FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #11

[Talina]

Has anyone mentioned this tip? I haven't seen it mentioned, but I may have overlooked it or it was quickly debunked. Thanks

"An Ocala resident stated that she followed the Hummer on highway 40, otherwise known as Silver Springs Bvld. She immediately recognized the Hummer due to the GLOW decal on the rear window. She remained behind the Hummer until she turned onto Highway 441 and the Hummer continued west toward I-75 which is about 6 miles from this intersection. " <~ claimed to have actually followed the Hummer owned by Michelle Parker on November 18th, the Friday after she was said to have gone missing

I bet that tip was found to not be accurate in short order since her Hummer was seen at the apt at 10:30pm 11/17 and police found it shortly after midnight on 11/18 at those same apts.

IMO

 

[SuziQ]

Has anyone mentioned this tip? I haven't seen it mentioned, but I may have overlooked it or it was quickly debunked. Thanks

"An Ocala resident stated that she followed the Hummer on highway 40, otherwise known as Silver Springs Bvld. She immediately recognized the Hummer due to the GLOW decal on the rear window. She remained behind the Hummer until she turned onto Highway 441 and the Hummer continued west toward I-75 which is about 6 miles from this intersection. " <~ claimed to have actually followed the Hummer owned by Michelle Parker on November 18th, the Friday after she was said to have gone missing

LE had found MP's Hummer by that time.

 

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[Cerebellum]

Respectfully snipped by me. I think it was not removed out of malice. Rather it is because it is a tip. I am looking for one post on there about a bus that was cut and pasted from one of the MSN forums. I think that they are monitoring everything closely. Anything that comes in that is a tip...they pass on to LE...I don't think they want tips just sitting on the FB page. JMO.

I remember seeing people post tips there. They were deleted but asked to either email the tip to the addy, contact LE directly or call Crimeline. They didn't want the tips to tip off anyone so they deleted them. If it were me that saw the Hummer, I would have those toll records in hand & march myself to either the OPD or email (w/ the attached epass logs) directly to the family explaining that I was blown off by Crimeline or whatever the situation may have been. JMO.

 

[4BB]

Thanks. It was a response to an article on another "blog" type site. I wouldn't consider it MSM and have seen no other mention of it. I don't think I can link it since it has no MSM credibility.

A lady wrote that she called in a tip that she felt was very important and has not received any call back. She is very certain that she saw that vehicle and that it still had the decals on. She's "ticked" that no one took her seriously.

Just wondering if this was already debunked. Got my answer. Thanks guys!

 

[SuziQ]

I am afraid to go there. They don't have mods like we do here at WS...ready to TO me if I get out of line emotionally. I would sooo lose it if I read that profanity on her site. Thanks for giving me the info. I wish I knew where these people meet...I would try to infiltrate and gather more info...yeah, that's me...superspy invisible!

Well that has been done in other cases down in the parking lot. (Hailey Dunn-Zahra Baker) There were some interesting results. I say ask a mod for advice and go for it.

 

[captdj]

So, discard all I've said but if the 408 Toll road cameras captured one image of MP Hummer near Alafaya anywhere close to 4pm then that speaks a lot louder than any testimony I could provide.

Hi Iron
I attached a map showing all the toll booths on 408 and 417 see page 11

There just arent any at Waterford- Alafaya exit as someone posted here earlier.

http://www.expresswayauthority.com/Corporate/oursystem/assets/TollFacilitiesReferenceManual.pdf

See page -11-

But your first thought was 417 at Lee Vista and there are some there...maybe this was the toll booth that the hummer was behind you.

Hope this help some... get the epass to be sure...

 

[Cerebellum]

Hi Iron
I attached a map showing all the toll booths on 408 and 417 see page 11

There just arent any at Waterford- Alafaya exit as someone posted here earlier.

http://www.expresswayauthority.com/Corporate/oursystem/assets/TollFacilitiesReferenceManual.pdf

See page -11-

But your first thought was 417 at Lee Vista and there are some there...maybe this was the toll booth that the hummer was behind you.

Hope this help some... get the epass to be sure...

