FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 2

[Jersey*Girl]

But the taping was in June and it appears things changed after that show because now Dale was seeing his children and Michele had moved on.

I agree sweetheart, that's why I typed that. I think it's so easy for the public to concentrate on Dale based on what the media has released but so many people respond before watching the full video. IMO, that show made them both look immature and vindictive. I have no idea if Dale is guilty or not but right now I'm really not thinking he is. So many people on the net and in the media are negative against Dale but Michelle is the mother of 3 children and treated him the same way he treated her, yet nobody's talking about her bc she's the victim here. If Dale were the one missing, then everybody would be pointing fingers at Michelle or heck maybe theyd even say well he deserved it yada yada.

Here's what I think: I think it's hard enough for this family to wake up everyday without their daughter, mother, exfiancee, girlfriend, neice, cousin, best friend - you get the point. Why add more fuel to their pain by bashing somebody they don't think is involved? Everybody can look at whomever they want, Dale included, but I'm moving on. I'd rather be thorough than only focussing on one person.

It could be him, but maybe it's not. If he's not the perp, then thank God I'm not contributing to the pain he and his children are going through right now.

The media reported that the le official spokesperson said Dale isn't a person of interest. I'm just gonna stick with that. It makes my conscience feel better. If they can release something like that then that tells me they have verification of some sort that he's not involved.

 

[Reality Orlando]

You may be right but I thought Ironhorse said they (including passenger) spotted Michelle's H3 looked like she (her Hummer) was heading North on 417 as if she'd just gotten off the 408 ramp. It might just be that my wording is off. Maybe when Ironhorse gets on it can be clarified...

Pretty please Ironhorse? :blowkiss:

417 splits off the 408 north and south. Going to the left, or North, would have exits to University, then Aloma (Oviedo), Red Bug Lake Rd. (Oviedo), then finally 434 (which is also Alafaya Trail in Oviedo. Just off the 434 exit is the Black Hammock and the back way into Geneva). Going right or South at the 417 split off the 408, one of the first exits is Waterford Lakes, so either way would make sense and if there are indeed cameras LE knows when and where she traveled that area.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I am not around young people anymore except for my 43 year old son, who uses text when communicating as being in touch and phone call when speaking.

I'm old!

Patty G, you've always made me laugh! Btw, I'm really glad you still have your YouTube acct!

 

[Reality Orlando]

I am not around young people anymore except for my 43 year old son, who uses text when communicating as being in touch and phone call when speaking.

I'm old!

Lol, me too! It's all still a big blur especially when the rules change! I texted my grandson and asked him if he would say he spoke to his girlfriend if he texted her and he said yes, but my niece said she wouldn't say "spoke to" unless she actually spoke on the phone...she'd just say texted. Not sure that helps at all.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

417 splits off the 408 north and south. Going to the left, or North, would have exits to University, then Aloma (Oviedo), Red Bug Lake Rd. (Oviedo), then finally 434 (which is also Alafaya Trail in Oviedo. Just off the 434 exit is the Black Hammock and the back way into Geneva). Going right or South at the 417 split off the 408, one of the first exits is Waterford Lakes, so either way would make sense and if there are indeed cameras LE knows when and where she traveled that area.

Now you see why I can't let Waterford go! Thank you sugar!

Omg, I forgot to finish looking for that construction/crime stuff from years ago. Lemme go look. I'll be back...

 

[Patty G]

I agree sweetheart, that's why I typed that. I think it's so easy for the public to concentrate on Dale based on what the media has released but so many people respond before watching the full video. IMO, that show made them both look immature and vindictive. I have no idea if Dale is guilty or not but right now I'm really not thinking he is. So many people on the net and in the media are negative against Dale but Michelle is the mother of 3 children and treated him the same way he treated her, yet nobody's talking about her bc she's the victim here. If Dale were the one missing, then everybody would be pointing fingers at Michelle or heck maybe theyd even say well he deserved it yada yada.

