GUILTY FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, murdered, Celebration, Jan 2020 #2

[Trebor5591]

Thank you everyone who recommended the podcast. It’s well done and good to hear from people who actually knew them before this horrible crime.

Do you have a link for the podcast, please?

 

[SpringDonut77]

Do you have a link for the podcast, please?

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[Marysmith]

The guy is extremely racist, to boot. IMO. That’s what I got out of his venomous tone with the prosecutor. Everything he answered was a sneer, as in, “who the heck do you think you are, asking me these stupid questions?” From experience, the extremity of his sneering doesn’t reflect misogyny (though for sure that’s in there), as much as racial bias. When I was listening, I suddenly conjured up the long and terrible history of how African Americans are spoken to. E.g. To Kill a Mockingbird, if I were to cite a movie representation of what I’m trying to explain.
Hearing people talk like that terrifies me; I always wonder what they’re about to do in the next few seconds, and to me, it always predicts violence.
Apologies if I seem to be explaining this with too soft a touch or awkwardly. Hearing people talk down like that makes me livid, but AFAIK ranting would not be compatible with TOS.

Yes, I think you’re right on that. He is a horrible human in every single way.

 

[Kecharaeq2]

DBM

 

[molly1255]

His attitude was very disrespectful. Agree, it seems to indicate racial bias and I also believe he has a real problem with women. Megan's Aunt spoke about how blew up Megan's phone when they had a girl's day out. Poor Megan.

He seems to think he has a very compelling story to tell and that story is that he is the victim of his wife's mental and physical instability. He would not just answer questions but wanted to control the courtroom with his "details". He was told to shut up how many times?

 

[Kecharaeq2]

His attitude was very disrespectful. Agree, it seems to indicate racial bias and I also believe he has a real problem with women. Megan's Aunt spoke about how blew up Megan's phone when they had a girl's day out. Poor Megan.

He seems to think he has a very compelling story to tell and that story is that he is the victim of his wife's mental and physical instability. He would not just answer questions but wanted to control the courtroom with his "details". He was told to shut up how many times?

Ok, I have a question, but I’m afraid that I’m going to sound dense asking it. Where are you all seeing racial bias? Personally, I’m caucasian and mentally, I was thinking of the prosecutor as caucasian as well. Admittedly, I try not to consider race and tend not to notice race unless it’s so obvious that I couldn’t miss it. I did notice that her complexion was a bit darker but Pinelle could be an Italian name. I’ve known Italians with darker/swarthier complexions. Upon taking a second look, I see that she could possibly be of Jewish decent but I would think that would be more of a religious bias. What am I missing?

 

[RickshawFan]

I have a hard time wrapping my head around the motive, too. If he killed them so that they would not discover that Daddy was a fraud and would not have to live with the shame of Daddy going to prison, and the embarrassment of Megan having to move out of the Disney home and go back to work...if it's really that simple, it's really hard to accept. I guess he just saw his family as an extension of himself and nothing more. Kind of cleaning house before going to the big house.

IMO he killed Megan first and then didn't want the kids, so he killed them, too.

I still can't get over the last name TODT, which means "death" in German.

 

[RickshawFan]

Ok, I have a question, but I’m afraid that I’m going to sound dense asking it. Where are you all seeing racial bias? Personally, I’m caucasian and mentally, I was thinking of the prosecutor as caucasian as well. Admittedly, I try not to consider race and tend not to notice race unless it’s so obvious that I couldn’t miss it. I did notice that her complexion was a bit darker but Pinelle could be an Italian name. I’ve known Italians with darker/swarthier complexions. Upon taking a second look, I see that she could possibly be of Jewish decent but I would think that would be more of a religious bias. What am I missing?

I actually hadn't seen the prosecutor when I wrote the bit about race. The prosecutor is not visible during his time on the stand. I might be mistaken, however, in my comment all that counts is what race HE thinks she is. He could have it all wrong.

 

[Kecharaeq2]

I actually hadn't seen the prosecutor when I wrote the bit about race. The prosecutor is not visible during his time on the stand. I might be mistaken, however, in my comment all that counts is what race HE thinks she is. He could have it all wrong.

True enough, it’s impossible to know exactly what he was thinking without asking and most likely if someone did ask, he’d go into a rant about how abused and mistreated he’s been. All I do know for sure is that I was expecting him to make a lunge for her at any second. He had some serious hate on, whatever caused it. I just felt like I was missing something.