Iron posted the details last night of the location that the Hummer was a few cars behind him a the light. It was at the intersection of the 408 off ramp & Alafaya. There isn't a toll plaza at this exit but he said they passed the one prior which I believe was Dean or Rouse. He said the vehicle actually passed him at that location in the epass lanes not the stop & pay things. Sorry to jump in, Iron, trying to save you some typing. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken or confused which is possible after only 2 hrs of sleep.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Respectfully snipped by me. I think it was not removed out of malice. Rather it is because it is a tip. I am looking for one post on there about a bus that was cut and pasted from one of the MSN forums. I think that they are monitoring everything closely. Anything that comes in that is a tip...they pass on to LE...I don't think they want tips just sitting on the FB page. JMO.

Are you referring to the spotting of Michelle on the bus the day of her disappearance?

 

[Bittiness39]

Are you referring to the spotting of Michelle on the bus the day of her disappearance?

Is it still there? I admit...I saw it earlier but not sure where on that page. It could be I was looking in the wrong place?

 

[Lark2]

Video of Michelle in July...she so resembles my daughter, am hoping they find her soon.

http://youtu.be/WLd861PyVPw

 

[Cerebellum]

Here is the link to Iron's post about the toll plaza they both passed. About a page later he talks about where they were at the traffic light when the Hummer was behind them. HTH.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #11

 

[Ironhorse]

Hi Iron
I attached a map showing all the toll booths on 408 and 417 see page 11

There just arent any at Waterford- Alafaya exit as someone posted here earlier.

http://www.expresswayauthority.com/Corporate/oursystem/assets/TollFacilitiesReferenceManual.pdf

See page -11-

But your first thought was 417 at Lee Vista and there are some there...maybe this was the toll booth that the hummer was behind you.

Hope this help some... get the epass to be sure...

I don't believe there is a toll at the eastbound Rouse Rd exit either... I suppose because one has to pass through a toll plaza right there near Dean Rd, they don't make you pay more for getting off at Rouse or Alafaya Trl?

No my first thought was never the 417 & Lee Vista it was an attempt to second guess myself. My first thought and the one I believe the most was my original impression. It had to be the 408 at Alafaya around 4pm.

Yes, I'm working on obtaining our company's epass data for that days travels. I have to wait for my Boss to get back to me about that as he's the only one with the account info... Now of course even once I get it that still won't confirm MP Hummer was there, it will only confirm I was there at such and such time... But I believe if camera footage can be reviewed in and around the time our company vehicle passes by there should be footage of MP Hummer just ahead of us by no more than a minutes lead time?

I've never asked anyone here on WS to take my word for it. I was simply saying if MP hummer is caught on film where I believe it to have been that says a lot more than any thing I could say.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Here's an updated list of the questions, with comments and notes.

Provisional Comments: Helpful observations without official verification
Notes: Information with some official verification that may help toward resolution
Verified: Answered using official verification (may include supplemental evidence)

