FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #19

[Skully]

https://www.facebook.com/#!/michelleparkermissingperson



Look under Wednesday's the second one and she answers a question about the time she went missing.

 

[nobodynoz]

https://www.facebook.com/#!/michelleparkermissingperson



Look under Wednesday's the second one and she answers a question about the time she went missing.

I don't know about the 6 PM time, but the 2:30 time has long been given as the last time she was seen. I'm assuming (imo) that it's the last time the family members saw her, although I know there are others who have a different opinion on that.

 

[Jazzmaster]

That post by the stepmother was put on a site that is frequented by people in DSJr's circle. He was likely alerted to it by one of those people...if not several. This angered him no doubt because she dared to invade his personal world of jedi friends. So he quickly shot off a nasty accusation in the guise of someone else to retaliate.

To me this just shows a hair trigger temper. At that moment, I'm not exactly sure who he was more angry with, the stepmother or Michelle herself. :waitasec:

MOO of course.

That is a great question. Why would he be mad at the step mom...Just because she wants to know what Dale did with her step daughter who she treated like her own daughter? Gayle seems like a pretty nice woman to me and Dale, I mean Buck Fuddy spit in her face...

 

[Jazzmaster]

Honeybee, I know you've done quite a bit of research on this case and probably know Dale the best....

Has Dale ever mentioned where he hypothetically might hide a body? Even if joking...Maybe he mentioned in passing how *he likes digging holes? Or had the perfect place... Maybe some place he enjoyed earlier in life... Do you still think he was involved? Also why does he hide behind Buck Fuddy?

TIA

 

[nobodynoz]

That post by the stepmother was put on a site that is frequented by people in DSJr's circle. He was likely alerted to it by one of those people...if not several. This angered him no doubt because she dared to invade his personal world of jedi friends. So he quickly shot off a nasty accusation in the guise of someone else to retaliate.

To me this just shows a hair trigger temper. At that moment, I'm not exactly sure who he was more angry with, the stepmother or Michelle herself. :waitasec:

MOO of course.

Okay, it's all well and good to be bringing up the timeline in the middle of all this--there's no disputing we've looked at and questioned it a lot. But back to the Buck Fuddy alias. I have based my feeling on DS II being the guilty party upon what I see as his lies about the time Michelle arrived and about the time he is said to have arrived at Rose, and nothing has served to dispel my sense that it's a big hole in his story. If Michelle was abducted earlier than the Hummer's arrival at the condo, that even adds more weight to the lie of her having arrived with the kids at 4 PM and him having arrived at Rose at 4:30.

And then onto his use of Buck Fuddy to smear Michelle's reputation in some sort of retaliation. Isn't that the act of someone who is blaming Michelle?

All IMO.

 

[beach]

I removed the last few posts. Let's don't let it get personal, okay?


If you're posting an opinion, please make sure it is clearly presented that way.

If you're claiming something as a fact, please provide a link to support the fact.

That's just how we roll around here.


It's been busy around WS and I haven't had as much time to participate on this thread, but I still read at least every other day. I pray for some big break in this case everyday!

 

[What'sThatClue]

I wonder why Dale had to hide behind Buck Fuddy to claim Michelle was an escort and as he claims "Sell sex for money"? If this were your missing ex and mother of your children would you throw that out there? Or is this why he made her disappear? IMO He sure seems to have a lot of hate for her to make that kind of claim...

MOO, a man who would make those sorts of claims about the woman he formerly loved probably very much doubts his own manhood. Especially if she had been seeing another man. Again, JMO.
That's not to say that's the case here, but it was my first thought...

 

[SmoothOperator]

WoW things really get going sometimes before anyone is even clear on what it is that they're running with:crazy: jmo, tho..

I guess the main thing I am not seeing is this "new" timeline supposedly per Michelle's family.. and I believe I even read some posts saying that LE are going on this "new" timeline as well? :what:..

