FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse Nightclub, Orlando 12 June 2016 #4

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Unfortunately all of these barbaric ways to murder are carried out by jihadists. They believe what they believe no matter how sadistic and perverse we view it. The laws in many middle eastern countries concerning homosexuality being punishable by death is based on their Muslim religion and beliefs. So it isn't just terrorists who believe in murder or advocates for it to happen, but anyone who kills someone because of their sexual orientation is a murderer.

It is one of the strangest religions I have ever read about. I still have no clue why anyone would want to follow a Profit who tells people they are to murder others. Why wouldn't they want a loving God? A God of forgiveness for all? I just don't think I will ever understand it and then knowing Imams are teaching this type of hate right here is even more mindboggling that it is allowed.

Why do you think Congress ignored gay rights and federal jobs? Why the hoopla over public restrooms and marriage here?
 
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If they were familiar with the language then presumably they would have known what language it was and what was said.
Seems like he did know the language, Arabic. Not sure if he could make out what was said. JMO
 
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Nope. Haven't missed a thing. Besides, the priests aren't using text from the Bible to excuse their pedophilia, they use the church to hide in. It sucks, it really does, but I would love for an example of a pedo priest sighting his religion as justification for pedophilia. Different from what I am saying.

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Not sure how they justify it. All I know is they do it and the church covers it up
 
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Not sure how they justify it. All I know is they do it and the church covers it up
No. I disagree, which is ok. What your saying is more in line with scouting, sports and other organizations where cowardly pedos hide. Not a religion that Radical Catholics use and twist to commit pedophilia. Let's agree to disagree because your comparisons are too vague and broad.

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Meh, if it's not isis, it's hezbollah, if it's not hezbollah it's the taliban. If not the taliban it's al qaeda. It's all the same ideology, just slight differences in interpretation. It's my belief that it's not a matter of radical Islam, it's all of islam. ‎Islam is a death cult built atop a political ideology dedicated to total world domination via mass immigration without assimilation (and submission through terror.) ‎

We arein deep doo doo then because there are 1.6 billion and if they mobilize, we are toast.
 
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CNN just did a lovely, heartbreaking tribute. Each Victims picture was shown while Family/friends commented on their loved one. I hope they are looking down and smiling at the out pouring of love shown. I only wish they had felt a bit more of that in life. The support from Community and beyond is amazing. My thoughts are also with those who survived. Such a long road ahead to some kind of new normal.
 
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Per CNN the FBI visited the Mosque where the killer had...........worshipped does not seem appropriate.
 
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We arein deep doo doo then because there are 1.6 billion and if they mobilize, we are toast.
We are.

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Seems like he did know the language, Arabic. Not sure if he could make out what was said. JMO

He never said Arabic - he said "foreign"
 
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You must have missed all of the exposes of priests and pastors, etc. with child sex sbuse. I know the man who the courage to expose a pastor in my city was totally ostracized and villified by the church when he reported

I am not sure what that has to do with a Islamic terrorist beliefs though, Human.

I don't think anyone has missed that pedophiles have been in all types of churches. When trials of this nature comes up the offender/s are crushed into the ground here, rightly so. But the difference here is the Priest, Pastor or whatever they are called are labeled as the offenders and punished severely under our laws. The victims of those pedophiles certainly aren't killed by our government if a pedophile raped the same gender as they happened to be. Nor do we give a punishment of death to any gay person either just because of their sexual orientation. I would report anyone if I felt they were doing anything criminal. Being a man or woman of the cloth sure wouldn't stop me and I think most others would do the very same thing.

It is unbelievable that 10 middle eastern countries have the death penalty when it comes to homosexuals but they do and many Muslims here must believe the same thing. To say they don't just isn't logical.

We know the Muslims stance on homosexuality and infidels yet we seem to walk on eggshells even knowing their religion promotes hatred, bigotry, and violence.

And once again when something like this happens we see only a very few speak out against radical Muslim beliefs. Their silence is deafening at times.

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Muslim Organizations Raise Funds for Victims of Orlando Massacre.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...-raise-funds-victims-orlando-massacre-n593586



Led by the Florida branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-Florida), and supported by several Muslim organizations across the country, the "Muslims United for Victims of Pulse Shooting" campaign reached its first goal of $25,000 within hours, its second goal of $50,000 within two days, and is now approaching its third goal of $75,000. They will keep fundraising until Aug. 1.

"Our thoughts and prayers and condolences are with the victims of this heinous act," Hassan Shibly, executive director of CAIR-Florida said in a statement. "In this holy month of Ramadan many Muslims will be offering their fasting and prayers for them and their families. The vile criminal who perpetrated this does not represent Islam nor the American Muslim community. Muhammad Ali and his legacy do represent our goals and aspirations to better our society and the World; but not this repulsive ****."
 
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How many places did he own and how? He and his wife come from money, but in an article posted sbove, it says she had to save up to see her dying father. It does not sound like they gave her money.
 
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How many places did he own and how? He and his wife come from money, but in an article posted sbove, it says she had to save up to see her dying father. It does not sound like they gave her money.

I don't think he owned that whole house. He had a share in it and turned it over to his relatives for 10$.
 
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Can you post the reference again? Intotally missed it. I did not see it in the one above.

Wouldn't his wife have to sign off on a sale?

Just two months before the massacre at Orlando's Pulse nightclub, gunman Omar Mateen signed papers turning over his share of a house to relatives, court documents revealed Friday, in a sign the killer may have started to put his affairs in order ahead of his rampage.

The quitclaim deed transferred his interest in the Port St. Lucie house to his sister, Sabrina Abasin, and his brother-in-law, Mustafa Abasin, for just $10. The transfer, first reported by journalist Paul Sperry, was signed in April. Investigators said Mateen had been living in a different home in Fort Pierce.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/1...ndo-gunman-stalked-her-almost-decade-ago.html
 
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