FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #23

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I really hope if Dale meets a guy or girl to date that they do a google search on him and find all the dirt. May he have endless troubles as people google what a low life he is....when will he tell us where he hid Michelle? The twinners need their grandparents and family!!!! NGU. All jmo

Jazz, you do realize that your reply to my post has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make right? And you do remember also that I have said on many occasions that I do not wish to be drawn in discussions where people are called names and worse, especially on topics of unsubstantiated sexual preferences which in my opinion are highly inappropriate, to say the least, for the kinds of discussions we're having on the issues, and to make it clear again in case it wasn't before, that I speak only for myself here.

To highlight the real issue I'm going to quote myself immediately below:

" ... Michelle is still missing, let me repeat, Michelle is still missing and again that is not an opinion but the real fact that counts, what are the investigators doing? What is the next step? What can people do to help in a coherent and coordinated way? What is the strategy at the top? And those are the questions that needs factual answers in my opinion ..."

Now, since I value your opinions as I do all others, I wonder if you actually have an opinion on what I was saying since you replied to my post to begin with.
 
  • #942
Jazz, you do realize that your reply to my post has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make right? And you do remember also that I have said on many occasions that I do not wish to be drawn in discussions where people are called names and worse, especially on topics of unsubstantiated sexual preferences which in my opinion are highly inappropriate for the kinds of discussions we're having in this context, and to make it clear again in case it wasn't before, I speak only for myself here.

I'm going to quote myself below:

" ... Michelle is still missing, let me repeat, Michelle is still missing and again that is not an opinion but the real fact that counts, what are the investigators doing? What is the next step? What can people do to help in a coherent and coordinated way? What is the strategy at the top? And those are the questions that needs factual answers in my opinion ..."

Now, since I value your opinions as I do all others, I wonder if you actually have an opinion on what I was saying since you replied to my post to begin with.

So tough :peace:
 
  • #943
Jazz, you do realize that your reply to my post has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make right? And you do remember also that I have said on many occasions that I do not wish to be drawn in discussions where people are called names and worse, especially on topics of unsubstantiated sexual preferences which in my opinion are highly inappropriate, to say the least, for the kinds of discussions we're having on the issues, and to make it clear again in case it wasn't before, that I speak only for myself here.

To highlight the real issue I'm going to quote myself immediately below:

" ... Michelle is still missing, let me repeat, Michelle is still missing and again that is not an opinion but the real fact that counts, what are the investigators doing? What is the next step? What can people do to help in a coherent and coordinated way? What is the strategy at the top? And those are the questions that needs factual answers in my opinion ..."

Now, since I value your opinions as I do all others, I wonder if you actually have an opinion on what I was saying since you replied to my post to begin with.

Based on some online activity it is IMO Dale is a switch hitter and I would fear for anyone dating Dale whether it is a male or female. I guess I am fearful for ANYONE in his "inner circles"....He has a history of drugs, violence, and people SUDDENLY dying or disappearing. That is WHY I am SO concerned for Michelle's children. I see he goes to all these Jedi conventions. Where does he leave the twinners? With his hooligan family members? Those twinners deserve to be with Michelle's family. He made their mom disappear and now he is hoping they forget all about Michelle and her family. There is NO JUSTICE in that!!!! Just a reflection of the poor choices and horrible character of Dale Smith.

Now....as to my opinions on LE. From what I gather, LE has collected good amounts of evidence and have MORE than enough to continue to ONLY look at Dale Smith. There are NO other suspects. This is for VALID reasons! If there were even the SLIGHTEST possibility it COULD have been someone else those leads were pursued but EVERY detail points RIGHT back to Dale and accomplice(s). Not just one or two pieces of evidence BUT every single piece IMO.

Now where this gets complicated is prosecuting a case where you cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt. You get one and only one shot. If they found Michelle today or tomorrow IMO Dale would be arrested VERY quickly. then LE can prove Michelle is in deed deceased and lay out ALL of the evidence that lead to them declaring Dale Smith as the PRIME SUSPECT. Right now finding Michelle is like finding a needle in a haystack. Dale had hours and possibly days to hide and destroy evidence and if other(s) helped as I believe....Michelle's whereabouts may be hidden for a long long time unfortunately. Dale will mess up again based on his track record so we will wait for that day! NGU!

