FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

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  • #501
reporting doesn't seem to help anymore IMO.
 
  • #502
I proudly stand up for the rights of the disabled and handicapped.
 
  • #503
I was diagnosed with MS almost 2 years ago. Some days ( not every day) I'm so tired at the end of a work day I can hardly put one foot in front of the other due to overwhelming fatigue. I could easily get a handicapped sign to hang from my rear view mirror for those days when I need to stop at a store on my way home. The reason I dont get one is because of parking lot vigilantes like MD who feel they have the right to police the handicapped parking stalls. I don't have a "visible" disability so it's people like MD who has a gun or a snide remark from a middle aged purple woman that keep me from having something that would make my life easier some days. I chose not to put myself in the "line of fire". There are too many mentally ill people out there that aren't compliant with their medications.

Can I get a "bless your heart" @flourish :D
 
  • #504
"Retaliation mode"?? What's that? D was defending himself. The fact that he kept pointing the gun of his aggressor tells me was in mortal fear. If he was "retaliating," as you suggest, why didn't he fire more than once?

Dude - I was born and raised in Texas. I know this event happened in Florida, but I have lifelong experience with gun-totin' folks who don't take s**t from no one if they truly believed they were about to be killed by a so-called lunatic. Don't tell me that a so-called "victim" who claimed to be in fear of his life fired only one round. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

When someone is in fear of their life, that person will keep firing til they are convinced that the threat to their life is ended.

Drejka fired one shot because he's a coward who was using his CCW as an excuse to commit murder. He was waiting for the day, if not orchestrating the opportunity, <modsnipped racial comment>
 
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  • #505
I was diagnosed with MS almost 2 years ago. Some days ( not every day) I'm so tired at the end of a work day I can hardly put one foot in front of the other due to overwhelming fatigue. I could easily get a handicapped sign to hang from my rear view mirror for those days when I need to stop at a store on my way home. The reason I dont get one is because of parking lot vigilantes like MD who feel they have the right to police the handicapped parking stalls. I don't have a "visible" disability so it's people like MD who has a gun or a snide remark from a middle aged purple woman that keep me from having something that would make my life easier some days. I chose not to put myself in the "line of fire". There are too many mentally ill people out there that aren't compliant with their medications.

Can I get a "bless your heart" @flourish :D

I'm also eligible for a handicapped sticker. I don't get one because I refuse to think of myself as handicapped, but I know what you mean about every step being a struggle. I have heart disease and COPD. I also suffer from problems with my feet, so bad I can hardly walk at times. My point is this: I have parked in handicapped spaces on occasion. I have had people look at my strangely. One lady drove by me several times, checking me out, I guess. The thing is, I knew I was wrong. I did not have a sticker and I was violating the law. If she had stopped and called me on it, I would have moved my car. I do know right from wrong, and I would have been wrong.

What I don't understand is why other people can't admit it when they're wrong and do the right thing. It would make all of our lives so much better.
 
  • #506
I'm sick of hearing about the "handicapped" sticker being used as an excuse for Drejka to to be painted as the so-called "victim".

SYG doesn't give him the right to kill someone after being shoved to the ground. IMO, Drejka didn't respond with equal force.

If the Florida AG has any integrity, this case will be brought before a Grand Jury.
 
  • #507
I'm sick of hearing about the "handicapped" sticker being used as an excuse for Drejka to to be painted as the so-called "victim".

SYG doesn't give him the right to kill someone after being shoved to the ground. IMO, Drejka didn't respond with equal force.

If the Florida AG has any integrity, this case will be brought before a Grand Jury.

I'm sorry you're "SICK" of hearing about the handicapped sticker. These stickers you're so sick of mean a great deal to many people and when the spaces put aside for them are misused, it can make lives unnecessarily miserable. God forbid anyone should have to "hear" about it.