Of course this is only my opinion but it seems possibly that due to total lack of new or helpful info or details coming to light involving Michelle's disappearance that maybe things have gotten so bare boned that they have somehow taken on a whole new and entirely different meaning.. that what little we have to work with has been so very overly analyzed, read backward and forward, and literally picked each word for word apart that the detail has somehow been altered and has taken on a whole new meaning.. a meaning that IMO, for me personally changes NOTHING AT ALL.. and it certainly IMO has not opened up this new treasure trove of possibilities of what happened to Michelle, when, and by whom it was perpatrated.. as I've been reading some posts referring to.. :crazy:

No matter whether the family are stating 230pm as the last time they saw Michelle(as is true when mom/sis last saw her as she left the salon en route to p/u the twins from daycare and drive them out to Jr's condo) ..OR.... whether the family is stating that it was a caretaker for the twins who last saw Michelle when she picked them up and left out end route to Jr's condo(as would be absolutely true as well) ..these details still remain the same ..unless perhaps someone was mistakenly under the impression that Michele never made It to pick up the twins. Not sure how someone would've come to that conclusion because IMO its been obvious since the onset that Michelle picked up the twins and drove to Dale's.. so the family stating the caregiver saw Michelle only validates what most already knew..

Again I don't see where there are now new revelations that have been revealed(supposedly by both the family and LE) that have opened up this treasure trove of possibilities??

For me if one wanted to strip it all back to bare bones, twist it around, spell it backwards, and give a whole new meaning or definition and in doing so it now "opens up" a new possibility of Michelle meeting with foul play EN ROUTE FROM DAYCARE TO DALE'S.. PRIOR TO HER EVER ARRIVING AT DALE'S CONDO.. well.. err...uummmmm ...well .. and how exactly does that open up there being a possibility of a DIFFERENT perpatrator, other than Dale Jr? .. IMO it doesn't.. it just does not even come close to indicating even something similar.. moo, its all that twisting and turning and attempting to make a detail become something new and/or different ... all of that for nothing.. the bottom line remains the exact same as far as "who" it was that caused the foul play when Michelle crossed paths with him.. Dale Jr..

So, what is it that I am missing? I am one who never asks for links to back up someones posts.. I have found my searching that info out myself works best for me.. but I'm at a loss with finding where these new and very different details have been stated by Michelle's family as well as LE.. if this is so then there needs to be major adjustments made with our case timeline and I'd be more than happy to do that and post the links in our timeline to back up these new found details and changes.. please post these statements and links TIA

For the most part sadly I believe Michelle's case has hit its rut.. I'd so very much hoped that we'd not ever even have to reach the state with being so very far into this investigation WITH STILL NO CLUE WHERE THIS PRECIOUS, BEAUTIFUL MOMMA, DAUGHTER, SISTER, AND FRIEND IS AT AND WHAT WAS DONE TO HER! .. ITS FRUSTRATING, I KNOW.. her wonderful family I'm certain are worn thin, weary, yet continuing to trudge on for Michelle.. I haven't a single doubt that they are made of the stuff that long lasts and their strength in their unity and ability to lean on and derive more strength from each other.. they will see this through all the way to the very bitter end in order to find and bring their girl home.. I sure hope Dale Jr wasn't counting on their getting worn down and unable to keep this up in their efforts to find Michelle.. if that's what Hes been banking on well he'll find he is once again sorely sorely WRONG! (for any who may be wondering of what other incident I'm referring to that Dale was wrong about.. its that he was dead wrong in believing for even a millisecond that he even comes close to having the intellect, skills, or wherewithal to murder Michelle Loree Parker and to get away with it)<-- THAT IS MY OPINION ONLY!

 

[Sparky]

Can I jump in here and ask what this is about a "babysitter"? I don't recall anyone suggesting that before. We didn't even know where the daycare was located before this, and it was thought to be something that we couldn't know. And now there's suddenly an indication that it's a babysitter who lives in Waterford Lakes? I know that opinions don't require links, but I think perhaps that little tidbit or two of information requires a link.