This is all JMO
 
  • #944
Based on some online activity it is IMO Dale is a switch hitter and I would fear for anyone dating Dale whether it is a male or female. I guess I am fearful for ANYONE in his "inner circles"....He has a history of drugs, violence, and people SUDDENLY dying or disappearing. That is WHY I am SO concerned for Michelle's children. I see he goes to all these Jedi conventions. Where does he leave the twinners? With his hooligan family members? Those twinners deserve to be with Michelle's family. He made their mom disappear and now he is hoping they forget all about Michelle and her family. There is NO JUSTICE in that!!!! Just a reflection of the poor choices and horrible character of Dale Smith.

Now....as to my opinions on LE. From what I gather, LE has collected good amounts of evidence and have MORE than enough to continue to ONLY look at Dale Smith. There are NO other suspects. This is for VALID reasons! If there were even the SLIGHTEST possibility it COULD have been someone else those leads were pursued but EVERY detail points RIGHT back to Dale and accomplice(s). Not just one or two pieces of evidence BUT every single piece IMO.

Now where this gets complicated is prosecuting a case where you cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt. You get one and only one shot. If they found Michelle today or tomorrow IMO Dale would be arrested VERY quickly. then LE can prove Michelle is in deed deceased and lay out ALL of the evidence that lead to them declaring Dale Smith as the PRIME SUSPECT. Right now finding Michelle is like finding a needle in a haystack. Dale had hours and possibly days to hide and destroy evidence and if other(s) helped as I believe....Michelle's whereabouts may be hidden for a long long time unfortunately. Dale will mess up again based on his track record so we will wait for that day! NGU!

This is all JMO

Jazz, respectfully, none of that has anything to do directly with my post. What that is an enumeration of charges, personal opinions, facts not on the record and more that you have been making for the last two years and it's practically pointless to argue them in their totality right now since we've been doing so for the last two years relentlessly. IMO

All I've said that I wish not to be drawn in discussions related to unsubstantiated sexual preference, name calling (no matter who's target of it) and involving DS's children in the same context of personal attacks against a particular individual(s). Now to be absolutely certain that I'm not misunderstood here, that is not intended to be a guideline on free speech for everybody to follow, that is only the way I'd like to conduct myself and nothing more, and I make no representations or characterizations about others, least of all presuming what people should or should not say, as a matter of fact you have made similar representations of DS before, one such an instance is a few posts before this one and perhaps you might have noticed that I had nothing whatsoever to say in response to it, I only made my observations when you responded directly to my post using language I have asked you politely and respectfully not to involve me with.

In the future though, having made my point as clear and eloquently as I could on numerous occasions, I will simply ignore even your reply to my posts when such a language is used, which is regrettable since I've enjoyed exchanging opinions with you in the past, lastly let me say that despite our disagreements there's no personal animosity or antipathy that I feel toward you personally.

Now, I'm going to try this one last time since you've responded to my post to begin with by re-quoting myself immediately below:

" ... Michelle is still missing, let me repeat, Michelle is still missing and again that is not an opinion but the real fact that counts, what are the investigators doing? What is the next step? What can people do to help in a coherent and coordinated way? What is the strategy at the top? And those are the questions that needs factual answers in my opinion ..."

Do you have an opinion on that without turning it into yet another another DS issue? And that is what I might be interested on and what was at the core of my original post and this one as I might add.

Now you might further notice the the above is not about DS, guilty or not guilty and all of that, it's about Michelle and what's also relevant to her disappearance notwithstanding what individual opinions are about DS. I wrote that question not to get into yet another DS this and DS that, but to hopefully start another discussion where ways to find Michelle is not limited to the issues and controversies surrounding DS but something larger and more practical IMO where finding Michelle is the issue first and foremost, unfortunately as it stands today there is nothing of consequence left where the fundamental priority is to find a missing woman and I'm going to quote myself yet again on this:

" ... There's seems to be a black hole where all kinds of responsibilities and accountability get sucked in in favor of constantly obsessing about controversies ..."