1. Name and address of the twins’ daycare facility.
2. Time when MP picked up the twins from daycare.
3. What time did MP’s Hummer leave DS II’s condo?
4. Eyewitness or video of above?
5. When did DS II leave the condo in his own vehicle?
6. Did DS II know about his neighbor’s video camera?
7. Did neighbors of DS Sr. see vehicles arriving and leaving on 11/17 afternoon?
8. Location MP’s cell pinged for 4:26 PM “Waterford” text to brother.
9. When was MP supposed to meet boyfriend NM for dinner?
10. When did MP’s sister LE call DS II on 11/17, and what time did Yvonne call DS II 11/17 evening?
11. What numbers did she try and when (ie, cell, or land line at condo or Rose Av.)?
12. If Mrs. DS Sr. (TS) answered the call to Rose Av., what did she say to Yvonne in reference to why DS II couldn’t come to the phone?
13. When did DS II return Yvonne’s call, and from what number?
14. When did LE first contact DS II, and how?
15. Did LE search DS II’s condo on evening of 11/17, and when did DS II return to his condo from Rose Ave. evening of 11/17 to meet LE?
16. When he returned, were the twins with him, or did he leave them at DS Sr.’s house?
17. Was MP’s cell on the entire time up until it was powered down the evening of 11/17, and if it was powered on the entire time, was it moving around constantly (like in a car), or static in one or more locations? What locations have been noted for her cell between 3:18 PM and when it was powered down?
18. Additional unreleased videos or other electronic evidence to track the route of MP’s Hummer after 3:18 PM on 11/17.
19. Additional unreleased eyewitness accounts of Hummer movements around town after 3:18 PM.
20. Details of search warrant for DS Sr.'s house on Rose Ave.
21. What is MP’s boyfriend NM’s alibi for 11/17 afternoon, and where was he during the times in question?
22. Who else called or texted MP on 11/17 after 2:30 PM?
23. Did MP send or receive any texts or make or receive any calls to/from DS II on 11/16 or on 11/17 before 3:18 PM?
24. Did DS II’s cell ever leave his condo? If so, was his cell on the entire time, and if it was, what locations have been noted for his cell after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
25. Does DS Sr. own a cell? If so, was his cell on the entire time, and what locations have been noted for his cell after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
26. What if any evidence did LE find in and on the Hummer?
27. What fingerprints were on MP's Hummer and her purse and belongings?
28. If Dale's prints were found in her Hummer does he frequently get in her car?
29. Was the Hummer driver's seat set for MP or someone taller?
30. Were all the Hummer mirrors adjusted to the seat level? Whose fingerprints were on the mirror?
31. Was the Hummer recently washed?
32. Did the floor mats and wheel wells of the Hummer or other DS II/Sr. vehicles have any type of dirt mud or material that would possibly match up with a body of water that is nearby?
33. What if any evidence did LE find at the Rose Ave. house?
34. Did LE search DS II’s work van?
35. Did LE check DS II’s trash inside and out?
36. For 11/17 search of DS II’s condo, who arrived at the condo for the search first: LE or DS II?
37. If LE was there first, did DS II arrive in his truck & pull into the garage or did someone else drive him?
38. If DS II was already there when LE arrived, were there any other vehicles or persons there with him?
39. Does DS II own a bicycle, or have access to one at the Rose Avenue house?
40. Confirm ownership of a white van that appears in the condo neighbor’s video, and in a later interview with the neighbor. Is this van DS II’s or a neighbor’s? Provisional Comments: Interview shows larger white van in DS II’s driveway (Chevy), white van shown in neighbor’s video appears to be different make (Dodge?) (provided by Cerebellum, 12/4); the taillights and door handles are different (provided by Kimb103, 12/4)
41. Did DS II have his own car seats for the twins, or did DS II and MP share car seats?
42. Did the Hummer have child car seats when found?
43. Did/will LE search bodies of water near the parking lot where the Hummer was found?
44. Would it be possible and effective for LE to use heat sensors from helicopters, at night, to help in searches?
45. Has LE used or will they use metal detectors to aid in finding the cell phone during searches? Provisional Comments: LE located cell; see #78 for new questions
46. Where is DS II’s unit located within the condo, especially with respect to his neighbor RG’s camera? Verified: Orange County property records http://www.ocpafl.org/ indicate address as 6598 S. Goldenrod unit 98C, photos of DS II’s condo http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/AlwaysWright01/ show that unit C is on the right side, RG lives on the left side unit, and RG’s camera captures his parking area and a portion of the street to the northeast of his side of the unit (provided by AlwaysWright, 12/4)
47. If Carter Glen (DS II’s condo complex) has cameras or other devices at the north and south entrances and exits to the complex, did one or more capture any images or records of MP’s Hummer arriving and/or leaving on 11/17, along with time of arrival and departure? Provisional Comments: The gates to the complex are closed and require one of the following: (1) Enter a specific code to open gate (Guests given code by Homeowner); (2) Card or Gate Opener to open gate (Homeowner); (3) Use the directory to contact Homeowner so they can buzz you in using phone; (4) Follow a car that has been granted access. (provided by AlwaysWright, 12/5)
48. Did Carter Glen cameras or other devices capture any images or records of DS II’s vehicles arriving or leaving on 11/17 and 18, along with time of arrival and departure?
49. Did Carter Glen cameras or other devices, capture any images or records of DS II’s family vehicles arriving or leaving on 11/17?
50. Does DS Sr. have restrictions or physical disabilities that prevent him from being able to drive?
51. Did DS II spend the night of 11/17, after the LE search, at his condo?
52. What time did DS II leave his condo for work on Friday, 11/18?
53. What vehicle was he driving from his condo on 11/18 AM?