And respectfully, as far as requesting a link for the other info that's been discussed on here this morning, I understand that we don't need to link for opinions only, but hasn't someone stated that the family has a different timeline? That's not someone's opinion here, I think, that's something that would have to be substantiated, in my opinion. Always, always, in my opinion. lol

https://www.facebook.com/groups/354540607906926/

Jan 30, 2012

 

[nobodynoz]

WoW things really get going sometimes before anyone is even clear on what it is that they're running with:crazy: jmo, tho..

I guess the main thing I am not seeing is this "new" timeline supposedly per Michelle's family.. and I believe I even read some posts saying that LE are going on this "new" timeline as well? :what:..

Of course this is only my opinion but it seems possibly that due to total lack of new or helpful info or details coming to light involving Michelle's disappearance that maybe things have gotten so bare boned that they have somehow taken on a whole new and entirely different meaning.. that what little we have to work with has been so very overly analyzed, read backward and forward, and literally picked each word for word apart that the detail has somehow been altered and has taken on a whole new meaning.. a meaning that IMO, for me personally changes NOTHING AT ALL.. and it certainly IMO has not opened up this new treasure trove of possibilities of what happened to Michelle, when, and by whom it was perpatrated.. as I've been reading some posts referring to.. :crazy:

No matter whether the family are stating 230pm as the last time they saw Michelle(as is true when mom/sis last saw her as she left the salon en route to p/u the twins from daycare and drive them out to Jr's condo) ..OR.... whether the family is stating that it was a caretaker for the twins who last saw Michelle when she picked them up and left out end route to Jr's condo(as would be absolutely true as well) ..these details still remain the same ..unless perhaps someone was mistakenly under the impression that Michele never made It to pick up the twins. Not sure how someone would've come to that conclusion because IMO its been obvious since the onset that Michelle picked up the twins and drove to Dale's.. so the family stating the caregiver saw Michelle only validates what most already knew..

Again I don't see where there are now new revelations that have been revealed(supposedly by both the family and LE) that have opened up this treasure trove of possibilities??

For me if one wanted to strip it all back to bare bones, twist it around, spell it backwards, and give a whole new meaning or definition and in doing so it now "opens up" a new possibility of Michelle meeting with foul play EN ROUTE FROM DAYCARE TO DALE'S.. PRIOR TO HER EVER ARRIVING AT DALE'S CONDO.. well.. err...uummmmm ...well .. and how exactly does that open up there being a possibility of a DIFFERENT perpatrator, other than Dale Jr? .. IMO it doesn't.. it just does not even come close to indicating even something similar.. moo, its all that twisting and turning and attempting to make a detail become something new and/or different ... all of that for nothing.. the bottom line remains the exact same as far as "who" it was that caused the foul play when Michelle crossed paths with him.. Dale Jr..

So, what is it that I am missing? I am one who never asks for links to back up someones posts.. I have found my searching that info out myself works best for me.. but I'm at a loss with finding where these new and very different details have been stated by Michelle's family as well as LE.. if this is so then there needs to be major adjustments made with our case timeline and I'd be more than happy to do that and post the links in our timeline to back up these new found details and changes.. please post these statements and links TIA

For the most part sadly I believe Michelle's case has hit its rut.. I'd so very much hoped that we'd not ever even have to reach the state with being so very far into this investigation WITH STILL NO CLUE WHERE THIS PRECIOUS, BEAUTIFUL MOMMA, DAUGHTER, SISTER, AND FRIEND IS AT AND WHAT WAS DONE TO HER! .. ITS FRUSTRATING, I KNOW.. her wonderful family I'm certain are worn thin, weary, yet continuing to trudge on for Michelle.. I haven't a single doubt that they are made of the stuff that long lasts and their strength in their unity and ability to lean on and derive more strength from each other.. they will see this through all the way to the very bitter end in order to find and bring their girl home.. I sure hope Dale Jr wasn't counting on their getting worn down and unable to keep this up in their efforts to find Michelle.. if that's what Hes been banking on well he'll find he is once again sorely sorely WRONG! (for any who may be wondering of what other incident I'm referring to that Dale was wrong about.. its that he was dead wrong in believing for even a millisecond that he even comes close to having the intellect, skills, or wherewithal to murder Michelle Loree Parker and to get away with it)<-- THAT IS MY OPINION ONLY!