and that is because no questions seem to be raised about the Police and their effectiveness or more precisely the lack thereof, no real plans on how to proceed are known where failures are obvious, no coordinated and coherent efforts are clear that would take advantage of available resources, human and otherwise, which by now are probably rapidly disappearing, and I could go on but it's not necessary for the purpose of the point I'm trying to make, instead everything is about DS, still, after two years of promising indictment that never come, evidence that are never shown, always promising that tomorrow, or the next day .... soon we'll be proven right as if this was a context about being right or wrong .... and if it is .... NO, you have been proven wrong in your predictions for close to 2 years and it is so even as you keep on moving the goal post and that is a fact (being wrong in your prediction for close to two years is) and not just my opinion.

What this is factually and not rhetorically, is a tragedy compounded by the crisis in finding where Michelle is, no way to spin it another way, and we need some game changer, new strategies, from the Police and/or anyone else in the position to effectuate those changes, and that is what matters not yet another "DS" theory unsupported by any demonstrable evidence and where the failures of the coming to pass of those after all unnecessary predictions is not an occasion to re-evaluate individual beliefs but rather to double down of those beliefs that have been proven unsustainable two years into this tragedy.

JMO
 
  • #945
Jazz, respectfully, none of that has anything to do directly with my post. What that is an enumeration of charges, personal opinions, facts not on the record and more that you have been making for the last two years and it's practically pointless to argue them in their totality right now since we've been doing so for the last two years relentlessly. IMO

All I've said that I wish not to be drawn in discussions related to unsubstantiated sexual preference, name calling (no matter who's target of it) and involving DS's children in the same context of personal attacks against a particular individual(s). Now to be absolutely certain that I'm not misunderstood here, that is not intended to be a guideline on free speech for everybody to follow, that is only the way I'd like to conduct myself and nothing more, and I make no representations or characterizations about others, least of all presuming what people should or should not say, as a matter of fact you have made similar representations of DS before, one such an instance is a few posts before this one and perhaps you might have noticed that I had nothing whatsoever to say in response to it, I only made my observations when you responded directly to my post using language I have asked you politely and respectfully not to involve me with.

In the future though, having made my point as clear and eloquently as I could on numerous occasions, I will simply ignore even your reply to my posts when such a language is used, which is regrettable since I've enjoyed exchanging opinions with you in the past, lastly let me say that despite our disagreements there's no personal animosity or antipathy that I feel toward you personally.

Now, I'm going to try this one last time since you've responded to my post to begin with by re-quoting myself immediately below:

" ... Michelle is still missing, let me repeat, Michelle is still missing and again that is not an opinion but the real fact that counts, what are the investigators doing? What is the next step? What can people do to help in a coherent and coordinated way? What is the strategy at the top? And those are the questions that needs factual answers in my opinion ..."

Do you have an opinion on that without turning it into yet another another DS issue? And that is what I might be interested on and what was at the core of my original post and this one as I might add.

Now you might further notice the the above is not about DS, guilty or not guilty and all of that, it's about Michelle and what's also relevant to her disappearance notwithstanding what individual opinions are about DS. I wrote that question not to get into yet another DS this and DS that, but to hopefully start another discussion where ways to find Michelle is not limited to the issues and controversies surrounding DS but something larger and more practical IMO where finding Michelle is the issue first and foremost, unfortunately as it stands today there is nothing of consequence left where the fundamental priority is to find a missing woman and I'm going to quote myself yet again on this:

" ... There's seems to be a black hole where all kinds of responsibilities and accountability get sucked in in favor of constantly obsessing about controversies ..."

and that is because no questions seem to be raised about the Police and their effectiveness or more precisely the lack thereof, no real plans on how to proceed are known where failures are obvious, no coordinated and coherent efforts are clear that would take advantage of available resources, human and otherwise, which by now are probably rapidly disappearing, and I could go on but it's not necessary for the purpose of the point I'm trying to make, instead everything is about DS, still, after two years of promising indictment that never come, evidence that are never shown, always promising that tomorrow, or the next day .... soon we'll be proven right as if this was a context about being right or wrong .... and if it is .... NO, you have been proven wrong in your predictions for close to 2 years and it is so even as you keep on moving the goal post and that is a fact (being wrong in your prediction for close to two years is) and not just my opinion.