 

[Marysmith]

Ok, I have a question, but I’m afraid that I’m going to sound dense asking it. Where are you all seeing racial bias? Personally, I’m caucasian and mentally, I was thinking of the prosecutor as caucasian as well. Admittedly, I try not to consider race and tend not to notice race unless it’s so obvious that I couldn’t miss it. I did notice that her complexion was a bit darker but Pinelle could be an Italian name. I’ve known Italians with darker/swarthier complexions. Upon taking a second look, I see that she could possibly be of Jewish decent but I would think that would be more of a religious bias. What am I missing?

I don’t think you’re missing anything. I think that’s the idea- that the prosecutor doesn’t look completely white…
ETA - I saw the comments afterwards after. To me the prosecutor looks like my child, who is mixed race.

 

[molly1255]

Ok, I have a question, but I’m afraid that I’m going to sound dense asking it. Where are you all seeing racial bias? Personally, I’m caucasian and mentally, I was thinking of the prosecutor as caucasian as well. Admittedly, I try not to consider race and tend not to notice race unless it’s so obvious that I couldn’t miss it. I did notice that her complexion was a bit darker but Pinelle could be an Italian name. I’ve known Italians with darker/swarthier complexions. Upon taking a second look, I see that she could possibly be of Jewish decent but I would think that would be more of a religious bias. What am I missing?

IMO, the level of contempt he exhibited toward the prosecutor seemed to go beyond misogyny. I don't know the ethnicities of the prosecutor, and it doesn't matter, but to someone like AT, if she is "ethnic" and female and she has a huge advantage over him in terms of power, he's going to have a real issue with that, IMO. He's used to being the boss of his family and his practice. She handled him very well when he attempted to take over when he was on the stand. She told him "you don't get to ask me questions". Loved it.

 

[RickshawFan]

IMO, the level of contempt he exhibited toward the prosecutor seemed to go beyond misogyny. I don't know the ethnicities of the prosecutor, and it doesn't matter, but to someone like AT, if she is "ethnic" and female and she has a huge advantage over him in terms of power, he's going to have a real issue with that, IMO. He's used to being the boss of his family and his practice. She handled him very well when he attempted to take over when he was on the stand. She told him "you don't get to ask me questions". Loved it.

Yes, you are capturing what I mean. I still haven't seen the prosecutor! And this is now a very interesting discussion. The way I heard him speaking to her made me assume that he's been in contexts where some people speak that way to others and this is some how okay. The obvious frame for that I have right now is racism. IME misogyny doesn't talk quite that way; obnoxious, yes, but not exactly that tone.
I did pick up that the prosecutor occasionally had an ethnic-y pronunciation for some words. I may be mistaken, but it gave me the idea to think about this whole issue. I am quite freaked out listening to him talk to her. Very scary.
And, so well put, @molly1255 , this idea that the prosecutor fills 2 boxes that would be anathema to him in a power position.
The prosecutor is great....Imagine getting this case wrapped up so quickly, all neat and tidy. Save the state $$$ because she cut to the chase, made the jurors happy because they got done so fast, made it all happen before one of the defense attorneys keels over and delays the whole shebang, and victory in such a BIG case with media attention, etc. She doesn't sound that old, and she'll be a legend!

I should clarify and say, though I didn't see the prosecutor in the tape, I saw her shoes. Gosh, how do women stand around in 6" heels all day? I resented every moment I had to wear "pumps" to the office.

If I've said something ignorant and insensitive when I reference race, someone please PM me...

 

[Marysmith]

I feel like Megan must have gone through absolute hell being married to him… probably was a huge relief to her that they lived apart most of the time.
It’s so scary that there are so many people wearing masks like he is. Definitely if he’s the star physiotherapist, coach, etc… he can keep his persona up but as soon as he’s confronted at all by anyone he thinks is lesser than him then his true self comes out. You can see that he likely had more respect for the police who were like him… then others that are a different sex, etc…

 

[riolove77]

I can’t express the number of times a defendant has elected to testify in their own defense and I’ve had to say “you don’t get to ask the questions, I do”. Defendants who choose to testify want to control the narrative and can’t stand when they are subject to cross examination. I had a defendant a few months ago who, after direct examination by his counsel, got up off the stand to leave lol. I was like just a minute sir…..