Here's what I think: I think it's hard enough for this family to wake up everyday without their daughter, mother, exfiancee, girlfriend, neice, cousin, best friend - you get the point. Why add more fuel to their pain by bashing somebody they don't think is involved? Everybody can look at whomever they want, Dale included, but I'm moving on. I'd rather be thorough than only focussing on one person.

It could be him, but maybe it's not. If he's not the perp, then thank God I'm not contributing to the pain he and his children are going through right now.

The media reported that the le official spokesperson said Dale isn't a person of interest. I'm just gonna stick with that. It makes my conscience feel better. If they can release something like that then that tells me they have verification of some sort that he's not involved.

Dale and Michelle, in their relationship, is the 21st Century version of "Fatal Attraction". It was obvious when Dale tried to show the reporter that Michelle had sent him a text about wanting to get back together or something like that.

I moved on from Dale a long time ago because I feel he is not involved no matter how many times the "square peg" is being pushed into the "round hole".

Do I like Dale, well, I have known many men like Dale in my life, when a man can't let go of a relationship and wants to get the last word or last piece of revenge.

I have met many Michelle's in my lifetime, when they can't let go of a relationship and keep taking men back or once they finally let go, end up finding someone just like the one they let go.

I just want Michelle found and returned to her family and I pray that she is found. I feel comfortable knowing that LE probably knows so much more then we do and are doing everything they can to find her.

 

[Sparky]

If Michelle has a epass/sunpass and her Hummer were on any tolls roads in the state of Florida then OPD has that info.

All they have to do is pull the account info and it shows date, time, what toll lane and toll both she went through.

I can't imagine anyone that travels a lot not having epass/or sunpass.

Remember in the Anthony case we saw George's info when he said he chased KC down the toll rd.

Also, remember we saw all the texts messages received and sent, all the times for all the phone calls KC made. So...IMO I believe OPD has all this info and this is why some of the searches have been in odd places.

The other day Ironhorse and I both saw searches in the Wedgefield area. In order to get to the area were they were searching from where DS lives, you would travel the toll rd. This is the closest route. (528)

In a MSM article, I believe it was channel 13's website. They were reporting searching from Wedgefield to I-95.

The Hummer could have entered the toll rd from Goldenrod, there would be one timestamp from the toll records. Heading east towards I-95, there is a Toll Plaza with many lanes. This would be the next timestamp on the toll records. There are no more working toll booths heading east towards I-95. There are new ones being built and there is a new unfinished toll booth were they were searching in Wedgefield.

If the Hummer did not go thru the Toll Plaza and there is no record of it, then the Hummer may have headed from 528 to the 417 and there is a Toll Plaza there also. Timestamped again.

If you recall Ironhorse saw the Hummer in the 408/417 area heading east and exiting the ramp at Alafaya Trail in the "Waterford" area. There is "no toll booth" exiting that ramp.

If there is no epass/sunpass on the Hummer and the Hummer ran a toll booth, the camera would snap a picture of the lic plate. A letter would then be sent to the person who's name is on the acct showing a pic of the lic plate, where the toll was ran, what lane the Hummer was in and the date of the offense.

Whatever the case may be, IMO OPD has all this information regardless if Michelle had a epass/sunpass

Hope this helps.

 

[Reality Orlando]

Now you see why I can't let Waterford go! Thank you sugar!

Omg, I forgot to finish looking for that construction/crime stuff from years ago. Lemme go look. I'll be back...

Don't worry about it if it's from years ago...things change from day to day down here!

 

[Reality Orlando]

If Michelle has a epass/sunpass and her Hummer were on any tolls roads in the state of Florida then OPD has that info.

All they have to do is pull the account info and it shows date, time, what toll lane and toll both she went through.

I can't imagine anyone that travels a lot not having epass/or sunpass.

Remember in the Anthony case we saw George's info when he said he chased KC down the toll rd.

