FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #19

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There are numerous types of Narcissists, but they share a common thread, as in my previous post.

Here are some interesting facts and tidbits I have found on the subject.

I am not claiming to make a clinical diagnosis, nor am I claiming Dale is a Narcissist. I am, however, sharing data about Narcissism that people may find interesting.

With that said, I also am not claiming that Dale is NOT a Narcissist.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/abstractdb/AbstractDBDetails.aspx?id=191155
Abstract: A study authored by Baumeister and published in Scientific American in April 2001 confirmed that narcissism and not low self-esteem was central to battering. Baumeister and Bushman conducted studies of aggression in response to threatened egos, aggression against innocent bystanders, and narcissism among violent criminals. Results revealed that aggression was highest among narcissistic men who received insulting criticism in comparison to narcissists who had been praised and nonnarcissists, that violence against innocent bystanders was rare, and that violent criminals differed from other young adult males in their high narcissism scores. Another study conducted by Wilson and seven other researchers examined the effects of drugs and alcohol on physical violence and stalking in 180 cases where abused women had sought protective orders or assault charges. In addition, a Canadian study compared the perceptions of 333 recent victims of intimate partner violence with those of 7,374 nonvictims. Results revealed that alcohol use was not a significant predictor in wife assault compared to men’s sexism. The Canadian analysis concluded that men’s alcohol use was only a proxy for measuring other factors that far better predicted men’s violence against their female partners and that unemployment was a major predictor.

Does Dale demonstrate narcissism?

Narcissism is a term with a wide range of meanings, depending on whether it is used to describe a central concept of psychoanalytic theory, a mental illness, a social or cultural problem, or simply a personality trait. Except in the sense of primary narcissism or healthy self-love, "narcissism" usually is used to describe some kind of problem in a person or group's relationships with self and others. In everyday speech, "narcissism" often means egoism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others. In psychology, the term is used to describe both normal self-love and unhealthy self-absorption due to a disturbance in the sense of self.

In 1923, Martin Buber published an essay "Ich und Du" (I and Thou), in which he pointed out that our narcissism often leads us to relate to others as objects instead of as equals.
Since 2000, on psychological tests designed to detect narcissism, the scores of residents of the United States have continually increased. Psychologists have suggested a link to social networking.[4]

Traits and signs

Thomas suggests that narcissists typically display most, sometimes all, of the following traits:[5]
An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic)
Difficulty with empathy
Problems distinguishing the self from others (see narcissism and boundaries)
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury)
Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
Haughty body language
Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them (narcissistic supply)
Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
Pretending to be more important than they really are
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Denial of remorse and gratitude
[edit]Hotchkiss' seven deadly sins of narcissism
Hotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:[6]
Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person's ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.
Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an "awkward" or "difficult" person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other.

Aggressive narcissism
This is Factor 1 in the Hare Psychopathy Checklist, which includes the following traits:
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Collective or group narcissism
Main article: Collective narcissism
Collective narcissism (or group narcissism) is a type of narcissism where an individual has an inflated self-love of his or her own ingroup, where an “ingroup” is a group in which an individual is personally involved.[30] While the classic definition of narcissism focuses on the individual, collective narcissism asserts that one can have a similar excessively high opinion of a group, and that a group can function as a narcissistic entity.[30] Collective narcissism is related to ethnocentrism; however, ethnocentrism primarily focuses on self-centeredness at an ethnic or cultural level, while collective narcissism is extended to any type of ingroup beyond just cultures and ethnicities.[30][31]



Sexual narcissism
Sexual narcissism has been described as an egocentric pattern of sexual behavior that involves an inflated sense of sexual ability and sexual entitlement. In addition, sexual narcissism is the erotic preoccupation with oneself as a superb lover through a desire to merge sexually with a mirror image of oneself. Sexual narcissism is an intimacy dysfunction in which sexual exploits are pursued, generally in the form of extramarital affairs, to overcompensate for low self-esteem and an inability to experience true intimacy.[46] This behavioral pattern is believed to be more common in men than in women and has been tied to domestic violence in men and sexual coercion in couples.[47][48] Hurlbert argues that sex is a natural biological given and therefore cannot be deemed as an addiction. He and his colleagues assert that any sexual addiction is nothing more than a misnomer for what is actually sexual narcissism or sexual compulsivity.[49]


Narcissistic leadership
Main article: Narcissistic leadership
Narcissistic leadership is a common form of leadership. The narcissism may be healthy or destructive although there is a continuum between the two. A study published in the journal Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin suggests that when a group is without a leader, you can often count on a narcissist to take charge. Researchers found that people who score high in narcissism tend to take control of leaderless groups.[51]

