FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #21

[Thor]

I think you are missing the MUCH larger elephant in the room...Dale was the last known person to see Michelle when she arrived at 3:18 p.m. on Nov. 17. It has been reported that after her arrival, Dale immediately took the children to his parents' home... arriving at Rose Blvd by 4:30 p.m....according to Dale's own attorney.

I have driven from Carter Glen to Rose and back at least a dozen times...sometimes during the exact time of day Michelle went missing and it has never taken me more than 30 minutes to complete the trip. It normally takes about 20 minutes but let's stipulate it took him 30 minutes....he still should have arrived at Rose by 4:00pm not 4:30pm. Dale actually had time to go to his parents, drive back to his condo, and then go back to Rose again! What did Dale do with this extra 30+ minutes? No one has been able to explain why it took Dale over an hour to get to his parents. So IMO there are 30 unaccounted minutes to hide evidence.

His lawyer told reporters it wasn't "physically possible" for Smith to kill Michelle, dispose of her body, dump her car and drive their children to his parents house in 72 minutes. I disagree with MN! Yet another MAJOR issue is there in no report of Dale remaining at his parents' house after arriving. So IMO Dale is unaccounted for from 4:30 until at least 8:00 given him 3.5 hours to hide evidence.

My point was in fact simple and IMO pretty straightforward, that he was not true that it is a fact that Dale's attorney contradicted Dale's statement about MP's arrival at the condo. In this case the poster was arriving at that particular conclusion by simply attributing to DS an hearsay statement made by M's sister.

Nothing more nothing less then that.

As for the larger picture here, as far as I am concerned, this is just one example of many, of why I would not be surprised if it turns out that DS is responsible for the war in Afghanistan. Other people's opinions may vary or differ altogether. IMO

 

[What'sThatClue]

Lots of young people have blocked arteries due too many factors. It could be genetic, diet, drugs, smoking. I have had 3 friends in their 40's that have had heart attacks. Once you have a heart attack if a certain percentage of you heart dies off you can go into heart failure due to your heart ejection fraction being too low which can cause circulatory problems and things just snowball from there over time.

Plus, she could have had a problem during her pregnancy, such as hypertension. It's very common. Happened to me, in fact. So perhaps something like that is the reason LE jumped on the missing person report so quickly---jmo, much more quickly than if there'd been no history of a physical problem. Perhaps it's a routine question when a person is reported missing---is there any history of...? And even if the problem occurred 3 years prior during her pregnancy, the answer would still be yes and LE would jump on that immediately, well before any other missing person case (with the exception of children, elderly, endangered). JMO And the perp might not have imagined that the family would report her missing so quickly but even if they did, he wouldn't imagine that a physical problem would be mentioned hence LE would act so quickly. Caught him by surprise, so to say. JMO

 

[Thor]

... His lawyer told reporters it wasn't "physically possible" for Smith to kill Michelle, dispose of her body, dump her car and drive their children to his parents house in 72 minutes. I disagree with MN! Yet another MAJOR issue is there in no report of Dale remaining at his parents' house after arriving. So IMO Dale is unaccounted for from 4:30 until at least 8:00 given him 3.5 hours to hide evidence.

You may disagree of course, but Dale's attorney has, if I am understanding this correctly, the sworn statement by Sr. that puts DS at his house at 4:30pm. Now arguably this is not much since it comes from Sr, but it is one more evidence for the defense then the police have in order to accuse Dale of the crime since there is nothing on the record that refutes Sr's statement.

 

[What'sThatClue]

You may disagree of course, but Dale's attorney has, if I am understanding this correctly, the sworn statement by Sr. that puts DS at his house at 4:30pm. Now arguably this is not much since it comes from Sr, but it is more then the police have in order to accuse Dale of the crime since there is nothing on the record that refutes Sr's statement.

So, Sr was the mystery witness that placed Dale at his house at 4:30pm?
Got a link? TIA

 

[Thor]

So, Sr was the mystery witness that placed Dale at his house at 4:30pm?
Got a link? TIA

I thought that was the case, clearly somebody (if not SR) is claiming in a statement that Dale was at Sr. at 4:30 pm bc it was part of the now famous 72 mins defense by DS' attorney. I may be wrong here though, please correct me if I am wrong.

