FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #22

[What'sThatClue]

Yep, I think the whole Star Trek costume thingy is surreal or at list idiotic ... but say ... do you think he might have used the light saber as a weapon?

Anything is possible.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Yep, I think the whole Star Trek costume thingy is surreal or at list idiotic ... but say ... do you think he might have used the plastic light saber as a weapon?

Just wondering why the use of "Star Trek" on a consistent basis when anyone who follows this case clearly knows Dale is into "Star Wars" and not "Star Trek"...BIG DIFFERENCE. They do not use light sabers in Star Trek...Just saying!

 

[What'sThatClue]

Just wondering why the use of "Star Trek" on a consistent basis when anyone who follows this case clearly knows Dale is into "Star Wars" and not "Star Trek"...BIG DIFFERENCE. They do not use light sabers in Star Trek...Just saying!

:floorlaugh: Flew right past me! Ty, Jazz!

 

[Thor]

Just wondering why the use of "Star Trek" on a consistent basis when anyone who follows this case clearly knows Dale is into "Star Wars" and not "Star Trek"...BIG DIFFERENCE. They do not use light sabers in Star Trek...Just saying!

:floorlaugh: Star Wars, Star Trek they all fly HIGH (in space-ed) ... light sabers, photon guns, BEAM ME UP SCOTTY! what's the difference really? I still think it likely what follows:

1. He might have used his plastic light saber at some point or another as a weapon.

2. He at some point got beamed up into some spaceship (virtually) not necessarily by Scotty.

3. He has some personal relationship with a Darth Vader wanna be, whose evil intent are notorious.

JMO

 

[Jazzmaster]

:floorlaugh: Star Wars, Star Trek they all fly HIGH (in space-ed) ... light sabers, photon guns, BEAM ME UP SCOTTY! what's the difference really? I still think it likely what follows:

1. He might have used his plastic light saber at some point or another as a weapon.

2. He at some point got beamed up into some spaceship (virtually) not necessarily by Scotty.

3. He has some personal relationship with a Darth Vader wanna be, whose evil intent are notorious.

JMO

So you FINALLY admit Dale is behind Michelle's disappearance? :what:
LOL

 

[Thor]

So you FINALLY admit Dale is behind Michelle's disappearance? :what:
LOL

Jazz, if I needed a bodyguard I would hire you.

 

[What'sThatClue]

Light Sabers do have metal hilts tho. At least the more expensive ones do. But I do doubt it would be a weapon of choice here.

More likely a costume bag could be used to at least transport an incapacitated person tho.

 

[Skully]

Oh, I don't know, how about a suit case with wheels? Still on the fence but if you wanted to get someone out of a place and not carry them or look like you were taking a body out, this would be one way. NO? If she did die in the condo that would be my guess, but if it is outside of the condo, who knows?

http://www.abc-7.com/story/19337027...x-husband-points-investigators-to-womans-body

I posted stats before, but no one commented on them. Here ya go again. Guys seem to just toss a body close to home in the woods and for some reason no one can find them. I do understand that amount of ground that has to be covered is emense. And to drain all the lakes is just crazy, but if she is on land and you look in water you won't find her, and vice vera. So I think that is why LE tries to get the person to talk. You could search for years and never cover all the land you have to search. Don't forget if a body is buried it is even harder to find, verses just tossed in the woods.

 

[Skully]

Oh, had another dream about MP, but this is not the dream thread but she is still on my mind. Got a handle on the other two.

 

[Skully]

I have to say I am as frustrated as both sides on this case. I could sit down and write out a threory that would support 3 versions of what could have happened, One for DS killing her, One for her leaving, and One for SODDI. All would have pretty much the same weight that we have in the first. But I won't it would just cause bickering and I would have to give up stuff I don't want to.

So here is the problem for me, there is no "connection" no "bridge" if you will; to connect anyone to MP and her missing. Now we have some history, but that is not enough, we have some circumstancial evidence, but that won't get you to court and a sure fire conviction. So I think and this is JMO, you have to find some other connection, another bridge, maybe one you haven't tried before. Like if a person is suspect in a missing person case, but maybe you can't prove it; is there some other crime you haven't connect to that person before? Like with Peterson, they couldn't find wife four? so they reopend the 2nd wife's death investagation and bingo, he is under arrest. I am just thowing out an example. Sometime you have to go back and "listen" to what people say, more than one time, you have to open up your mind and do it again.

