FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 2

[Patty G]

I read and send text messages; I read newspapers. I don't speak to make a text message, nor speak to the newspaper. I call someone and speak to them or speak to their voice mail IF I want to speak to leave a voice message on the phone. :crazy:

Now if I had a voice activated cellphone where I could speak the words and it turns into a text, then I guess I would be speaking to someone if they can hear my voice speaking to them when they read my speaking text.

NOPE, I am not drinking!

 

[amysmom]

There's something very OFF about the timeline..IF MP really did arrive around 3:15 there was no way for her to be home for her son at 3:30p..Why wouldnt she have called & told him? Or someone else that could've gone over? I don't believe she was the type to just blow this off & it's been reported it wasn't something she's done before..So, why did it happen this time? There's also something OFF about alerting LE so soon & them responding to it..I always thought an adult had to be 'missing' for more then 24 hrs before they did?

 

[Cblewife]

What is known about the new bf? Someone mentioned a while back about DS being home to be able to take the twins. In that light and attempting to remove all blinders, was the new bf sending and receiving texts while he was working or was he off too?

 

[Wingfoot11]

There's something very OFF about the timeline..IF MP really did arrive around 3:15 there was no way for her to be home for her son at 3:30p..Why wouldnt she have called & told him? Or someone else that could've gone over? I don't believe she was the type to just blow this off & it's been reported it wasn't something she's done before..So, why did it happen this time? There's also something OFF about alerting LE so soon & them responding to it..I always thought an adult had to be 'missing' for more then 24 hrs before they did?

We have MP's Hummer on video at 3:18pm. That's assuming the camera owner properly set the time on it. There are also security video cameras owned by the HOA in that community that the police would also have access to but haven't released thus far to cross-reference with the neighbor's camera time.

Would a mother normally leave an 11-year old at home for an hour or two to run errands or is this too young of an age for that?

Its 24 hours before an official search begins. There are special circumstances (i.e. amber/silver alerts) but I think most LE would spread the word and at least send a vehicle description out to patrol units before the official 24 hours were up.

 

[ckhagen]

I've put together a satellite map of all the places I have seen in news articles or videos just so you can get a visual of where all of these places are.

http://goo.gl/xZM9r

A: Carter Glen condos - MP's Hummer seen on camera dropping off twins. 11/17 3:18pm
B: Towncenter shopping area : Most likely place Michelle Parker would have shopped if in fact she sent the "Waterford" text.
C: Michelle's mother's home
D: Michelle's home in Geneva, FL. I'm not sure this is accurate whether she had moved out of her mother's yet or not.
E: The Barn in Sanford, FL - Michelle's place of work.
F: 333 Oakridge Road Orlando, FL - Last ping from MP's cell 11/17 8:00pm
G: 4700 Walden Circle Orlando, FL - MP's Hummer recovered on 11/18 12:00am

The biggest thing that stands out to me and probably to most people from Orlando, is how out of the way points F an G are from the places she needed to be that day.

I had made one of these for myself and added two locations... the location from where Jennifer Kesse was taken(?): Mosaic at Millenia, Conroy Road, Orlando, FL
And the location where her car was found: (apartment complex at the corner of) Texas and Americana Ave in Orlando, Fl

I just find that very interesting.

ETA: sorry I just saw y'all already did that.

 

[Cblewife]

There's something very OFF about the timeline..IF MP really did arrive around 3:15 there was no way for her to be home for her son at 3:30p..Why wouldnt she have called & told him? Or someone else that could've gone over? I don't believe she was the type to just blow this off & it's been reported it wasn't something she's done before..So, why did it happen this time? There's also something OFF about alerting LE so soon & them responding to it..I always thought an adult had to be 'missing' for more then 24 hrs before they did?

I have to say I wondered the same thing. If it was a mistake putting her info out that quick, I think they need to make more of them!