What this is factually and not rhetorically, is a tragedy compounded by the crisis in finding where Michelle is, no way to spin it another way, and we need some game changer, new strategies, from the Police and/or anyone else in the position to effectuate those changes, and that is what matters not yet another "DS" theory unsupported by any demonstrable evidence and where the failures of the coming to pass of those after all unnecessary predictions is not an occasion to re-evaluate individual beliefs but rather to double down of those beliefs that have been proven unsustainable two years into this tragedy.

JMO

Well IMO Dale is GUILTY and LE seems to agree with me. I have explained my position on WHY you cannot find Michelle without bringing Dale into the discussion BECAUSE he was the ONE who made her DISAPPEAR. It is not about name calling but YES it is an opinion and a MAJORITY one....the only game changer strategy I can think of is illegal. If you took Dale into custody and forced him to talk then and only then would you solve this....so that should give you some idea as to why LE's hands are tied. Despite having dozens of LE all coming to the same CONCLUSION that Dale is the one and ONLY suspect.MM has said this on numerous occasions. Dale is protected by the legal system and has used that to his advantage....hiding behind a high powered attorney RATHER than telling what he knows....We cannot bypass the law because Dale is good at covering his tracks and most likely had help destroying evidence and hiding Michelle...all jmo
 
  • #946
Well IMO Dale is GUILTY and LE seems to agree with me. I have explained my position on WHY you cannot find Michelle without bringing Dale into the discussion BECAUSE he was the ONE who made her DISAPPEAR. It is not about name calling but YES it is an opinion and a MAJORITY one....the only game changer strategy I can think of is illegal. If you took Dale into custody and forced him to talk then and only then would you solve this....so that should give you some idea as to why LE's hands are tied. Despite having dozens of LE all coming to the same CONCLUSION that Dale is the one and ONLY suspect.MM has said this on numerous occasions. Dale is protected by the legal system and has used that to his advantage....hiding behind a high powered attorney RATHER than telling what he knows....We cannot bypass the law because Dale is good at covering his tracks and most likely had help destroying evidence and hiding Michelle...all jmo

Jazz, this is entirely my fault and I really mean it. I keep on breaking one of my cardinal rule in here and that is to understand and accept when it's time to quit. You can take a horse to the water but you can't force him to drink it, and it's utterly immature of me to think otherwise. You win! What exactly I've no clue but you won it nevertheless.
 
  • #947
Where did Dale Smith hide Michelle?
 
  • #948
Jazz, this is entirely my fault and I really mean it. I keep on breaking one of my cardinal rule in here and that is to understand and accept when it's time to quit. You can take a Camel to the water but you can't force him to drink it, and it's utterly immature of me to think otherwise. YOU WIN!

Thor it is NOT about anyone winning here. There are no winners in this situation UNTIL Michelle is found....Dale is arrested....and the Twinners are back where they belong with Michelle's family. I sincerely appreciate your noble efforts to keep the dialogue going...BUT the truth remains that our wonderful state of Florida is enormous....even if we narrow it down to Orlando...it is still overwhelming. Even if we narrow Michelle's location down to a 20 mile radius...Dale and whoever helped him had PLENTY of time to make sure Michelle would not be found.

Unless someone stumbles upon Michelle or someone who knows what happened comes forward or Dale himself confesses....we go around and around again chasing our tails and UNFORTUNATELY this is EXACTLY how Dale jr and sr want it to be.... JMO
 
  • #949
Now Thor....you believe there are OTHER possibilities of what could have happened to Michelle, what are? What else could LE do....above and beyond what they have already done? Let's for the sake of argument conclude that LE has some pretty strong circumstantial that Dale killed Michelle but not enough for DA to feel comfortable prosecuting without a body and/or some forensics what would you advise they do? You bring up a lot of great questions and I mean no offense here....but what solutions can you bring? Thank you again for all of your time and effort in this case. I am sure Michelle's family appreciates your willingness and persistence to keep Michelle's case in constant discussion.
 