Also, remember we saw all the texts messages received and sent, all the times for all the phone calls KC made. So...IMO I believe OPD has all this info and this is why some of the searches have been in odd places.

The other day Ironhorse and I both saw searches in the Wedgefield area. In order to get to the area were they were searching from where DS lives, you would travel the toll rd. This is the closest route. (528)

In a MSM article, I believe it was channel 13's website. They were reporting searching from Wedgefield to I-95.

The Hummer could have entered the toll rd from Goldenrod, there would be one timestamp from the toll records. Heading east towards I-95, there is a Toll Plaza with many lanes. This would be the next timestamp on the toll records. There are no more working toll booths heading east towards I-95. There are new ones being built and there is a new unfinished toll booth were they were searching in Wedgefield.

If the Hummer did not go thru the Toll Plaza and there is no record of it, then the Hummer may have headed from 528 to the 417 and there is a Toll Plaza there also. Timestamped again.

If you recall Ironhorse saw the Hummer in the 408/417 area heading east and exiting the ramp at Alafaya Trail in the "Waterford" area. There is "no toll booth" exiting that ramp.

If there is no epass/sunpass on the Hummer and the Hummer ran a toll booth, the camera would snap a picture of the lic plate. A letter would then be sent to the person who's name is on the acct showing a pic of the lic plate, where the toll was ran, what lane the Hummer was in and the date of the offense.

Whatever the case may be, IMO OPD has all this information regardless if Michelle had a epass/sunpass

Hope this helps.

I agree. I'm sure there is a LOT of info we have no idea about.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Don't worry about it if it's from years ago...things change from day to day down here!

I'm looking for it anyway for the sheer fact it's driving me crazy.

The construction was immense. I remember there being a huge pipe for waterflow being installed. Again, linking back with Jennifer kesse's disappearance, many thought she was disposed of in a construction zone. Gosh I hate taping that!

 

[Cblewife]

Dale and Michelle, in their relationship, is the 21st Century version of "Fatal Attraction". It was obvious when Dale tried to show the reporter that Michelle had sent him a text about wanting to get back together or something like that.

I moved on from Dale a long time ago because I feel he is not involved no matter how many times the "square peg" is being pushed into the "round hole".

Do I like Dale, well, I have known many men like Dale in my life, when a man can't let go of a relationship and wants to get the last word or last piece of revenge.

I have met many Michelle's in my lifetime, when they can't let go of a relationship and keep taking men back or once they finally let go, end up finding someone just like the one they let go.

I just want Michelle found and returned to her family and I pray that she is found. I feel comfortable knowing that LE probably knows so much more then we do and are doing everything they can to find her.

This is one reason I've asked a couple of times about the new bf, NM. How did she meet him? I wonder how HE felt about the show? I believe I read one of his friends called and told him about it. Could it have been an issue that she had not shared this part of her life? Again....just trying to broaden the picture from DS.... regardless of what my opinion is at this moment I agree that LE probably knows and is doing much more than we know.... I hope.

 

[Reality Orlando]

I'm looking for it anyway for the sheer fact it's driving me crazy.

The construction was immense. I remember there being a huge pipe for waterflow being installed. Again, linking back with Jennifer kesse's disappearance, many thought she was disposed of in a construction zone. Gosh I hate taping that!

Well, I seem to remember the condo Jennifer was living in was in a complex still under construction. I think she purchased and moved into one of the early units finished but there was still construction going on and that she told someone at one point the construction workers made her nervous. Could that be what you're remembering? That wasn't near Waterford though.

 

[amysmom]

Shortly after is when Judge Milian admonished both of them and expressed her disgust over them being so vindictive to one another. That's why I thought things changed after the taping bc both Dale as well as Michelle were embarassed of their previous actions.

Can someone like Dale with a history of 'violence' really change just like that? Would someone like Dale really be embarrassed over his previous actions? I dunno but it doesn't seem very likely to me..At least not just from a tongue lashing from some judge on 'People's Court'.