As for being "shoved" to the ground, it was a violent take down by a violent man. Yes, Drejka was/is a victim IMO. And, if the DA has any integrity, he'll stick to the law and not be swayed by threats of violence or out of control emotions. IMO
 
  • #508
I'm sorry you're "SICK" of hearing about the handicapped sticker. These stickers you're so sick of mean a great deal to many people and when the spaces put aside for them are misused, it can make lives unnecessarily miserable. God forbid anyone should have to "hear" about it.

As for being "shoved" to the ground, it was a violent take down by a violent man. Yes, Drejka was/is a victim IMO. And, if the DA has any integrity, he'll stick to the law and not be swayed by threats of violence or out of control emotions. IMO
They’re sick of it being used as an excuse, not sick of the stickers. All of us have been empathetic regarding the unlawful parking and have shown respect for the handicapped. We all know someone, love someone, or are someone who needs handicap accommodations.
 
  • #509
I'm sorry you're "SICK" of hearing about the handicapped sticker. These stickers you're so sick of mean a great deal to many people and when the spaces put aside for them are misused, it can make lives unnecessarily miserable. God forbid anyone should have to "hear" about it.

As for being "shoved" to the ground, it was a violent take down by a violent man. Yes, Drejka was/is a victim IMO. And, if the DA has any integrity, he'll stick to the law and not be swayed by threats of violence or out of control emotions. IMO
I have family and friends who rely on handicapped parking spaces, but I will tell you this: Not a single one of them would shoot and kill someone over that parking space, nor would any of them endorse the shooting and killing of anyone over a handicapped parking space.

So, in return, I must question why you or anyone else should be sick of hearing about my outrage about those who seem to excuse the shooting death of Mr. McGlockton. Unless you endorse someone being shot & killed over a handicapped parking space.

Children have been robbed of their father. A woman has been robbed of her partner.

A man has been killed.

Does that mean nothing to you?
 
  • #510
The sticker is not an "excuse", it was the catalyst that started this whole thing.
 
  • #511
Dude - I was born and raised in Texas. I know this event happened in Florida, but I have lifelong experience with gun-totin' folks who don't take s**t from no one if they truly believed they were about to be killed by a so-called lunatic. Don't tell me that a so-called "victim" who claimed to be in fear of his life fired only one round. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

When someone is in fear of their life, that person will keep firing til they are convinced that the threat to their life is ended.

Drejka fired one shot because he's a coward who was using his CCW as an excuse to commit murder. He was waiting for the day, if not orchestrating the opportunity, to kill someone - especially someone who fit the descry


Dude - I was born and raised in Texas. I know this event happened in Florida, but I have lifelong experience with gun-totin' folks who don't take s**t from no one if they truly believed they were about to be killed by a so-called lunatic. Don't tell me that a so-called "victim" who claimed to be in fear of his life fired only one round. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

When someone is in fear of their life, that person will keep firing til they are convinced that the threat to their life is ended.

Drejka fired one shot because he's a coward who was using his CCW as an excuse to commit murder. He was waiting for the day, if not orchestrating the opportunity, <modsnipped racial comment>
Dude - I was born and raised in Texas. I know this event happened in Florida, but I have lifelong experience with gun-totin' folks who don't take s**t from no one if they truly believed they were about to be killed by a so-called lunatic. Don't tell me that a so-called "victim" who claimed to be in fear of his life fired only one round. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

When someone is in fear of their life, that person will keep firing til they are convinced that the threat to their life is ended.

Drejka fired one shot because he's a coward who was using his CCW as an excuse to commit murder. He was waiting for the day, if not orchestrating the opportunity, <modsnipped racial comment>

Gonna pull the cowboy card on me, are ya? Texan here, born and bred. And although I try not to have to state the obvious, in your case I must. Drejka didn't fire a second shot because his assailant was fleeing into a crowded store. But he was clearly prepared to fire again. The loss of life is regrettable, but when you assault someone, or commit a home invasion, etc, the law of our land allows you to defend yourself and your "castle." It's as American as baseball and apple pie.
 