Narcissism and boundaries

According to Hotchkiss,[7] narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist will be treated as if they are part of the narcissist and be expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other.
As one ex put it, 'If you had firm boundaries in the face of a narcissist, the relationship wouldn't last'.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism#Aggressive_narcissism
 
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Self-Esteem, Narcissism, and Aggression
Does Violence Result From Low Self-Esteem or From Threatened Egotism?
Roy F. Baumeister1,
Brad J. Bushman and
W. Keith Campbell
+Author Affiliations
Department of Psychology, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio
Department of Psychology, Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
R. Baumeister, Department of Psychology, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH 44106–7123; e-mail: [email protected].
Abstract

A traditional view holds that low self-esteem causes aggression, but recent work has not confirmed this. Although aggressive people typically have high self-esteem, there are also many nonaggressive people with high self-esteem, and so newer constructs such as narcissism and unstable self-esteem are most effective at predicting aggression. The link between self-regard and aggression is best captured by the theory of threatened egotism, which depicts aggression as a means of defending a highly favorable view of self against someone who seeks to undermine or discredit that view.
 
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One of my favorite quotes:
Not all abusers are narcissists but all narcissists are abusive.

I believe, whether diagnosed or not, the overwhelming majority of abusers are afflicted with at least one cluster b personality disorder or co-morbid. IMO, IME and FWIW
 
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Narcissists commonly feel no guilt, only shame. The blogger The Last Psychiatrist has a special interest in blogging about narcissism, and he/she has many interesting insights on it.
As he says in one blog post, while psychopaths will kill you because they are evil, narcissists will kill you to stop you finding out they are evil.
More simply put, narcissists will kill out of pique, or to hide a tawdry reality behind the carefully-built mask.
In all ways, it's unpredictable if a narcissist will become a killer, but if a narcissist does become a killer, pretty much the first victims will be those whom the narcissist used to reflect an identity for himself.
In other words, usually those closest to him. And as The Last Psychiatrist says,don't bother looking for reasonable or predictable answers as to why a narcissist kills.
 
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Narcissists commonly feel no guilt, only shame. The blogger The Last Psychiatrist has a special interest in blogging about narcissism, and he/she has many interesting insights on it.
As he says in one blog post, while psychopaths will kill you because they are evil, narcissists will kill you to stop you finding out they are evil.
More simply put, narcissists will kill out of pique, or to hide a tawdry reality behind the carefully-built mask.
In all ways, it's unpredictable if a narcissist will become a killer, but if a narcissist does become a killer, pretty much the first victims will be those whom the narcissist used to reflect an identity for himself.
In other words, usually those closest to him. And as The Last Psychiatrist says,don't bother looking for reasonable or predictable answers as to why a narcissist kills.

Fascinating stuff, thanks, Pias!

Bouncing off this info, Michelle's comments on the PC episode really shattered the "identity" Jr. created for himself, that of being a nice, fair guy. From her own mouth we got to hear he was jeaous, mean, vindictive, petty, cruel, irrational. Maybe when he watched that and saw that Michelle had offered a radically different picture of him then the one he'd created for the public, he snapped.

Also, I think the fact that his identity is now tarnished is behind him whining to his lawyer. He wants his public image rehabilitated. He wants it to match the image he has of HIMSELF. Not gonna happen. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. It's all out there now.
 
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Fascinating stuff, thanks, Pias!

Bouncing off this info, Michelle's comments on the PC episode really shattered the "identity" Jr. created for himself, that of being a nice, fair guy. From her own mouth we got to hear he was jeaous, mean, vindictive, petty, cruel, irrational. Maybe when he watched that and saw that Michelle had offered a radically different picture of him then the one he'd created for the public, he snapped.

Also, I think the fact that his identity is now tarnished is behind him whining to his lawyer. He wants his public image rehabilitated. He wants it to match the image he has of HIMSELF. Not gonna happen. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. It's all out there now.

That was interesting, Pias and Lark2. And your comments, Lark2, reminds me of the movie American Psycho, where a guy hides his alternate personality from his friends and coworkers.
 
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That was interesting, Pias and Lark2. And your comments, Lark2, reminds me of the movie American Psycho, where a guy hides his alternate personality from his friends and coworkers.

Interesting you should mention that.

If one does a little digging on American Psycho, they might find some interesting reading.
 
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All this is my opinion only.

I appreciate the articles—it’s interesting reading for sure. Are we really going to start analyzing Dale Smith II here, though? If there were at least one confirmed mental health professional among us who could weigh in, that would help, but as it is, we’ll be just doing armchair analysis. We’ve heard some things about Dale’s personality from incidents in the past, but do we really know him more than one-dimensionally? What, we know that he loves to admire himself in the mirror or something?

