FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 7

[Analyze This]

This is just my opinion, but I am unwilling to assume that Dale's parents or other family members were willing to help him cover up a murder. We know nothing about them. There are no media reports of criminal backgrounds for these folks and I honestly believe that the media would've been all over that if there was. I also have to remind myself that there are other people living in that home. In order for Dale's father to be covering for him those people would likely be forced to lie as well.

We also don't know what their reaction to Dale's past really is. They may have been very angry with him when those events initially happened. The fact that they allowed Dale's second wife to move in with them makes me think that they are people who believe in supporting family and would not be likely to shun a member of the family because of bad behavior.

Dale's drug use and the fact that Michelle referenced him being a mean drunk leads me to believe that his behavior may be a result of substance use/abuse. Making assumptions that he is violent because he grew up that way just seems unfairly prejudiced.

For these reasons, I feel that I need to stick to theories of Dale as a single perpetrator until other evidence comes to light.

All of this is just my opinion of course.

 

[WannaBePI]

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Dale's drug use and the fact that Michelle referenced him being a mean drunk leads me to believe that his behavior may be a result of substance use/abuse. Making assumptions that he is violent because he grew up that way just seems unfairly prejudiced.

For these reasons, I feel that I need to stick to theories of Dale as a single perpetrator until other evidence comes to light.

All of this is just my opinion of course.

I still stand by domestic violemce being a learned behavior. I have no proof that DSII grew up seeing domestic violence, but it's a fact that most abusers grew up witnessing abuse.

Link with domestic violence info http://http://www.domesticviolence.org/common-myths/

 

[Cblewife]

Can't agree more! I don't envy what they're going through and can't even imagine it. I'm guessing you put both feet forward looking for answers and all emotions on the back burner? Whatever happened, they really need some closure...

Agreed AND regardless of how many volunteers you get, searching is not free. I realize some think searching and all associated expenses is not the same as collecting for the twins future, but finding Michelle IS the most important thing for the twins.

 

[Cblewife]

Apologies if this is a repeat from last night. Thought it was interesting that dad is no longer holding back at all. He's always been direct....but... calling it as he see's it for sure.

"And, this goes to Dale. You're number one. You can't run and you can't hide. And, we're coming after you," said Brad Parker, Michelle's father, referring to Dale Smith, Jr.

"I know he did it. We just gotta prove it," he added.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Mi...ianc/-/1637132/4872034/-/cnvt9tz/-/index.html

 

[Nellie]

Domestic violence has been around for years and anyone having any dealings with it in their lives, knows what it does to a person. Learned behavior or not, it is what it is and there is no excuse for it whatsoever.
What we have here is a missing woman. For all of you defending DSII, don't you find it a little odd of his behavior now and in the past? Don't you find it a bit weird that trouble seems to follow him? Gosh, I mean if he didn't have bad luck, he wouldn't have any luck at all... Especially if he has worked so hard at changing his person.
The things that have happened in his life are not common occurrences in most peoples lives which to me would be why the LE are focusing on him.
No matter what goes on in relationships, nobody deserves to be VERBALLY, EMOTIONALLY OR PHYSICALLY abused.
Our society has covered up so much abuse in our lives that they have made it socially okay to do these kind of things and get away with it - all because it has gone on so many years...
From my experience with abuse, proud women cover it up. ...it takes a lot for it to finally come out because we are so scared of what the outcome will be.
Did Michelle say one to many words? It's hard to move away from the thought of DSII harming her because it just fits...:seeya:

 

[SindyBill]

IMO, the only way he could arrange for a "hit" would be via the phone at the prison or through the mail, of which, both are normally monitored and recorded.

Yeah, but it happens..jails slip up. Guards can be bribed..or they can be "sleeping on the job".

IE - more narcotics are in prisons than in the streets. He could have arranged it during a visit..there's coded messages, too..or it could have been pre-arranged. Just saying, it wouldn't be the first time. It is definitely not out of the realm of possibility. JMO.

 

[MelanieW]

Props to Michelles Dad for being straight up! Personally I am willing to bet if he got Dale alone in a room it would not take long for him to get Dale to tell him where Michelle is. Cowardly abusers like Dale are the weakest of all men, and when faced nose to nose with another man, they are never as tough they think they are when they are bullying a woman or a child. Sometimes I think it is a shame that violent offenders have the same rights and often times it seems like more rights than their victims :banghead:

 

[Patty G]

Yeah, but it happens..jails slip up. Guards can be bribed..or they can be "sleeping on the job".

IE - more narcotics are in prisons than in the streets. He could have arranged it during a visit..there's coded messages, too..or it could have been pre-arranged. Just saying, it wouldn't be the first time. It is definitely not out of the realm of possibility. JMO.

OK, it's a stretch especially since he would be bribing a "Marine Military Guard(s)".

I have a lot of respect for all Military personnel, so not running with a Marine Military guard up for a bribe to kill an American citizen.