 

[Marysmith]

I can’t express the number of times a defendant has elected to testify in their own defense and I’ve had to say “you don’t get to ask the questions, I do”. Defendants who choose to testify want to control the narrative and can’t stand when they are subject to cross examination. I had a defendant a few months ago who, after direct examination by his counsel, got up off the stand to leave lol. I was like just a minute sir…..

Wow. And yikes!

 

[RickshawFan]

I feel like Megan must have gone through absolute hell being married to him… probably was a huge relief to her that they lived apart most of the time.
It’s so scary that there are so many people wearing masks like he is. Definitely if he’s the star physiotherapist, coach, etc… he can keep his persona up but as soon as he’s confronted at all by anyone he thinks is lesser than him then his true self comes out. You can see that he likely had more respect for the police who were like him… then others that are a different sex, etc…

So, right! Now that I think of it, the detectives in the interrogation room were white men. Maybe that’s why he spilled: he assumed a level of respect. They also mirrored his flatness. It’s like they were all colleagues or something and he’s getting debriefed.
(I only saw parts of one confession, but there seem to be three?)
Now that I think of it…The detectives were also more or less his age. Salt and pepper hair. Similar need to move belly protuberance when lowering into a chair.

On the other hand, the prosecution might not have got as quick a conviction if they’d had a white male do the cross, because his evil might not have shown except to cause sympathy at obvious mental illness. On the stand, he doesn’t seem mentally ill, but just evil, like someone who has to be put away ‘til the end of time.

 

[RickshawFan]

I can’t express the number of times a defendant has elected to testify in their own defense and I’ve had to say “you don’t get to ask the questions, I do”. Defendants who choose to testify want to control the narrative and can’t stand when they are subject to cross examination. I had a defendant a few months ago who, after direct examination by his counsel, got up off the stand to leave lol. I was like just a minute sir…..

@riolove77 Nancy Brophy is going to testify at her trial (romantic suspense mystery writer on trial for killing a well-known chef at his work kitchen). She’s very talk-y. Come help with your perspective!

OR - Dan Brophy, fatally shot at Oregon Culinary Institute, 2 June 2018 *Wife Arrested*

 

[NuttMegg]

Monivette Cordeiro
⁦‪@monivettec‬
They've been deliberating for more than six hours at this point and were at one point deadlocked.
4/14/22, 3:49 PM

⁦‪Monivette Cordeiro
@monivettec‬⁩
He is found guilty on all four charges of first-degree murder, as well as the animal cruelty charge.
4/14/22, 3:52 PM

Monivette Cordeiro
⁦‪@monivettec‬⁩

Todt was shaking his head as the verdict was read and is still shaking his head after the jury leaves the room.
4/14/22, 3:55 PM

Monivette Cordeiro
⁦‪@monivettec‬⁩
Judge Carsten says they will take a quick recess and go into sentencing.

The only punishment is life in prison.

Todt is not facing the death penalty, which is the other penalty for first-degree murder in Florida.

Another family-murdering scu mbag like Watts serving out his life in relative luxury at the public's expense. I missed this whole trial, but just today listened to his pathetic interview with LE, re how he took so long trying to kill himself. He just kept waking up, dang it, he REALLY meant to do it. IMO

 

[NuttMegg]

So, right! Now that I think of it, the detectives in the interrogation room were white men. Maybe that’s why he spilled: he assumed a level of respect. They also mirrored his flatness. It’s like they were all colleagues or something and he’s getting debriefed.
(I only saw parts of one confession, but there seem to be three?)
Now that I think of it…The detectives were also more or less his age. Salt and pepper hair. Similar need to move belly protuberance when lowering into a chair.

On the other hand, the prosecution might not have got as quick a conviction if they’d had a white male do the cross, because his evil might not have shown except to cause sympathy at obvious mental illness. On the stand, he doesn’t seem mentally ill, but just evil, like someone who has to be put away ‘til the end of time.

Did they let that interrogation tape into evidence in the trial?

 

[RickshawFan]

Did they let that interrogation tape into evidence in the trial?

Evidently, they let in 2 out of 3 confession tapes. I have no idea what the 3 are, let alone the 2.