As always, MOO.
 
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Fascinating stuff, thanks, Pias!

Bouncing off this info, Michelle's comments on the PC episode really shattered the "identity" Jr. created for himself, that of being a nice, fair guy. From her own mouth we got to hear he was jeaous, mean, vindictive, petty, cruel, irrational. Maybe when he watched that and saw that Michelle had offered a radically different picture of him then the one he'd created for the public, he snapped.

Also, I think the fact that his identity is now tarnished is behind him whining to his lawyer. He wants his public image rehabilitated. He wants it to match the image he has of HIMSELF. Not gonna happen. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. It's all out there now.


BBM

Since you have mentioned this, and after doing some research on the net, I have come to the conclusion Mr. Smith is nothing but a bully and a liar, hiding behind "created identities."

I'm not sure I can link the websites found, but if you google jediscout2871, jediscout and tristan458 I think you may find some very interesting reading. Granted Star Wars is not my cup of tea and I found it painful to read, but I do believe another side of Mr. Smith...well how should I say it....comes to life. jmo
 
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My sister-in-law has worked for Sephora for years and sends me a huge "Lolita Lempicka" perfume once a year; it lasts me the whole year. :) Just FWIW
 
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My sister-in-law has worked for Sephora for years and sends me a huge "Lolita Lempicka" perfume once a year; it lasts me the whole year. :) Just FWIW



:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
 
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My sister-in-law has worked for Sephora for years and sends me a huge "Lolita Lempicka" perfume once a year; it lasts me the whole year. :) Just FWIW

:floorlaugh:

Did you take a wrong turn somewhere cluciano?
 
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BBM

Since you have mentioned this, and after doing some research on the net, I have come to the conclusion Mr. Smith is nothing but a bully and a liar, hiding behind "created identities."

I'm not sure I can link the websites found, but if you google jediscout2871, jediscout and tristan458 I think you may find some very interesting reading. Granted Star Wars is not my cup of tea and I found it painful to read, but I do believe another side of Mr. Smith...well how should I say it....comes to life. jmo

Well I think we can determine that DSJr has certainly embellished himself quite a bit in online ramblings. No doubt he was doing the same in real life. I wonder how many people in his present life were surprised by his actual criminal record and where he was or perhaps just as importantly, wasn't, during the times that criminal record indicates.

And I also wonder how they may feel about being duped, if that is in fact the case. Only those who were closest to him and were around during those years would have known the truth about what he was up to. Are these people still standing by him today, knowing what they know about his criminal past? And did he embellish his background to Michelle as well? How well did she really know him before getting involved?

MOO
 
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All this is my opinion only.

I appreciate the articles—it’s interesting reading for sure. Are we really going to start analyzing Dale Smith II here, though? If there were at least one confirmed mental health professional among us who could weigh in, that would help, but as it is, we’ll be just doing armchair analysis. We’ve heard some things about Dale’s personality from incidents in the past, but do we really know him more than one-dimensionally? What, we know that he loves to admire himself in the mirror or something?

As always, MOO.

What I know about him is that he is a violent predator and it seems people tend to get killed around him. Michelle's son knows he is an abuser of women. That's more than enough for me.
 
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*snipped*Maybe that was the reason he went to craig's list for dates/ for having relations with men and women (via the MSM report). *snipped*

I missed that!... do you have a link? Thanks!
 
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Where is there anything posted in MSM that indicates Dale Jr. is gay or bi-sexual?

If you are talking about using Craigslist to contact other Star Wars fanatics (both women and men) that is not gonna fly.

Is there any PROOF that I am unaware of that has been released via MSM?

Thanks.
 
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This was posted on MP Facebook page today:

Michelle Parker Missing Person
8 hours ago
Tomorrow police will be having a sort of "Smart Panel" put togeather. A group of all highly trained, and some learning, individuals in police work and missing persons cases and other various departments, will be coming togeather.

Reason for this is to get some fresh prespectives and opinons on Michelle's case, while also looking at other local missing persons cases. Asking questions, making sure all bases have been covered, seeing if there may be a diferent way of looking at things.

All in all Our family asks that everyone pray for these individuals. Pray that their minds are fresh and clear and ready to think. Pray that maybe one has an idea that hasent been thought of yet.
In any of the cases of missing persons being talked about tomorrow pray that maybe closure can be brought maybe to one or more of the families.

Some may be wondering, but there isnt a specific "find" of any kind that has sparked this Panel. It is simply another way that police are going about the investigation for Michelle.

As always, thank you for your always kind words and prayers. Each and every one is read by the family.
 
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