54. Did he make any stops to load work materials, change vehicles, etc. before leaving Orlando area?
55. What route did he take to reach Titusville?
56. What time did he arrive at his work destination in Titusville?
57. Address of work destination in Titusville?
58. What evidence has LE found at any warehouses, storage facilities, or other properties to which DS II or Sr. has access? Notes: Some properties owned by DS Jr, and Sr. now or in the past include 1982 Rose Blvd Home; 1984 Allied Roofing bORN - Listed as Rose Blvd Address; 2002 Lot & Unit at Sky Lake; 2005 Property off of Church St. no address just legal desc; 2005 Property at Pineway Drive - Sold the same year as aquired; 2007 Another property and unit on Sky Lake ; 2008 Condo in Carter Glen (provided by Angelonline, 12/04, per Orange Co Comptroller Records); http://paarcgis2.ocpafl.org/ObliqueView/default.aspx?pid=292229000000174 property at S. Mission Rd. off 526 belonging to DS Sr. (provided by Cerebellum, 12/7); LE search canal behind house owned by DS Sr. at 6806 Chaucer Ln. (occupied by DS Sr’s sister according to neighbors) on 12/9. Map of parcels owned by DS Sr. http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap2/...2322620803130|292326808707920|302323120597030 (Provided by Coldpizza, 12/9)
59. In the days or weeks prior to 11/17, did MP express to friends or family members any apprehension about or annoyance with someone she encountered at her workplace or elsewhere?
60. Does MP have a storage unit, and has this been checked for evidence by LE?
61. Stills from the neighbor’s video show two different dark SUV vehicles leaving at two different times on 11/17, ie 17:17 and 16:40 (5:17 PM and 4:40 PM). LE has reported that the Hummer leaving on the video at 16:40 belongs to a neighbor on the street, not MP. Is the other departing vehicle a Hummer, and does it belong to MP or to yet another neighbor? Provisional Comments: Hummer leaving at 16:40 appears to be a dark grey color (provided bynotmissing, 12/04) Black SUV leaving at 17:17 has a license plate centered on the back, which is different license plate placement than MP’s Hummer, which is left rear (provided by SmoothOperator, 12/6) Photos of 08 Hummers confirm the plates to be on the left rear. MP’s Hummer is thought to be an 08. (provided by taagean & SmoothOperator 12/6)
62. Activities, times, and other details, including calls and texts, demeanor, conversation topics, etc., of MP’s day on 11/17, beginning when she arises and ending with 3:18 PM arrival at DS II’s condo. Provisional Comments and Notes: NM and MP had coffee that morning, time unknown (provided by ?); apparently cheerful cell texts between MP and sister LE reveal that MP was going to the salon at 11:30 AM for a Keratin treatment by LE, and that MP was going shoe (?) shopping with her mother Yvonne within the hour before going to the salon. (Provided by SmoothOperator, 12/6)
63. In the video of the condo search, DS II’s truck is in the garage. Where is DS II's work van?
64. When did MP and NM meet face to face on 11/17, and when did they talk or text one another on their cells that day, other than the 3:15 text? Provisional Comments: NM and MP met for coffee in AM, time unknown.
65. When did NM try to contact MP (text or call her cell) after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
66. If incoming white van as recorded by neighbor’s video, (subsequently parked on the street) is that of a neighbor or visitor to the condos, what did the driver of that van observe relative to MP, DS II, the twins, and MP’s Hummer?
67. Did MP have any mobile tanning appointments on 11/17, and when? With new or established customers?
68. Was 11/17 a scheduled visitation day for DS II to take the twins? If not, what are the details of how and when this visitation was arranged?
69. Where did MP park the Hummer when she was dropping off the twins at DS II’s?
70. Was DS II’s garage open, or did MP go to the front door of the condo?
71. What vehicles were parked inside or in the driveway of DS II’s garage when MP arrived to drop off the twins?
72. Has LE searched or will they search Titusville areas, and possible route(s) from Orlando to Titusville, and what evidence was found, if any?
73. What time did MP’s 11 year old son arrive home from school on 11/17? Provisional Comments: MP’s sister LE said that the child usually got off the bus at around 3:30 PM
74. Did he try calling his mom, and what time(s) did he try calling her? Provisional Comments: MP’s sister LE said that the child usually called his mother when he got off the school bus.
75. Did anyone attempt to call or text MP between 3:18 and 4:26 on 11/17?
76. DS II’s neighbor with the cam was not home when MP arrived, and says he saw nothing when he did arrive home. What time did neighbor arrive home?
77. Other than DS II’s mother and father, who else received subpoenas as of 12/6?
78. Where, when and how was MP’s cell found? Provisional Comments: On 12/7, LE released news that MP’s cell was found, thrown in the water near Lake Conway from a bridge, although which of two possible bridges is uncertain at this time; Bob Kealing identifies correct bridge as on Nela 12/9.
79. On which side of the bridge was the cell found, to help determine direction car was traveling?
80. What, if any, is the forensic evidence recovered from the cell?
81. What data, if any, was recovered from the cell?
82. Did MP attempt to call eleven y o son around 3:30 on, on 11/17?
83. Have landfills been searched, and evidence found?
84. Did DS II take the twins to DS Sr.’s house on 11/17, and when did he leave his condo and arrive at the Rose Ave. house? Provisional Comments: DS II and his family say that he arrived at the Rose Ave. house at 4:30 PM.
85. Did DS II have a standard routine when he had the twins, and if so, did his actions/movement on 11/17 afternoon vary from that routine?
86. Will or have the twins been interviewed by LE, and if interviewed, what observations did they offer about what they remember from 11/17?
87. Did LE search DS II’s condo on evening of 11/18 (Fri). If so, details of search.
88. Details of where and when cadaver dogs have been used in this case, with evidence obtained.
89. Was the spare tire cover gone when the Hummer was found by LE?