Ok I get it (I think), Dale states he was at Sr. at 4:30 pm, and it is reasonable to infer that the DS' family or Sr., whomever, does not refute that statement since it is later used by DS' attorney as a crucial part of his (Dale's attorney) 72 mins defense. Would that be correct?

 

[What'sThatClue]

I thought that was the case, clearly somebody's is claiming in a statement that Dale was at Sr. at 4:30 pm bc it was included in the now famous 72 mins defense by DS' attorney. I may be wrong here though, please correct me if I am.

Yes, I remember it was stated that there was a witness, I just don't remember it ever being mentioned who that witness was. TY

 

[Jazzmaster]

My point was in fact simple and IMO pretty straightforward, that he was not true that it is a fact that Dale's attorney contradicted Dale's statement about MP's arrival at the condo. In this case the poster was arriving at that particular conclusion by simply attributing to DS an hearsay statement made by M's sister.

Nothing more nothing less then that.

As for the larger picture here, as far as I am concerned, this is just one example of many, of why I would not be surprised if it turns out that DS is responsible for the war in Afghanistan. Other people's opinions may vary or differ altogether. IMO

I don't believe Dale started the war on terror In Afghanistan but IMO he certainly was terrorizing Michelle and ultimately killed her...

 

[Thor]

Yes, I remember it was stated that there was a witness, I just don't remember it ever being mentioned who that witness was. TY

Ok now we have at least one person (Sr or the family) putting Dale at Sr. home at 4:30 pm, and the police with no evidence of the contrary since there is nothing on the record that refutes that particular account.

 

[Jazzmaster]

I thought that was the case, clearly somebody (if not SR) is claiming in a statement that Dale was at Sr. at 4:30 pm bc it was part of the now famous 72 mins defense by DS' attorney. I may be wrong here though, please correct me if I am wrong.

Ok I get it (I think), Dale states he was at Sr. at 4:30 pm, and it is reasonable to infer that the DS' family or Sr., whomever, does not refute that statement since it is later used by DS' attorney as a crucial part of his (Dale's attorney) 72 mins defense. Would that be correct?

Senior providing an alibi/witness for Dale...if true...isn't that kind of like Bonnie saying Clyde didn't steal a thing! Lol

 

[Jazzmaster]

You may disagree of course, but Dale's attorney has, if I am understanding this correctly, the sworn statement by Sr. that puts DS at his house at 4:30pm. Now arguably this is not much since it comes from Sr, but it is one more evidence for the defense then the police have in order to accuse Dale of the crime since there is nothing on the record that refutes Sr's statement.

Again if true...so what? The witness if it is Sr would lose instant credibility with ANY jury in America IMO...unless he could supply some pot and pay off the jurors. But in all seriousness we still have 30 unaccounted for minutes PRIOR to his arrival and AT LEAST 3 hours unaccounted for AFTER he arrives and thus he is STILL the ONLY suspect because IMO his alibi didn't quite check out...

 

[Thor]

Senior providing an alibi/witness for Dale...if true...isn't that kind of like Bonnie saying Clyde didn't steal a thing! Lol

I was not trying to infer an opinion I was trying to establish some facts since there are so few to go around.

 

[Jazzmaster]

I was not trying to infer an opinion I was trying to establish some facts since there are so few to go around.

By establishing some facts do you have a link of who the witness is? You claimed Sr so that was either an opinion or with a link it could be a fact. I'm confused by what your point was or is...Sorry I'm not getting much sleep these days pondering how much Dale is costing us FL taxpayers with all the government welfare and costs he is running up with the games he's playing. JMO

 

[What'sThatClue]

I was not trying to infer an opinion I was trying to establish some facts since there are so few to go around.

Sorry, I can't find any MSM article where the witness is identified. All I can find are many articles with MN's statement on that. Here's just one:

http://www.wesh.com/Cellphone-Disco...ion/-/11788876/13122896/-/wivyko/-/index.html

. Nejame said a witness can verify that by 4:30 p.m. that same day, Smith arrived at his parents' house with the kids in tow.