  • #512
I have family and friends who rely on handicapped parking spaces, but I will tell you this: Not a single one of them would shoot and kill someone over that parking space, nor would any of them endorse the shooting and killing of anyone over a handicapped parking space.

So, in return, I must question why you or anyone else should be sick of hearing about my outrage about those who seem to excuse the shooting death of Mr. McGlockton. Unless you endorse someone being shot & killed over a handicapped parking space.

Children have been robbed of their father. A woman has been robbed of her partner.

A man has been killed.

Does that mean nothing to you?

To me it means an innocent man is still alive because he defended himself from a violent attack by a violent bully. Up until then there was no violence. Sorry the man's dead, but he started the violence by attacking Drejka, until then it was just talk.
 
  • #513
Gonna pull the cowboy card on me, are ya? Texan here, born and bred. And although I try not to have to state the obvious, in your case I must. Drejka didn't fire a second shot because his assailant was fleeing into a crowded store. But he was clearly prepared to fire again. The loss of life is regrettable, but when you assault someone, or commit a home invasion, etc, the law of our land allows you to defend yourself and your "castle." It's as American as baseball and apple pie.

Don't attempt to cast shame on my beloved home state as you try to strut your stuff by claiming that the unwarranted killing of an unarmed man was justified.

A true Texan would never abide that. A true Texan would never take that action, nor would he or she defend such an action.

I come from a looong line of loud and proud Texans. Where d'ya think the saying "Don't mess with Texas" comes from?

It comes from us - from those of us who carry the Texas heritage with integrity.
 
  • #514
I'm sorry you're "SICK" of hearing about the handicapped sticker. These stickers you're so sick of mean a great deal to many people and when the spaces put aside for them are misused, it can make lives unnecessarily miserable. God forbid anyone should have to "hear" about it.

As for being "shoved" to the ground, it was a violent take down by a violent man. Yes, Drejka was/is a victim IMO. And, if the DA has any integrity, he'll stick to the law and not be swayed by threats of violence or out of control emotions. IMO

Integrity is to uphold the spirit of the law which is self defense in excruciating circumstances. This was not. Drejka looked for a fight, got one, and became John Wayne for a moment and because he went out looking for a fight, much like Zimmerman, a father is dead. Something that 100% did not need to happen.
 
  • #515
Integrity is to uphold the spirit of the law which is self defense in excruciating circumstances. This was not. Drejka looked for a fight, got one, and became John Wayne for a moment and because he went out looking for a fight, much like Zimmerman, a father is dead. Something that 100% did not need to happen.

Everyone who refuses to lay down and let someone beat them to death is guilty? BS. And, NO, it did not need to happen if MM had kept his hands to himself.
 
  • #516
I think some of you would be wise to re-visit your kindergarten rhymes...ya know,
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." It might help you understand it all a lil' better
 
  • #517
Everyone who refuses to lay down and let someone beat them to death is guilty? BS. And, NO, it did not need to happen if MM had kept his hands to himself.
Beat them to death? It was a shove. A shove meant to keep MD away from the family of Markeis.IMO
 
  • #518
The sticker is not an "excuse", it was the catalyst that started this whole thing.
Nope. This was started by the person who refused to alert the proper authorities. IMO
 
  • #519
I think some of you would be wise to re-visit your kindergarten rhymes...ya know,
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." It might help you understand it all a lil' better

Comin' back with a "sticks and stones" defense ain't the best defense for shootin' bullets and killin' a man and depriving that man's children of his father and that man's woman of her life partner.

Seriously? A man is dead. Do you not get that?
 
  • #520
Everyone who refuses to lay down and let someone beat them to death is guilty? BS. And, NO, it did not need to happen if MM had kept his hands to himself.

Let's get real here. He wasn't being "beaten to death". He was forcefully shoved to the ground.

McGlockton pushed Drejka and Drejka fell to the ground. He wasn't "beating him to death" nor was McGlockton attempting to "beat him to death".
 
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