Smooth, I appreciate your back-to-the-basics take on things. I just wanted to speak for myself--the reason I ask for links is fourfold:

• I am hoping that the person who posted something will have a link available to save me spending hours looking for it.
• Sometimes someone is stating something they vaguely remember for which there's no link, and thus spending time looking for it will not yield anything, as there is no real link.
• I'm trying to add answers to the question list, and I need a link to verify the answer.
• I want to assist my fellow posters to have access to the link, and asking the original poster for it can be the fastest way to accomplish that.

 

[nobodynoz]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/354540607906926/

Jan 30, 2012

Thank you kindly, Sparky. If we discussed this on here before, I completely missed it, and wouldn't have known where to find it.

 

[uscgirl]

Jazzmaster, I just wanted to say I think it is so cute that you call the twins, "twinners". My niece and nephew are twins and I have never heard that before.

Also, I just want to commend you for what an amazing job you are doing to help find Michelle and for keeping her name out there. I know it is hard on everyone with each day that passes!

 

[Evanesco]

Jazzmaster, I just wanted to say I think it is so cute that you call the twins, "twinners". My niece and nephew are twins and I have never heard that before.

Also, I just want to commend you for what an amazing job you are doing to help find Michelle and for keeping her name out there. I know it is hard on everyone with each day that passes!

I agree wholeheartedly! I haven't been able to post much, but I've been reading along and all I have to say is wow. I can't come up with any good reason someone would need to sign up as someone else just to slander the missing mother of their children.

Thank you to sparky and jazz for posting your discoveries... Puts a new light on the subject...

And goes without saying... jMO!

 

[captdj]

I wonder why Dale had to hide behind Buck Fuddy to claim Michelle was an escort and as he claims "Sell sex for money"? If this were your missing ex and mother of your children would you throw that out there? Or is this why he made her disappear? IMO He sure seems to have a lot of hate for her to make that kind of claim...

Id say Buck's goal is to tarnish Michelles image and place blame of the victim by creating a lifestyle that carries some risks....

Doesnt this sound similiar to a lot of other cases...

Maybe just having a new BF is enough to call her names etc like that in his mind.....

 

[hon3yb33]

Honeybee, I know you've done quite a bit of research on this case and probably know Dale the best....

Has Dale ever mentioned where he hypothetically might hide a body? Even if joking...Maybe he mentioned in passing how *he likes digging holes? Or had the perfect place... Maybe some place he enjoyed earlier in life... Do you still think he was involved? Also why does he hide behind Buck Fuddy?

TIA

I have not done quite a bit of research on this I'm not sure why you keep on saying this. As far as this forum I am only going to state my opinions regarding this case and nothing specific in regards to Dale. It is MY OPINION that sometimes some people take one little thing said and twist it around or blow it out of proportion and I will not contribute to that.

 

[captdj]

If Michelle went missing before arriving at the condo....I have a problem with Dale saying she arrived with the twins.. chitchatted for 10 minutes then left.....if again he isnt involved in any way.....

She arrives on camera points to the camera didnt matter to Michelle but DS2 leaving not on camera could mean he could/did avoid it and knew about it....he couldnt change what Michelle did...

I think either something happened not planned at the condo and he panics doing some stupid things but gets lucky dumping her...
or
Someone takes her very near the condoas she is leaving...if we are to believe the 4:26 text is bogus.....