  • #950
Now Thor....you believe there are OTHER possibilities of what could have happened to Michelle, what are? What else could LE do....above and beyond what they have already done? Let's for the sake of argument conclude that LE has some pretty strong circumstantial that Dale killed Michelle but not enough for DA to feel comfortable prosecuting without a body and/or some forensics what would you advise they do? You bring up a lot of great questions and I mean no offense here....but what solutions can you bring? Thank you again for all of your time and effort in this case. I am sure Michelle's family appreciates your willingness and persistence to keep Michelle's case in constant discussion.

DS is a dead end (no pun obviously intended), he's the poster child by which police investigations get criticized fairly or unfairly and usually a combination of both, although one wouldn't realize that by simply reading this thread. As it stands the DA can't criminally charge him and if he's actually guilty they are not likely to find the evidence needed to prosecute him (or anyone else) today that they haven't in the two previous years unless by sheer chance or unless there's a change in strategy and I don't see any evidence of it at all.

I'm not going to argue this point anymore because it has become rather pointless from my point of view since I only bothered to argue it to shift focus on what the real issue is, to find Michelle, without which all this talk represent an exercise in futility, clearly I did not achieve what I had intended and actually quite the opposite since the more I try to say that DS, at least by now, is not the issue the more he becomes just that, and Michelle was, and continues to be an afterthought where and when DS continues to be front and center of what is left of this thread.

"... but what solutions can you bring? ..."

There are many things that can be done to find Michelle, and many discussions to be had on this issue and I have posted detailed ideas on that in previous posts, if you were to go back a few pages you'll find them I suppose and I'd be glad to discuss them should anyone be interested in them, what I will not do however is continuing on discussing DS as if I was a captain of an High School debating team, I'm way too old for that and I best leave that job to someone else until actual evidence are shown, DS or someone else is criminally charged or there's some other break in the case because to continue on arguing is beside the point and I haven't had anything new to say on DS in a long time except for the usual repetitions and repetitions and yet more repetitions in response to the repetitions, and repetitions and yet more repetitions of others, I'm emotionally drained by the futility of it all where that is concerned.

I'm sorry for Michelle, I'm sorry for her family, and I'm sorry for anyone who has been truly effected by this tragedy up-close and personal and that is the only thing left that comes to mind as I wrap up this post.

JMO
 
  • #951
DS is a dead end (no pun obviously intended), the DA can't prosecute him and they are not likely to find the evidence today that they haven't in two previous years in order to prosecute him (if he's guilty) unless there's a change in strategy and I don't see any evidence of it at all.

I'm not going to argue this point anymore because it has become rather pointless from my point of view since I only bothered to argue it to shift focus on what the real issue is, to find Michelle, without which all this talk represent an exercise in futility, clearly I did not achieve what I had intended and actually quite the opposite since the more I try to say that DS, at least by now, is not the issue the more he becomes just that, and Michelle was, and continues to be an afterthought where and when DS continues to be front and center of what is left of this thread.

"... but what solutions can you bring? ..."

There are many things that can be done to find Michelle, and many discussions to be had on this issue and I have posted detailed ideas on that in previous posts, if you were to go back a few pages you'll find them I suppose and I'd be glad to discuss them should anyone be interested in them, what I will not do however is continuing on discussing DS as if I was a captain of an High School debating team, I'm way too old for that and I best leave that job to someone else until actual evidence are known, DS is criminally charged or there's some break in the case, to continue on arguing is besides the point and I haven't had anything new to say on DS in a long time except for the usual repetitions and repetitions and yet more repetitions in response to the repetitions, and repetitions and yet more repetitions of others, I'm emotionally drained by the futility of it all where that is concerned.

I'm sorry for Michelle, I'm sorry for her family, and I'm sorry for anyone who have been truly effected by this tragedy up-close and personal and that is the only thing left that comes to mind as I try wrapping up this post.

Thank you Thor! I agree that nothing will change without a break in the case. I have poured hundreds of hours over the past couple of years in web researching, driving around the areas of interest, searching locations, and MUCH more that I cannot describe here and it is VERY frustrating to say the least.