MSM reported he got a 'dishonorable' discharge from the Marines & it stemmed from an innocent of "domestic violence"..I'll try to find this statement but in the meantime if the mods want it removed I totally understand.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Well, I seem to remember the condo Jennifer was living in was in a complex still under construction. I think she purchased and moved into one of the early units finished but there was still construction going on and that she told someone at one point the construction workers made her nervous. Could that be what you're remembering? That wasn't near Waterford though.

My bold: No. I know Jennifer moved into a new condo, 2 months later she disappears.

I searched construction throughout the area bc it was mentioned that their maintenance gave her the heebie jeebies. It was mentioned that there was painting going on there or something. The surveillance snapshot of the dude (or female) authorities thought dropped her car off at Huntington on the Green was wearing all white and what appears (to me) to be work boots. Either they were wearing one of those corny berets or they have a jacked up haircut. When I consider the height of the fencing and the sloping of the land around the pool of that complex, the poi looks short in stature, like maybe 5'10' or less. I wondered if it was a guy with a little man complex that scoped out females to feel powerful. I know it's out there but it's only me brainstorming. They also appeared to be Asian to me, but why would I even think that just by seeing the shape of their head? I think it has something to do with their head. If it's a beret, they're wearing it the wrong way. So that made me think of an asian, or eurasian. Idk. Then I was completely thrown off when I saw Hataway had the same haircut in on eof his pictures, but he doesn;t fit the body type plus he has tattoos (the arms were noticable in the surveillance pic). The poi's arms were skinny, not muscular like Hataways. Their legs are skinny as well.

Back to this case - Waterford was being worked on in one form or another when Jennifer went missing. I specifically remember it. I'm gonna find it. I don't believe it was Michelle that texted "Waterford". So what was the significance of that text?

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Can someone like Dale with a history of 'violence' really change just like that? Would someone like Dale really be embarrassed over his previous actions? I dunno but it doesn't seem very likely to me..At least not just from a tongue lashing from some judge on 'People's Court'.

MSM reported he got a 'dishonorable' discharge from the Marines & it stemmed from an innocent of "domestic violence"..I'll try to find this statement but in the meantime if the mods want it removed I totally understand.

Why would it have to be removed? It's the truth.

I have no idea if he could change or not but I think they were both immature and both mean toward each other. The judge remarked on both of them drinking whenever either tried to say something negative about the other...including when they talked about each other cheating on each other. Cheating doesn;t say much about either one of them, most especially when children are in the picture. I think Dale and Michelle used to provoke each other. Obviously they got over it or there'd be tons of court docs that we'd have found informing Michelle was seeking a no contact order between Dale & their twins. Instead what we see is her dropping them off to Dale and her family saying that they know they had a yucky relationship together but they moved on & did better for their kids. I seriously think they both were embarassed & felt bad, realized they weren't good together, then broke up for good.

I think Michelle is a beautiful gal with a wonderful personality. There's a lot of people that care about her and are worried about her. She deserves to be found, hopefully alive, but it's not looking good right about now.

 

[SmoothOperator]

From what I've seen of the court show it certainly seems to me that if anything Dale might just derive a little enjoyment out of the show, rather than anger and explosive fit over it.. I mean Michelle pretty much was raked over the coals and IMO Dale was likely fearing that it'd be him that receiving all the raking over the coals and feared Michelle would come out smelling like a rose(while at the same time I believe he hoped for the opposite to happen).. And the way it seems to me is if there any winners that day it was Dale with his being reimbursed $2500, Michelle in no way getting off lightly with the judge, and at the end got the final word in stating that as recent as just the night prior Michelle was contacting him saying she wanted to get back together..

So all in all when ppl keeping saying the show likely sent Dale into a tailspin erupting in old wounds being opened??.. Well, I just dont see it at all.. I do not think he came out looking any worse than Michelle did on the show and I believe he was likely pleased with that..

