reporting it to law enforcement and other appropriate authorities.

Across the country, in our communities, we share everyday moments with our neighbors, family, coworkers, and friends. We go to work or school, the grocery store, or the gas station. It's easy to overlook these routine moments, but as you’re going about your day if you see something that doesn't seem quite right, say something. By being alert and reporting suspicious activity to your local law enforcement you can protect your family, neighbors, and community.

If You See Something, Say Something®
BBM

 

[andreww]

And what you seem to be missing is MD had no authority to see that she "took her lumps"
What right did he think he had that he could approach and she would obey him?
I know the response will be the right of every citizen to call out wrong doing but IMO this is why we have LE so we don't have these public displays of people brawling with each other. IMO

Seriously? This was at a convenience store. The guy is going to be gone in a couple of minutes. What good would calling the cops do?

 

[flourish]

This is just so amazing.
a) Every one has broken a law at one point in time. It's illegal not to smile in public in my hometown. Better lock me up! So this holier than thou sanctimonious attitude needs to just stop.
b) I've worked with people with disabilities for my entire working life, and have close family members who have disabilities. I see all this "support" now, but it's noticeably absent in the real world.
c) This isn't over a handicapped parking spot. It's about power. Parking lot vigilante obviously feels a lack of power in his daily life and therefore seeks to attain it in other ways, like patrolling handicap spots.

I encourage people to google and find your local ARC agency or other agency which works with people with disabilities. Volunteer, attend an event, walk the walk every day.

People with disabilities need the community's support every day, not just lip service as a token project because it supports one's opinion of the legal murder aka SYG laws.

 

[andreww]

I appreciate that sentiment but it can be very dangerous to confront someone directly (obviously there are exceptions like during an active shooting sometimes confrontation can be heroic). I don't think the campaign is about saying something to that person, but rather reporting it to law enforcement and other appropriate authorities.
If You See Something, Say Something®
BBM

But whether you agree with what he did or not (you don't), the fact remains that he did nothing wrong. Nothing.

 

[Hraefn]

I would have diffused the situation. "Whats going on here?" "Sorry, I didn't notice the spot was handicapped." "Won't happen again." "Thanks for pointing it out".

But whatever, you can't even admit that MM overreacted and used violence instead of using words. When MM came out of that store MD was at least 3 feet from the car and his girlfriend was safely inside. There was absolutely no threat.

And in that video you see several people coming and going from the store, and none made more than a casual glance at the incident. You think if MD was being "crazy" and "threatening" to a woman with children, that none of those people would step in? But, no. Nobody even stops to see whats going on. Nobody comes out of the store to see whats happening. No there isn't audio on the tape, but there are many things that give you a pretty good idea of what is happening.

There were several news stories that said multiple people went in to tell the store clerks about the incident, rather than risk confronting anyone directly. I do think that if MD was acting crazy and threatening that most people would ignore it to protect themselves and report it to an authority. And that's what reportedly happened. If they had confronted him directly they could also be buried in the ground right now.

 

[kimlynn]

Seriously? This was at a convenience store. The guy is going to be gone in a couple of minutes. What good would calling the cops do?

Well we see the result of not calling LE. In your opinion would calling LE had a better end result?
Better yet go tell the store manager.Take a picture (as flourish) suggested.
No one ends up with a bruised keister or bruised ego and a father would still be alive.

 

[cybervampira]

Saying ”You‘re in a f**king handicapped spot” is an approach where most people will not respond kindly, even if they know they are in a f**king handicapped spot. I‘d say that to my best friend but not to a stranger. D was rude and provocative and I bet 99% of the people defending this trigger-happy wannabe cop wouldn‘t just say ”Oh, sorry, Sir, you‘re right!“ if some jackass approached them like that.

 

[Jennifer17]

Seriously? This was at a convenience store. The guy is going to be gone in a couple of minutes. What good would calling the cops do?

And so was MM going to be gone in a couple of minutes, the car was idling.

 

[Hraefn]

oh high and mighty, you who sit in high judgment from afar and deem what is "appropriate" and what isn't!

if I was knocked to the ground with no warning where my feet left the ground and landed on hard concrete pavement, I would defend myself, especially if the assailant kept on advancing on me, looking like he would swing. no matter the color.

 

[andreww]

This is just so amazing.
a) Every one has broken a law at one point in time. It's illegal not to smile in public in my hometown. Better lock me up! So this holier than thou sanctimonious attitude needs to just stop.
b) I've worked with people with disabilities for my entire working life, and have close family members who have disabilities. I see all this "support" now, but it's noticeably absent in the real world.
c) This isn't over a handicapped parking spot. It's about power. Parking lot vigilante obviously feels a lack of power in his daily life and therefore seeks to attain it in other ways, like patrolling handicap spots.

I encourage people to google and find your local ARC agency or other agency which works with people with disabilities. Volunteer, attend an event, walk the walk every day.

People with disabilities need the community's support every day, not just lip service as a token project because it supports one's opinion of the legal murder aka SYG laws.

Yes people sometimes mistakenly break laws. Parking in a handicapped space, I can forgive that. Pummelling someone half your size to the ground is inexcusable.

 

[flourish]

And so was MM going to be gone in a couple of minutes, the car was idling.

Take a photo and send to local law enforcement.

 

[flourish]

Yes people sometimes mistakenly break laws. Parking in a handicapped space, I can forgive that. Pummelling someone half your size to the ground is inexcusable.

So it's not about the parking spot.

 

[Hraefn]

Seriously? This was at a convenience store. The guy is going to be gone in a couple of minutes. What good would calling the cops do?

What good does yelling at strangers do? It starts a confrontation that can lead to violence.
The driver was still in the driver's seat. The car was still running. We can't assume that if someone else had needed the spot, the vehicle would not have been moved. IMO it was senseless and dangerous to start a confrontation and conflict in this situation.

 

[Hraefn]

But whether you agree with what he did or not (you don't), the fact remains that he did nothing wrong. Nothing.

In my opinion he did something very wrong, the ultimate wrong. He escalated non-deadly force to deadly force and took a life of a man in front of his children and girlfriend without justification.
I am anxious for the DOJ to open an investigation, and now that I see the video going more and more viral on social media I am increasingly confident it may happen.

 

[Jennifer17]

Yes people sometimes mistakenly break laws. Parking in a handicapped space, I can forgive that. Pummelling someone half your size to the ground is inexcusable.

Pummelling?
pummel
ˈpʌm(ə)l/
verb

1. strike repeatedly with the fists.
   "he felt like a boxer who had been pummelled mercilessly against the ropes"

Was he pummelled? He was pushed over.

 

[andreww]

So it's not about the parking spot.

Ive said that from the beginning. MMs decision to pummel MD is what caused his death. Violence is never an acceptable option with the exception of defending yourself. And I know that you are going to say MM was defending his wife, but there was never any threat to her, her getting out of the car is proof of that.

 

[Jennifer17]

Ive said that from the beginning. MMs decision to pummel MD is what caused his death. Violence is never an acceptable option with the exception of defending yourself. And I know that you are going to say MM was defending his wife, but there was never any threat to her, her getting out of the car is proof of that.

Again, pummel means to repeatedly strike with the fists.