I pray that this big break comes soon so Michelle can be brought home and her family and loved ones can have some closure. I get what you are saying and it makes perfect sense. I really do think Michelle's disappearance was premeditated and this is why there aren't any loose ends....jmo
 
  • #952
Now Thor....you believe there are OTHER possibilities of what could have happened to Michelle, what are? What else could LE do....above and beyond what they have already done? Let's for the sake of argument conclude that LE has some pretty strong circumstantial that Dale killed Michelle but not enough for DA to feel comfortable prosecuting without a body and/or some forensics what would you advise they do? You bring up a lot of great questions and I mean no offense here....but what solutions can you bring? Thank you again for all of your time and effort in this case. I am sure Michelle's family appreciates your willingness and persistence to keep Michelle's case in constant discussion.

"... What else could LE do....above and beyond what they have already done? ..."

I don't think the issue is for me to answer what the Police can do beyond what they already done because I'm not part of the investigating team and I cannot possibly have a clear answer on what has been done and can be done in the future, I think the issue is what has not been done by the investigators which is namely the achievement of the two primary objectives of this criminal investigation, first and foremost to find Michelle and second to bring the perp(s) to justice, and as I say so often that is a fact not an opinion and everything else is just talk, and I say this only to bring attention to what is factual and what is hypothetical, and the substantial difference between the two and I've talked at length on how that can be changed in terms of real strategies and not simply rhetorically.

JMO
 
  • #953
Thank you Thor! I agree that nothing will change without a break in the case. I have poured hundreds of hours over the past couple of years in web researching, driving around the areas of interest, searching locations, and MUCH more that I cannot describe here and it is VERY frustrating to say the least.

I pray that this big break comes soon so Michelle can be brought home and her family and loved ones can have some closure. I get what you are saying and it makes perfect sense. I really do think Michelle's disappearance was premeditated and this is why there aren't any loose ends....jmo

I think what you need here is a truly organized effort for people like you who are willing to devote their time to find Michelle. I have also talked at length about a true command and control apparatus that is capable of gathering available resources and to make use of them effectively and coherently and that is what is urgently needed. Understanding that that is much easier said then done, and that resources at this point might be precious little there is always logic to coordination and central control where there are any degree of efforts that are still feasible.

JMO
 
  • #954
Now Thor....you believe there are OTHER possibilities of what could have happened to Michelle, what are? What else could LE do....above and beyond what they have already done? Let's for the sake of argument conclude that LE has some pretty strong circumstantial that Dale killed Michelle but not enough for DA to feel comfortable prosecuting without a body and/or some forensics what would you advise they do? You bring up a lot of great questions and I mean no offense here....but what solutions can you bring? Thank you again for all of your time and effort in this case. I am sure Michelle's family appreciates your willingness and persistence to keep Michelle's case in constant discussion.

" ... but what solutions can you bring? ..."

Jazz, to answer a bit further your question I have dug up the contents of one of my previous post and I've cut and pasted it below:

1. Make a true interactive website that incorporates a bb just like this one. People need to participate in real time ... a shared experience ... ideas, comments, messages, discussions, anything else that you might think of.

2. Create several kinds of YouTube videos, trying to arouse different emotions, anger, pity, hope, civic duty, fear, resentment, justice and put faces and locations in them, and yes DS as well, there is a legal way to do it but check with an attorney on how since state and local laws may differ. DS is a public figure and as such there are plenty of leeway where freedom of speech is concerned.

3. Make petitions about anything reasonable, make noises, complain about everything, especially the police, it doesn't need to be fair it needs to be effective. Petition the Mayor, the Chief of Police, the city counsel and anyone you can think of ... again it doesn't have to be fair it needs to be effective.

4. If you can gather enough people demonstrate for action in front of the police station, point fingers, complain, if it happened to Michelle it can happen to anyone, no one is safe, everyone has stake in it ... other females have disappeared in the area, is it a pattern? What is the police doing?

5. Create a public event for Michelle and other victims that have disappeared , invite the media, again complain and then complain some more, it doesn't need to be fair it needs to be effective.