Going back to that glass of wine now.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Jazz, if I needed a bodyguard I would hire you.

Can I dress as goofy if I become your body guard? Just wondering...lol

 

[GrammaMaybe]

I may be mistaken and I'm sure someone can correct me if I am, but I believe that the children were interviewed once shortly after Michelle disappeared and only for a short time. Now that may have been when DFS was involved and removed the children from DSJr's custody for a brief period just prior to the emergency court hearing.

MOO

Colored & pouffed by me.


From working with traumatized kids I've learned:

In the beginning multiple sessions are usually necessary to gain the child's trust.

At the twins age, most disclosure is done through drawings and play.

There are research tools to help the therapist interpret drawings (For example: xy% of chimneys with smoke indicate conflict in the house. 100% of girls who draw this have been sexually molested [in 3 studies])

Play often begins symbolically and some symbols are easy to interpret.

If the twins were allowed to visit with Yvonne, Gail, or Lauren, over a period of time, the women would see the children playing in ways that would alert any minimally trained therapist to what they knew/saw.

The murderer would not want the children around the women/men who know them. Eventually their play would tell what they know.

 

[GrammaMaybe]

IMO all three of those things point to the fact that this was unlikely done by a random stranger. Very unlikely.

If Michelle had been abducted from her vehicle by a random stranger, most likely for sexual purposes, then the Hummer would have been found with cell phone inside and decals intact not far from where her body was found.

Random sexual predators and murderers do not go about playing hide and seek with evidence. They are compelled to do what they do for their own sick purposes and they are quick and efficient when they manage to get a hold of a victim. It's a crime of opportunity and they act on it when the mood strikes them. Then they leave the victim and all of their belongings, with perhaps the exception of any cash they may have had on hand (her purse was not touched and everything was intact), and they get away from the crime scene. They don't go to the trouble to try and frame someone else and move evidence all over a highly populated urban area. And to lug a likely deceased body to a good hiding place.

No...that thread seems to lead to someone known to the victim who was trying to cover tracks as to not get caught. Because the body would likely yield the evidence to point to someone who would have been considered by LE in her known circle of friends/acquaintances.

MOO

Colored & Pouffed by me.

MOO MOO MOO

Seems right on to me, especially it's being a crime of opportunity.

Since we can rule out an impetuous mad murderer, that leaves friends/acquaintances who have a reason to be angry with her.

Know anyone who fits that description?

 

[Thor]

I have to say I am as frustrated as both sides on this case. I could sit down and write out a threory that would support 3 versions of what could have happened, One for DS killing her, One for her leaving, and One for SODDI. All would have pretty much the same weight that we have in the first. But I won't it would just cause bickering and I would have to give up stuff I don't want to.

So here is the problem for me, there is no "connection" no "bridge" if you will; to connect anyone to MP and her missing. Now we have some history, but that is not enough, we have some circumstancial evidence, but that won't get you to court and a sure fire conviction. So I think and this is JMO, you have to find some other connection, another bridge, maybe one you haven't tried before. Like if a person is suspect in a missing person case, but maybe you can't prove it; is there some other crime you haven't connect to that person before? Like with Peterson, they couldn't find wife four? so they reopend the 2nd wife's death investagation and bingo, he is under arrest. I am just thowing out an example. Sometime you have to go back and "listen" to what people say, more than one time, you have to open up your mind and do it again.

Going back to that glass of wine now.

