FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 4

[LostOldUserName]

I have been a long time member, but lost the old user name I did not follow CA. Can someone fill me in on what the problem with Kid Finders is?

 

[truthsleuth]

I'm not in a place where I can do graphics stuff, so hope I can make myself clear here...

At the top left of this map, there's "Seminole A"... follow that to the right, across the woods, and there is what looks to be an unpaved road that loops around some kind of outbuilding and possibly water. It looks like a good place to pull in, behind the building, and go into the woods without being seen...

Here's a better view:

The road to the right is S. Goldenrod. And, there's no outbuilding, just water.

 

[hollyblue]

Today Show is saying that the "twins" spent the night with Michelle's mother.
Mark NeJame and the other attorney on the show.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45490134#null

It's such a shame because these two made such a nice looking couple...and the kids are adorable. The little boy, in the pic by the RR tracks reminds me of Spanky of Our Gang. (telling my age) His little chubby arm and long shorts! It may turn out DS just wanted her for himself and had recently found out about the relationship with Nate. Nate and MP had only been seeing each other for a month....and didn't Nate say he hadn't met DS? DS might have had hopes of getting the relationship worked out (in his mind) and when Nate popped up...it was unacceptable to him. It could have been premeditated. imo

I think DS cares and loved his children.....and didn't really want the relationship with MP to end. ATM, it looks like he was getting himself together with steady work, paying child support and staying out of trouble, but I'm also convinced he couldn't control his anger issues. imo

 

[SuziQ]

Reading through some posts, I'm not sure if her phone actually pinged in the Waterford area or not.

LE said the phone did not ping in Waterford, leading them to believe the text was bogus.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Oh, so it is very possible that the group that showed up on 11/19, 11/20 was NOT even TES. Now that makes a lot of sense, because what was happening with the searches seemed very unorganized. Maybe the people that showed up was actually "Kid Finder's."

I always thought it was odd that TES was showing up because Tim was adamant about not ever going back into Florida.

Thank You, Patty G !!

I am just catching up, and when I read that Tim Miller was NOT in Florida for this search ...

I thought the same as you did ... so WHO was conducting the searches ...

MOO ...

 

[NCSleuth]

Because the edges can be seen, does this mean it was a cling on or not?

My guess it is a cling and came right off without any problem. Only took seconds.

I still think it was done right there at the condo. I think it was part of the fight. "you are driving my &**& Hummer and I want it back" type thing!

 

[Sparky]

Whatever the case might be the individual didn't have a lot of time. If it was DS he couldn't go far as he'd have no idea how soon the LE would show up at his home to ask about her whereabouts... So, I figure no more than 15 minutes drive time one way.

But if it was him then all he had to do was pull the Hummer, or van in the garage, place whatever he needed to place in one or the other, go drop the twins off and back to the condo.

OR

the red truck was already in the garage and it has a hard bed cover on it. (what do you call those) And it starts getting dark here at 5:30, so anywhere in that area is good, but I believe when you and I saw the searchers in Wedgefield and 528, the phone had pinged that area or the Hummer was seen going thru the toll booth (without Michelle in it) and that's why they were searching there.

I hate to type this but, if he did have something to do with Michelle's disappearance and she is no longer with us, then she may very well be found around the area of the condo. The phone pinging in other locations, may be do to the fact the phone was taken and used just to ping different towers.

 

[hollyblue]

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/custody-hearing-determine-who-will-care-missing-mo/nFqKH/

72 minutes minus 25 minutes is 47 minutes

Alicia Debolt....sodomized, murdered and burned in about an hours time...and the perp had to leave her body to go and buy the gas 7 miles away and return.

I hope the video tells all...and they are just waiting for certain lab tests to return before the arrest ---to cross and dot.

 

[Patty G]

Still need to figure out how Dale could drive TWO vehicles! I have to think that IF Dale did this, he acted alone.

 

[Sparky]

Still need to figure out how Dale could drive TWO vehicles! I have to think that IF Dale did this, he acted alone.

Take the twins to Rose Blvd, go back to condo take care of business, take Hummer drive around. Park Hummer at Apts, walk to Rose Blvd, get a ride home?

 

[WannaBePI]

Still need to figure out how Dale could drive TWO vehicles! I have to think that IF Dale did this, he acted alone.

IMO DS helped DSII. Domestic violence is a learned behavior. DSII had to have been witness to domestic violence at some point in his life. Maybe DS sympathizes with DSII anger issues and was willing to help with a cover up.

 

[What'sThatClue]

I have been a long time member, but lost the old user name I did not follow CA. Can someone fill me in on what the problem with Kid Finders is?

There's a thread in the Parking Lot:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79248&highlight=kid+finders

 

[Sparky]

Sparky, I just wanted to say, again, how sorry I am you are going throught this.. Also, your descriptions of the area are not only spot-on, they bring back many many memories of that area.