6. Don't continuously attack DS, not everyone agrees with you and you risk creating sympathies where ordinarily there would be none, do not demonize DS, there is a way to get your point across without it, more polished, more effective, everyone is entitled to justice and people respond better to dignified appeals and thoughtful thinking, then personal attacks ... there is a way to appear fair and considered while delivering devastatingly effective accusations at least from a PR point of view.

7. Ask to meet the Police Chief personally, ask what resources are being spent on Michelle's case, don't accept general "feel good" statements, heartfelt sympathies or promises, demand answers now, it doesn't need to be fair it needs to be effective.

Are there other ideas? May be better then these ones? Maybe more practical? Anyone?
 
  • #955
If anyone thinks DSJR premeditated this crime, where do you think he most likely picked out a place to dispose of Michelle?

Do you think he killed her in his condo? Or did he follow her out and ambush her? If he ambushed her, do you think it was at Walden Circle apts?

Do you think he had the kids with him the whole time, or do you think someone picked them up?
 
  • #956
I am not sure where Dale hid Michelle. Based on his social media activity before and after her disappearance I have a few locations of HIGH interest. I try to search some of these locations regularly with the knitting gals when I get the opportunity but there is SO much ground to cover. I have posted a few of the locales on here but would rather not spell out where I am looking because somebody watches this site to see how close we are....

To plan this disappearance was very easy IMO. All Dale needed was an accomplice (father and mother fit like a glove). Michelle comes into his condo. Dale ambushes Michelle and injects her with a drug that causes paralysis....mom takes the kids. Dad handles the vehicle. Dale places Michelle in his vehicle and heads out to finish the job.... No evidence left behind.

There are so many ways this could have been done but IMO Dale planned this day and this time for a reason. He had full control and obviously it has worked out well thus far.... He has full custody of the children,Michelle is out of the picture, her family has no part of the twinners life, and he gets to continue dressing up like the NAKED cowboy while double fisting drinks at his Jedi costume parties....seems way too convenient to me! All JMO
 
  • #957
I am not sure where Dale hid Michelle. Based on his social media activity before and after her disappearance I have a few locations of HIGH interest. I try to search some of these locations regularly with the knitting gals when I get the opportunity but there is SO much ground to cover. I have posted a few of the locales on here but would rather not spell out where I am looking because somebody watches this site to see how close we are....

To plan this disappearance was very easy IMO. All Dale needed was an accomplice (father and mother fit like a glove). Michelle comes into his condo. Dale ambushes Michelle and injects her with a drug that causes paralysis....mom takes the kids. Dad handles the vehicle. Dale places Michelle in his vehicle and heads out to finish the job.... No evidence left behind.

There are so many ways this could have been done but IMO Dale planned this day and this time for a reason. He had full control and obviously it has worked out well thus far.... He has full custody of the children,Michelle is out of the picture, her family has no part of the twinners life, and he gets to continue dressing up like the NAKED cowboy while double fisting drinks at his Jedi costume parties....seems way too convenient to me! All JMO



hi Jazz

Do you remember if any of his vehicles were 4 x 4 ???

or was the Hummer a 4 x 4?
 
  • #958
hi Jazz

Do you remember if any of his vehicles were 4 x 4 ???

or was the Hummer a 4 x 4?

Yes Dale owned a F150 at the time: http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#section/-1/gallery/p2p-66391611/

Additionally Michelle's Hummer was 4 wheel drive. Dale got the vehicle back but it was repossessed IMO. He doesn't seem to be able to pay for anything or keep any financial commitments. If you recall he was a dead beat dad that FAILED to pay child support on several occasions. Michelle had to take Dale to court and when she finally got support being deducted from his paycheck via a court order THEN she goes MISSING....Jazz smells a rat!
 
  • #959
Hi, can anyone tell me where the kids are? Are they in dales custody or Michelle's family?
 
  • #960
Hi, can anyone tell me where the kids are? Are they in dales custody or Michelle's family?

UNFORTUNATELY....Dale who I believe murdered Michelle has custody of the twinners. Not only that....he refuse to allow the grandparents or anyone in Michelle's family to see the children :(. Talk about a 🤬🤬🤬!!!!! Jmo
 
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