 

[amysmom]

We have MP's Hummer on video at 3:18pm. That's assuming the camera owner properly set the time on it. There are also security video cameras owned by the HOA in that community that the police would also have access to but haven't released thus far to cross-reference with the neighbor's camera time.

Would a mother normally leave an 11-year old at home for an hour or two to run errands or is this too young of an age for that?

Its 24 hours before an official search begins. There are special circumstances (i.e. amber/silver alerts) but I think most LE would spread the word and at least send a vehicle description out to patrol units before the official 24 hours were up.

Many moms leave an 11-year old home alone but in this case it seems it never happened which is why he 'supposedly' called his grandmother about it..He may have tried to call his mom too but we haven't been told that..This makes me seriously question the time of her arrival at DS's & why her mom became so alarmed..Enough so that she called LE? :waitasec:

Would LE really do something like "spread the word" when a mom doesn't return home at her normal time for an 11 yr old child? I find that kinda hard to believe..The only thing that makes sense to me is that her mom reported they had a "violent" history & she was dropping off her kids there..That would raise a 'red flag' to LE which could be why they took it as a possible serious situation?

 

[katydid23]

Smooth Operator I agree with your thinking about things going back to the ex.

Someone upstream pointed out that she never called her 11 yr old after school when she was late getting back home. That indicates the possibility that something happened very quickly, immediately after the 3:15 time she dropped off the twins.

I keep coming back to him for so many reasons. The past violent history they had. The fact they had custody to figure out at some point. The fact that he was the last to see her. The fact that she did not call her 11 yr old at 3:30 when he was expected home from school.

 

[Janeumayer]

Do we really know that Dale watched People's Court that day?

There is a text message sent to Michelle's new bf AFTER she dropped off the children at Dale's condo.

There really wasn't that much courtroom drama on the show. In fact, at the end of the show, when the contestants go out to talk to the reporter, Dale was looking for a message in his cellphone, because it appeared Michelle sent him a message the night before about wanting to get together or back again. Not exactly sure how it was stated. It is in part 3 of the show.

Thank you Patty G. I guess I should have written it was a guess of mine. We do not know if he watched the show. But if I were the one in the show, I would have watched it. :hug:

 

[Kamille]

Were these convos on his FB page shortly after the show was 'taped' or the night the show 'aired'? I'm confused cos another post gave me the impression it was not the same night it 'aired'/MP went missing that DS was posting about how it went to his FB 'friends'. :waitasec:

It seems from the timeline MP didn't have the opportunity to watch it but he did..I can't imagine why he wouldn't have & I can easily see him bringing it up to her when she arrived..Why wouldn't he? It wasn't an every day experience they shared & I'd be very surprised if there still weren't any negative feelings on both sides stemming from it..I don't think it matters how long ago it was..It's been reported it was done last summer & as recently as Oct..Not sure what the 'truth' is but regardless it doesn't change my POV on the issue..There may have been a 'fight' about it..It had to open old wounds no?..IF something did happen to MP then my guess is it was an accident & one that didn't leave any signs of a struggle or any evidence.

eta..as a friend of DS sorry if what I said upsets you..I'm just throwing my thoughts on a possible scenario out there.

Wasn't there some talk in the show about him missing or not being invited to the children's birthday? And that was supposedly within the previous three weeks prior to the taping? Do we know when the children turned 3?

 

[Patty G]

In so many relationships, they text back and forth while working and driving.

 

[Kamille]

Smooth Operator I agree with your thinking about things going back to the ex.

Someone upstream pointed out that she never called her 11 yr old after school when she was late getting back home. That indicates the possibility that something happened very quickly, immediately after the 3:15 time she dropped off the twins.

I keep coming back to him for so many reasons. The past violent history they had. The fact they had custody to figure out at some point. The fact that he was the last to see her. The fact that she did not call her 11 yr old at 3:30 when he was expected home from school.