I'd just like to know if his phone was pinging along the same route and at the same time as Michelles....

That would be the deciding factor to me....were their phones together....

 

[Jazzmaster]

I have not done quite a bit of research on this I'm not sure why you keep on saying this. As far as this forum I am only going to state my opinions regarding this case and nothing specific in regards to Dale. It is MY OPINION that sometimes some people take one little thing said and twist it around or blow it out of proportion and I will not contribute to that.

So do you have any "opinions" on why Dale hides behind Buck Fuddy to blame the victim? Just curious....IMO I think it may have to do with the insecurities he has in his manhood....He knew Michelle was much better than he deserved and he couldn't accept that she moved on. The best thing that ever happened to him no longer wanted him and he may have figured if I can't have her no one will. He seems very concerned about his image and when people like Michelle figure out there's another side of him, they leave him. He doesn't accept rejection too well. He then lashes out at her. JMO

 

[Pias]

FWIW and in light of whats new, I have been reviewing information and here is the statement released by LE regarding the sv (with link, of course) http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...ifies-report-police-say-station-recanted.html

snip: Sgt. Jim Young wrote Wednesday morning: &#8220;Facts are that the Hummer video is not that of Michelle Parker&#8217;s vehicle and was ruled out early on in the investigation by detectives. That station has recanted their story.&#8221;

It doesn't say (in THIS statement) that PART of the video shows her Hummer arriving is hers either. What is says is "FACTS ARE that the hummer video IS NOT THAT OF MICHELLE PARKER'S VEHICLE and WAS RULED OUT EARLY ON IN THE INVESTIGATION BY DETECTIVES.

So where is the part where the HUMMER gets REWRITTEN into the facts on the sv?

While I know many have taken the stance that it was a media mess up that LE didn't want released, perhaps the assumption as to why is wrong. Maybe the facts are that it really ISN'T Michelle's hummer ANYWHERE on that video. Just a thought.... After all, I am sure Michelle's hummer isn't the ONLY one with stickers on its side windows and you can't actually SEE what they are, but only ASSUME it has to be cuz it is what you want to see, but that does not make it so. IMO

The up side? lol pretty obvious!

 

[cluciano63]

I wonder why Dale had to hide behind Buck Fuddy to claim Michelle was an escort and as he claims "Sell sex for money"? If this were your missing ex and mother of your children would you throw that out there? Or is this why he made her disappear? IMO He sure seems to have a lot of hate for her to make that kind of claim...

Because he would be offering up a host of potential suspects, I imagine, if believed. Like the husband in Jaymie Adam's case, who was all to eager to tell the world his wife was a prostitute, hoping to take the heat off of him.

 

[Gia]

I've been reading over some of the last pages and the timeline of the family is bothering me a bit.

I admit to not following the case closely anymore. But I was previously of the opinion that Michelle most likely went missing after arriving at the condo, around 3:18 pm like the tape showed. And I also felt that LE had the hummer on tape, leaving at a much later time than DS stated, without the decals (but they just didn't make it public).

Either way, I do realize that it might not have been MP arriving at the condo, if there is no tape of her face specifically shown as being there. But even if this is true, wouldn't the last person to VERIFY a sighting of MP be the person/people who had the twins, sometime AFTER she left the salon at 2:30?

Why would the family state between 2:30 pm and 6:00 pm, if she left the salon at 2:30? Or are they not sure of the exact time she left??

And if they are sure, then are they discounting that she was the one who picked up the twins? As in, maybe someone else did, but the person is just saying it was her, to cover for DS?

Do they feel that the text to her boyfriend was sent by an imposter? And if the phone was powered off at 8 pm (or thereabout), then why the time frame cut off of 6 pm? Was there a final text or other activity at that time that we just don't know about?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing or judging them for giving that time frame. I do believe that they must have a good reason for doing so. But if the twins were at daycare/a sitter, wouldn't that person be the last to have seen MP? Am I missing something?