Document if anyone prefers that:

Is this a test?
I think I got them all right! :crazy:

Seriously..this is an incredibly thorough, organized collection of questions.
Thank you for preparing this for us!

:gthanks:

 

[Cerebellum]

Video of Michelle in July...she so resembles my daughter, am hoping they find her soon.

http://youtu.be/WLd861PyVPw

She really truly is a beautiful girl. I just can't imagine someone wanting to hurt her. I just wish they would find her. It's just so awful not knowing.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Ok here is a thought. Would Dale he be stupid enough to keep Michelle's cell phone on while carrying out a crime? Or was the phone deliberately left on and given to someone else while he did something with evidence? Smoke and mirrors?

 

[4BB]

Is this info here somewhere? It seems Dale had occasional problems with his child support (just a snip of the file)

OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
08/18/2011 Notice of Need for Redirection
05/04/2011 Certified Notice of Delinquent Support
05/10/2010 Certified Notice of Delinquent Support
03/12/2010 Letter
regarding direct child support payments from

03/05/2010 Certified Notice of Delinquent Support
01/20/2010 Order for Income Deduction
Amended
01/15/2010 Notice of Hearing
1/20/2010 @ 8:30am


http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=2009278

 

[Bittiness39]

A tip for what? I'm not following you...

The post was referring to someone seeing Michelle on a bus leaving town under her own free will. here is what a family member had to say about that idea:

<modsnip>

I believe the post was deleted because it was proven false.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you. It happens with me all of the time. My thought process behind my post was...I do not believe that Michelle's family would delete any tip or post because they didn't want to believe it or think it was true. I think that they would pass all credible information along to LE. I don't think they are deleting things not relating to Dale because they want to nail him to the wall and are disregarding any possible other tip that could lead elsewhere.

I could also understand if they are wary of Dale's family and friends spreading disinformation (I am not saying they are or that they would...let's be clear on this) to muddy the waters to try and help him as he is the prime suspect.

I am sorry if I misunderstood you. It happens alot in this medium. :hero:

 

[telemag]

She really truly is a beautiful girl. I just can't imagine someone wanting to hurt her. I just wish they would find her. It's just so awful not knowing.

I don't think I can watch that video.

 

[katydid23]

Ok here is a thought. Would Dale he be stupid enough to keep Michelle's cell phone on while carrying out a crime? Or was the phone deliberately left on and given to someone else while he did something with evidence? Smoke and mirrors?

I think there were two vehicles being driven by different people. Someone was driving Dale's red truck and taking the kids to the grandparents home. I think the cell phone was in that truck as it went the same route, apparently.

Then someone had to be driving the Hummer, and it had to be moving away from his home before the pickup left for the grandparents, because otherwise the neighbors would have noticed if the Hummer was out front for 2 hours.

So maybe Grandpa drove the pickup, and dale drove the hummer to the dump site. OR a female accomplice drove the Hummer while Dale drove the kids to his folks house. imoo