I was raised in Titusville and my folks still live there ... I spent many many hours on the St. Johns River .. and in places there is nothing for miles and miles, but miles and miles ..

I think of Michelle all day ..

Thank you TC! Then you know where the fish camp is, right at the Brevard Co. line. The river in that area is so high. Flooded. There is also the reserve a long 50, and Gator Jungle. Anywhere, down thru there all the way from Titusville to Orlando.

BTW I love Titusville. The people there are so nice!

 

[Patty G]

Nancy Grace Transcript - 11/29/11
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/29/ng.01.html

and for those that want Issues transcript where Jane states that the children are with Laurel Erickson

Issues - Transcript - 11/19/11
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/29/ijvm.01.html

 

[Patty G]

IMO DS helped DSII. Domestic violence is a learned behavior. DSII had to have been witness to domestic violence at some point in his life. Maybe DS sympathizes with DSII anger issues and was willing to help with a cover up.

Are there any complaints for domestic violence for Dale Sr.?

Parents fighting back and forth happens in many households. Michelle's mother even indicated she fought with her husband and her own sister.

 

[Patty G]

Take the twins to Rose Blvd, go back to condo take care of business, take Hummer drive around. Park Hummer at Apts, walk to Rose Blvd, get a ride home?

Looking for scenarios of Dale doing this alone. I have loads of them with someone helping him, but looking for ways of him doing this alone.

 

[andalso]

Not necessarily... It looks more like the window tint was trimmed... I can think of only one reason for trimming the window tint and that's to improve visibility for the driver.

As for a larger decal being easier to remove than individual letters, that's just not so... I've had experience in removing both and I've always found a single large decal much more difficult... There is a lot that comes into play on the decal, it's age, was it affixed to the inside or outside of the glass, (If inside then a rear defrost can make the removal even more difficult and time consuming.) It's not just a matter of scraping off a decal, there is the residue that has to be removed as well...

The point is who ever removed the decal had to spend at least 30 minutes doing it and that's doing a very crappy job of it. In order to do a good job you need at least an 1.5 - 2.0 hours. Otherwise you risk scratching the glass and leaving a shadow imprint of the image being removed.

BBM: I respectfully disagree. I also have had a good amount of experience with vinyl. What you mentioned about it depending on many factors I do agree with...it depends on the type/quality of the vinyl used and it's age. Some may peel off easily, others may be more difficult. But, it really looks more like 1 large piece to me and would easily peel off. I am talking minutes (or even less). Individual lettering would take longer to remove, but I doubt it would take 1.5 to 2 hours. I am thinking more like 15 minutes. If the decals are older, "goof off" works easily as a decal remover (doubting that was used, but could have been).

Why would this decal be on the inside? That is just not how it's done!

 

[Cazzie]

I think there is just a play on words coming out and that TES was only contacted recently by Mark for his client Tuesday afternoon.

TES apparently was contacted earlier based on Sparky's post and another member. Perhaps there is a lot of assumption that Dale originally called based on the Press Conference, and it clearly appears that is NOT the case.

I did not hear Mark state anything that Dale called TES first and so on, only that TES has been contacted by Mark for his client to do the search.

Tim stated his hesitation about coming back into Florida so that is leading me to believe that the "full blown" TES team was not in Florida, but perhaps a few TES searchers.

I am not going to throw Mark under the bus because of how the wording came out in the press conference. Just not going there!

What really matters to me is that Mark was able to get TES/Tim Miller back into Florida to search for Michelle, and Michelle is the most important at this point then a "play on words." IMO.

So confused.

Bottom line, plz?

 

[What'sThatClue]

If "Scam Finders" is here, they need to go back into the hole they crawled out of. They are not welcomed in this area.

And, I remember the comment Tim made about never setting foot in Florida again. I hope, even though he was lied to by a certain person, he will put that aside for now. His help is so desperately needed for Michelle's family and will be so much appreciated.

Not only that, but BKH has posted on their FB page that Eddie DelValle has been "leading the vigils for Michelle Parker's family."

Looks like many players are getting in line.

http://www.facebook.com/BringKidsHome

That aside, I'm thinking perhaps the local TES was searching, but Tim Miller has just been asked officially to come in. Heck, I don't know what else to think.

 

[ACandyRose]

This question may have been asked before so forgive me if I missed it, I'm getting old. :waitasec:

What about car seats for the twins? I assume Michelle had two sets of car seats in the Hummer for the twins but did Dale also have two separate sets of car seats in his truck?

If Dale didn't have his own set of car seats for the twins then I would assume that Michelle's had to be removed from her Hummer and put into his truck before she left his condo that afternoon.

Just thinking out loud here trying to fill in that magic 71 minutes !!

Good Lord, am I going to have to make another web page now titled, "Dale Smith's 71 Minutes!" :banghead:

ACR