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/Cellphone-Disco.../13122896/-/wivyko/-/index.html#ixzz1x2RFrQFH

 

[Jazzmaster]

I wonder if LE has been able to track down ALL the women Dale has beaten or threatened to kill...I would imagine it's a long list based on just the ones we know about. How many women were lucky to get away alive... Probably quite a few ladies thinking, "I'm sure glad I got out while I could"...

 

[Thor]

Sorry, I can't find any MSM article where the witness is identified. All I can find are many articles with MN's statement on that. Here's just one:

http://www.wesh.com/Cellphone-Disco...ion/-/11788876/13122896/-/wivyko/-/index.html

Ok I said,

"Ok now we have at least one person (Sr or the family) putting Dale at Sr. home at 4:30 pm, and the police with no evidence of the contrary since there is nothing on the record that refutes that particular account. "

ok I will change it to

"Ok IMO now we have at least one person (Sr or the family) putting Dale at Sr. home at 4:30 pm, and it is a fact the we don't know that the police have any evidence of the contrary since there is nothing on the record that refutes that particular account. "

Ok, I think that should do it.

 

[What'sThatClue]

Ok I said,

"Ok now we have at least one person (Sr or the family) putting Dale at Sr. home at 4:30 pm, and the police with no evidence of the contrary since there is nothing on the record that refutes that particular account. "

ok I will change it to

"Ok IMO now we have at least one person (Sr or the family) putting Dale at Sr. home at 4:30 pm, and it is a fact the we don't know that the police have any evidence of the contrary since there is nothing on the record that refutes that particular account. "

Ok, I think that should do it.

Thanks, but I was thinking and researching off this post too, to help find facts:

You may disagree of course, but Dale's attorney has, if I am understanding this correctly, the sworn statement by Sr. that puts DS at his house at 4:30pm. Now arguably this is not much since it comes from Sr, but it is one more evidence for the defense then the police have in order to accuse Dale of the crime since there is nothing on the record that refutes Sr's statement.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Ok I said,

"Ok now we have at least one person (Sr or the family) putting Dale at Sr. home at 4:30 pm, and the police with no evidence of the contrary since there is nothing on the record that refutes that particular account. "

ok I will change it to

"Ok IMO now we have at least one person (Sr or the family) putting Dale at Sr. home at 4:30 pm, and it is a fact the we don't know that the police have any evidence of the contrary since there is nothing on the record that refutes that particular account. "

Ok, I think that should do it.

Much better. Great work Thor... I really appreciate your contributions and how much you add to our little community here. Keeping us on our toes!

 

[missingm]

:truce:

 

[Thor]

Again if true...so what? The witness if it is Sr would lose instant credibility with ANY jury in America IMO...unless he could supply some pot and pay off the jurors. But in all seriousness we still have 30 unaccounted for minutes PRIOR to his arrival and AT LEAST 3 hours unaccounted for AFTER he arrives and thus he is STILL the ONLY suspect because IMO his alibi didn't quite check out...

I have no personal interest in attacking the character of Sr. As in the case of Dale he has not been accused by LE of being complicit in the disappearance of MP.

Also if smoking and/or having a pot of pot (Lol) :jail: is a serious crime then possibly we would not have enough jails to hold all convicted felons. I suspect that is why the police don't usually raid college dorms, if at all. :rocker: IMO

Also It is reasonable to infer that a family testimony on behalf of a defendant does not carry the same weight as say a stranger's. However if the police cannot refute that testimony, then IMO that testimony (of the family) becomes much more relevant, especially in a context where the police need to put the accused in the same place as the victim when the alleged crime occured. IMO

 

[telemag]

I wonder if LE has been able to track down ALL the women Dale has beaten or threatened to kill...I would imagine it's a long list based on just the ones we know about. How many women were lucky to get away alive... Probably quite a few ladies thinking, "I'm sure glad I got out while I could"...

How many are there?