I think we're grasping at straws here ... most crimes are solved early on, some take some time, very few are solved after long periods of time. If DS did it, there can be no expectations that one day he'll wake up, have a crisis of conscience and go to the police to turn himself in. If the police had the goods on him he would have been arrested by now, everything else is wishful thinking and an attempt to prove a point that cannot be possibly proven but you want to anyway just because. I still don't see how you get to hope to solve this disappearance without a body and there lies the frustrations for the police and the unimaginable anguish of the family. JMO ,

 

[Skully]

I think we're grasping at straws here ... most crimes are solved early on, some take some time, very few are solved after long periods of time. If DS did it, there can be no expectations that one day he'll wake up, have a crisis of conscience and go to the police to turn himself in. If the police had the goods on him he would have been arrested by now, everything else is wishful thinking and an attempt to prove a point that cannot be possibly proven but you want to anyway just because. I still don't see how you get to hope to solve this disappearance without a body and there lies the frustrations for the police and the unimaginable anguish of the family. JMO ,

I absolutely understand where you are coming from. But straws are all they have, for now. I say for now, because maybe some place in the future, there will be some connection to some one and Michelle and her disappearance. I feel that if you can't see the connection where you are looking, maybe you need to look somewhere else. Because it may lead you back to where you were, or not. But to keep looking in "water" and she is on "land" or to keep looking at any place too long, you may miss something else. Michelle is gone, that is the only thing I know for sure in this case, all the rest is just my reality as I perceive it about what I have read or heard. Maybe I am interpreting it incorrectly. Understand? Thank you for your thougtful reply I love your posts!

 

[Jazzmaster]

Wonder if Dale enjoyed himself at the Rosen Centre last night for C6. Bet he will enjoy the parties Saturday night too with MJ.

 

[Thor]

Wonder if Dale enjoyed himself at the Rosen Centre last night for C6. Bet he will enjoy the parties Saturday night too with MJ.

Jazz, you can't really fault him for living his life, and you wouldn't expect him to lock himself in his house and become an hermit and I know you think ... no ... you know that he's guilty (as you have expressed in many posts) but still, may be he doesn't think he's guilty, may be he just wants to live his life in piece, and may be, if he's innocent (which he is until proven guilty), he just might have a right to that?

 

[Jazzmaster]

Jazz, you can't really fault him for living his life, and you wouldn't expect him to lock himself in his house and become an hermit and I know you think ... no ... you know that he's guilty (as you have expressed in many posts) but still, may be he doesn't think he's guilty, may be he just wants to live his life in piece, and may be, if he's innocent (which he is until proven guilty), he just might have a right to that?

Well I am just glad to see he hasn't grown up yet. Boozing and drugs are a way of life...yea he is entitled to live it up and act like he is innocent. But he knows what he did and it's he who has to live knowing he took the life or at least played a role in killing the mother of his children...of that he must be proud and now has lived his dream of being like Anakin Skywalker...he can go on pretending to be a real man too but in my book where I come from scum of the earth like Dale eventually get what they have coming in this life or the next. His evil deeds will not go unnoticed. Though he is fond of the dark side, the light will eventually shine on him and his evilness will be exposed. He continues to show why he is an unfit Dad and why those grandparents like GP and YS deserve to have custody of the twinners. All JMO

 

[What'sThatClue]

Wonder if Dale enjoyed himself at the Rosen Centre last night for C6. Bet he will enjoy the parties Saturday night too with MJ.

Just goes to show that unless and until he is cleared he will always be noticed, always be looking over his shoulder, never sure if the person next to him or across the room is watching him and making note of his every move and/or is just a bystander interested in the case or an undercover LE or PI. No statute of limitations on murder so as long as he remains Prime Suspect he'll always be under scrutiny by someone, somewhere...always looking over his shoulder. I'd think he'd be desperate to clear himself for both this reason and for the sake of the twinners.

All jmo

 

[Jazzmaster]

Just goes to show that unless and until he is cleared he will always be noticed, always be looking over his shoulder, never sure if the person next to him or across the room is watching him and making note of his every move and/or is just a bystander interested in the case or an undercover LE or PI. No statute of limitations on murder so as long as he remains Prime Suspect he'll always be under scrutiny by someone, somewhere...always looking over his shoulder. I'd think he'd be desperate to clear himself for both this reason and for the sake of the twinners.

All jmo

Kind of reminds me of the 1984 hit by Rockwell "Somebody's Watching Me" that featured the late and great Michael Jackson. It has the famous line..."I always feel like somebody's watching me and I have no privacy"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody's_Watching_Me

Like they say "no sleep for the wicked. Wonder if Dale sleeps with one eye open?