So from there I ask is it possible with Michelle showing up with the twins at 3:18pm and IMO Dale likely had just finished watching the show a few mins before she pulled up.. So could it be him that was laughing, enjoying having Michelle look so badly on the show and he begins to taunt her jokingly about it?? No harm per se intended but more just to get a rise out of her a poke a little fun at her rep taking a good raking thru the coals on the show??? I believe that's definitely possible.. I also know that Michelle hated everything that had to do with that show and wanted badly for it all to just disappear, so when Dale starts ribbing her over the really bad memory of the show and what all it entailed.. Well.. actually it is Michelle who I can see that just loses It at that Point!! His poking fun, I could see it setting her off big time(I believe they both were volatile in that poisonous relationship).. So could it have been Michelle that exploded on Dale when he brought up the show and just what a doozy the judge had done on Michelle making sure that she understood she was not the innocent there in that relationship..
Judge making clear her opinion and Dale enjoying Michelle's embarrassment/humiliation of the entire deal and this sent Michelle into the tail spin.. This for me is much more believable than Dale exploding.. Jmo, tho!!

I could see Michelle really cutting back deep at Dale with God knows what she could have brought up, possibly even throwing her new love into the mix as she new this hurt Dale.. What I'm saying is in looking at Dale as a possibility what I just described ^above^ fits a helluva alot more than does the Dale exploding over the show!! Anyone else!?

I know some have moved on from Dake and that's great I believe any/all possibilities should be looked at.. But I personally have ALOT THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO DALE AND MICHELLE.. therefor IMOO that's still an avenue I'm looking into.. To each their own.. Hopefully someone can come up with something.. Anything.. Even tiny that could bring Michelle home.. I believe that is one thing we can all agree on that we want Michelle found and brought home..

All jmo, tho!!

*sorry for typos and jumbled even more than usual.. Multi-tasking..lol*

 

[Reality Orlando]

It looks like he owns the unit.

http://www.ocpafl.org/Searches/ParcelSearch.aspx/PID/302323120597030

and it can be found here too.

http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/viewDoc.jsp?node=DOCC29821500

Good find, Sparky. Can you tell how long he's owned it? I wonder if Michelle lived there while they were together?

 

[Sparky]

From the FB page...

Does Kidfinders have there search and recovery boat in the waters?..And mobile billboards with Michelle's picture and information on it?


http://www.facebook.com/michelleparkermissingperson

 

[Sparky]

Good find, Sparky. Can you tell how long he's owned it? I wonder if Michelle lived there while they were together?

It looks like May 2008.

 

[katydid23]

I don't think mother's (or father's) who leave an abusive relationship should ever have to exchange the children at the abusers place of residence. I think it should be mandatory for everyone going through custodial issues to meet at a public place until the courts can deal with what needs to be in place.

My sister was one of those mother's back when my niece was 2-years-old. The courts made it so that they had to meet in the police station parking lot to exchange custody of my niece. Never was she forced to meet him at his place and he was never to meet her at her place. He never knew where she lived and instead gave him a P.O. Box address (court ordered) to send what he needed to send my niece (he never did anyways). My niece is now 17-years-old and my sister still has the P.O. Box. Nothing in 13 years. Her phone number has never changed... no phonecalls in 13 years. His loss!!

I know it is now a moot point in this case, but even if it reaches one person leaving an abusive relationship where children are involved, they will think of meeting at a public place to exchange the children. Even a McDonald's or Chucky Cheese. Something where there are a lot of people coming and going.

I have no idea if Michelle left Dale's house on her own or not... but it's still good advice to be out there. Unless there is a court order forcing the parent to drop the child/ren off at their abusers private resident then you don't have to meet them there.

Prayers with Michelle and her family!

I agree. It is for the ex husband's benefit as well, imo. Look at all of the suspicions about Dale now and he may be innocent. [ although I am not convinced.]