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If wife goes to prison will murderer's son go to extremist father in law? Is her family here? Is she American?
All media are doing her invovmment in a sneaky way, imo. She was with him when he picked up some ammuntion. If this happened a month ago vs last week is there a difference. I think so.
people that are sick say all kinds of things, when agitated. Of course the intial reaction is to say please dont go kill a bunch of people.
The context is ,imo, important - espcecially when dealing with someone who is unstable. As far reports thus far, its all vague.
There has been no verifiable "quote" to acknowledge that she was aware that he was going to the Pulse , in Orlando, this Sat night to kill as many as he can.
To me at this point, it seems like the media is taking stuff that is normal (relativily speaking) . She went with him for some bullets.
The only real concrete data we have is according to his first wife was he was very emotionially unstable. He could become very violent quickly. His wife described him as bipolar, while reproting no serious religious affilation.
The only real concrete quote we have is from the guy he worked with, who quit becasue he was behaving so horribly . He was texting this guy tons of time a day.
The only concrete quotes we have are from some folks in the club that stated he could really be nasty when buzzed.
The only quote we have is that he pulled a knife on someone.
All of these desriptions, IMO, sound much more like we are talking about mental illiness/behavoior as oppossed to this radicalized terrorist.
The I know the Boston Marathon bombers, sound more mental than this terrorist.
The survivor who described him, in the bathroom, chuckling after he shot someone , again sounds like mental.
No one has reported him runnning around yelling his faith around, like we have seen in the past.
He was shot to death - he did not die in some cause for a , for lack of a better word , for his comrades.
In his apt they found two books related to that culture.
He was born here, acclimated to the custums it would seem. He assimilated.
We have no "proof" of this big mosque attendance.
The compliants where the FBI were involved were dsecribed as bigotted - and about woman and africian americans, not Westerners.
He had obsessive thought about becoming a New York police officer (shirts)
I found the Star Wars stuff somewhat juvinile, if his child was older it might be about the child.
He ended up spending his last night holed up in bathroom, cowering. This is IMO, and individual, who I assme had been drinking, make an impulsive choice, and went to his car, got the guns and proceeded.
Cant recall, has their ever been a authentic terroirist attack , baed on idealogical beliefs, wherein the perp talks on a phone for three hours??
His final moments he was trying to escape...................................
authentic terrorists omo, have no concern if they live or die ... there is "cause" based behaviors which endorse an afterlife.
It just seems as if one takes a step back, and focuses only on the quotes we have gotten, thus far, from people who knew and interacted with him ;the picture we get is much more vivid in the mental health arena than terror
moo
I no longer live in the US. The reports of refugees doing rapes are fueled by a resurgence of Neo Nazi and anti immigration groups. If you wish, you can search online for your own sources.
What is his message? "I am a severely disturbed person that kills "?
There we go , CNN is now pulling back -- saying she asked him not to do anything violent
There is zero information that she knew anything specfic about anything, he had a violent past
Interesting that he considers Afghanistan HIS COUNTRY and not the place where he was born. Kind of nullifies all of the arguments about him being an Amercan Born Citizen and all that.
If wife goes to prison will murderer's son go to extremist father in law? Is her family here? Is she American?
well not really, he was born here so he cant just be deported. as despicable as he was.
Breaking News on Fox
Shooter definitely scouted Disneyland Springs (Downtown) significantly and this scouting was done well before the shooting. He WAS scouting these place for awhile. It wasn't said specifally how long he scouted... just what it was "well before the shooting".
Not just a gay attack.
well not really, he was born here so he cant just be deported. as despicable as he was.
Why they would charge the wife with misprison is beyond me. It isn't even used in the US even though it is a law. Here's more about it.
more
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Misprision+of+felony
What about Michael Fortier and the Oklahoma City bombing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing#Michael_Fortier
Michael Fortier
Michael and Lori Fortier were considered accomplices for their foreknowledge of the planning of the bombing. In addition to Michael assisting McVeigh in scouting the federal building, Lori had helped McVeigh laminate a fake driver's license which was later used to rent the Ryder truck.[41] Michael agreed to testify against McVeigh and Nichols in exchange for a reduced sentence and immunity for his wife.[184] He was sentenced on May 27, 1998 to twelve years in prison and fined $75,000 for failing to warn authorities about the attack.[185] On January 20, 2006, after serving ten and a half years of his sentence, including time already served, Fortier was released for good behavior into the Witness Protection Program and given a new identity.
What about Michael Fortier and the Oklahoma City bombing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing#Michael_Fortier
Michael Fortier
Michael and Lori Fortier were considered accomplices for their foreknowledge of the planning of the bombing. In addition to Michael assisting McVeigh in scouting the federal building, Lori had helped McVeigh laminate a fake driver's license which was later used to rent the Ryder truck.[41] Michael agreed to testify against McVeigh and Nichols in exchange for a reduced sentence and immunity for his wife.[184] He was sentenced on May 27, 1998 to twelve years in prison and fined $75,000 for failing to warn authorities about the attack.[185] On January 20, 2006, after serving ten and a half years of his sentence, including time already served, Fortier was released for good behavior into the Witness Protection Program and given a new identity.
If wife goes to prison will murderer's son go to extremist father in law? Is her family here? Is she American?
And changes nothing as to other rights he held as a US citizen, including the freedom to choose his religion, as repugnant as it might be to some folks.
God bless the First Amendment.![]()
Unless he was waiting for Gay Days 2016--- https://www.gaydays.com/Guide-to-Gay-Days/guide-to-gay-days.html
An estimated 50,000 red-shirted Gay Days attendees pack Walt Disney World's original park on that 1st Saturday in June.