Well we don't really know at what time the 11yr old called his grandmother and what time she contacted LE do we? Perhaps she had already told him that she was going to be home later than usual that day because she had to drop off the twins. Maybe he didn't start the ball rolling until after the time she said she was going to be home had passed and she wasn't home and hadn't called?

MOO

 

[Patty G]

Wasn't there some talk in the show about him missing or not being invited to the children's birthday? And that was supposedly within the previous three weeks prior to the taping? Do we know when the children turned 3?

Yes, it was mentioned that he hadn't seen his children in three weeks and that he wasn't even invited to their third birthday party.

I don't think the media ever released the date of when the children turned 3.

 

[katydid23]

We have MP's Hummer on video at 3:18pm. That's assuming the camera owner properly set the time on it. There are also security video cameras owned by the HOA in that community that the police would also have access to but haven't released thus far to cross-reference with the neighbor's camera time.

Would a mother normally leave an 11-year old at home for an hour or two to run errands or is this too young of an age for that?

Its 24 hours before an official search begins. There are special circumstances (i.e. amber/silver alerts) but I think most LE would spread the word and at least send a vehicle description out to patrol units before the official 24 hours were up.

BBM

Here is what bothers me about this particular situation. It is not that the boy was left alone. I used to do quick errands while my 11 yr old son was home alone. But I would be home with him when he arrived, get him safely set up with food and a video game or something, and then lock the door and leave briefly. But that is not the same thing as just not being home when he arrives from school, and not calling him to check in. That is the red flag, imo. That she would be casually driving around, shopping, and would not call her 11 yr old to say she was running late. And I also believe he would have called her when she was not home that afternoon. I wonder if he tried to call her before he called his grandma?

 

[SnoopyDoobyDoo]

Well we don't really know at what time the 11yr old called his grandmother and what time she contacted LE do we? Perhaps she had already told him that she was going to be home later than usual that day because she had to drop off the twins. Maybe he didn't start the ball rolling until after the time she said she was going to be home had passed and she wasn't home and hadn't called?

MOO

Well, I don't think that he raised the alarm at 3:30. I believe Michelle's mother said that he phoned her and asked if she'd seen her, YS replied that she was probably napping, and the son said something along the lines of not seeing her at all since he had come home from school. That implies some lapse of time to me. Does anybody know the quote I mean? I'll go digging to see if I can find it.

 

[katydid23]

Well we don't really know at what time the 11yr old called his grandmother and what time she contacted LE do we? Perhaps she had already told him that she was going to be home later than usual that day because she had to drop off the twins. Maybe he didn't start the ball rolling until after the time she said she was going to be home had passed and she wasn't home and hadn't called?

MOO

NO, according to the original reports, the 11 yr old called his grandmother because his mom was not home as expected. IT was pretty quick because Grandma called her son, to see if he had heard from her, and he called Michelle and asked where are you? Her reply was reportedly just after 4 pm.
So that tells us that they were concerned about her from the start.

 

[katydid23]

Well, I don't think that he raised the alarm at 3:30. I believe Michelle's mother said that he phoned her and asked if she'd seen her, YS replied that she was probably napping, and the son said something along the lines of not seeing her at all since he had come home from school. That implies some lapse of time to me. Does anybody know the quote I mean? I'll go digging to see if I can find it.

But didn't the uncle call and ask her "where are you?' at around 4?

 

[SnoopyDoobyDoo]

But didn't the uncle call and ask her "where are you?' at around 4?

4:26, and I believe he was texting around for a ride not concern, as per this post.

Still looking for the quote.

 

[truthsleuth]

I thought you were going to say, "We have to trust that they are giving us facts, however, we know what screw ups they are."

Well, I was thinking about writing it that way, but decided to be as polite as I can be. :floorlaugh:

Just got home to find this. Good one, Patty G!

 

[truthsleuth]

But didn't the uncle call and ask her "where are you?' at around 4?

Not the uncle ... it was the brother who sent a text to Michelle at 4:00 pm.