Agree to disagree on this one! :blowkiss:

 

[truthsleuth]

Domestic violence has been around for years and anyone having any dealings with it in their lives, knows what it does to a person. Learned behavior or not, it is what it is and there is no excuse for it whatsoever.
What we have here is a missing woman. For all of you defending DSII, don't you find it a little odd of his behavior now and in the past? Don't you find it a bit weird that trouble seems to follow him? Gosh, I mean if he didn't have bad luck, he wouldn't have any luck at all... Especially if he has worked so hard at changing his person.
The things that have happened in his life are not common occurrences in most peoples lives which to me would be why the LE are focusing on him.
No matter what goes on in relationships, nobody deserves to be VERBALLY, EMOTIONALLY OR PHYSICALLY abused.
Our society has covered up so much abuse in our lives that they have made it socially okay to do these kind of things and get away with it - all because it has gone on so many years...
From my experience with abuse, proud women cover it up. ...it takes a lot for it to finally come out because we are so scared of what the outcome will be.
Did Michelle say one to many words? It's hard to move away from the thought of DSII harming her because it just fits...:seeya:

Like a glove, Nellie. It fits like a glove. JMHO

 

[TexasCharm]

OK, it's a stretch especially since he would be bribing a "Marine Military Guard(s)".

I have a lot of respect for all Military personnel, so not running with a Marine Military guard up for a bribe to kill an American citizen.

.... Or it could be as simple as one (or many) conversations with his bff that contains something like ... " .. If I end up in jail or my military career is hurt because of this b___h, you're gonna have to kill her .. Haha "

It appears that he has no problem rallying the troops to bully for him in support , ie. The outside-the-courtroom-scene from the other day...

imo

 

[Dion]

IMO, the only way he could arrange for a "hit" would be via the phone at the prison or through the mail, of which, both are normally monitored and recorded.

the last person with Wife2 before she died was his best friend. He would know of DS wishes without him having to spell it out.

His best friend gave one version of events to LE and (allegedly) another to DS. What best friend takes advantage of another man's wife like that and tells the husband what took place, unless they were in cahoots with each other.

My opinion only...

 

[Patty G]

I always have to keep in mind, that woman can be very verbally and emotionally abusive to a male also! However, most men that are abused by a female will hardly ever admit to it, or file a restraining order or even call the cops because of what a woman has done to them.

By no means, am I siding with Dale's behavior that is on record.

We have a prime example with regards to Sky Metalwala's parents and what happened in that family.

Heck, I have a prime example within my own family with my mother. I still carry my mother's abusive words in an "ongoing tape" in my head from time to time, and even though my mother has passed, the tape still rolls.

 

[nobodynoz]

Couple of questions for any of you in the know:

Didn't one or more of you mention at some point that DS Jr. and Sr. currently owns/works out of/has access to warehouses, garages, or properties elsewhere in Orlando/Central Florida? (Other than at the Rose Ave. address)

Do you know where any or all are located?

 

[Patty G]

If Dale's family wasn't rallying around him in support of him, then we would be thinking "see not even his family is there to support him". :crazy:

 

[Jaylergirl]

Today I was down 50 to 436 to Pershing, down Pershing to Goldenrod (very close to DS's condo) all the way down Goldenrod to 50 and home. No Flyers

Yesterday I was down Alafaya Trail past UCF, over to Red Bug and Tuskawilla and back and I didn't see any.

I keep hearing thousands of flyers have been passed out, but where are they?

The first week there were 2 billboards posted on 520 by Wedgefield. I don't know if they are still there since I haven't been down that way lately.

I'm in East Orlando & I have seen them all over the place here. Posted on stop signs (the pole), inside store windows, mailboxes, etc.

 

[Nellie]

I always have to keep in mind, that woman can be very verbally and emotionally abusive to a male also! However, most men that are abused by a female will hardly ever admit to it, or file a restraining order or even call the cops because of what a woman has done to them.

By no means, am I siding with Dale's behavior that is on record.

We have a prime example with regards to Sky Metalwala's parents and what happened in that family.

Heck, I have a prime example within my own family with my mother. I still carry my mother's abusive words in an "ongoing tape" in my head from time to time, and even though my mother has passed, the tape still rolls.

BBM
Of course there are women who are abusers but we aren't talking about a "missing man" here.
<modsnip>
Domestic violence must be stopped whether it is done by a man or WOMAN. There is NO defense for it PERIOD! Many, many times it never comes to light until someone has crossed the line.
All we have is a voice - until it is silenced. <modsnip> It's devastating...:twocents:

 

[Jaylergirl]

I am new to the community but have been lurking on your site for some time. I live within a few miles of where MP was last seen and I cannot help but feel for this family. I was raised in the area between DS Sr and DS Jr residence and I feel that DS would have taken the back road to eliminate Stop Light Cameras and staying on one lane road to keep exposure of vehicles down.

Since we know MP Hummer headed South on Goldenrod from DS Condo I feel the vehicle may have traveled the following route - West on Lee Vista to Conway, North on Conway to Hoffner and then West again to Orange Avenue, South about a quarter mile to West on Oakridge. The hummer could of then went to Millenia Boulevard North to West on Radenbaugh under I-4 to Vineland about 1/10 Mile to Walden. DS Jr could of made it to his father within 15 minutes, From DS SR to Walden is about 8 Minutes. This is the backroad and would have minimal traffic (two lane roads most of the way) so someone would of had to be directly behind MP Vehicle to notice it or on coming. There are also little subdivision in which the driver could of avoided Traffic Lights.

Now I get to this photo from the video camera in DS Condo area.

qpi637.png picture by AlwaysWright01 - Photobucket

If you notice MP Hummer came in before the sun started setting. You can see that two different hummers left this area and the one on the top left corner left after the sunset through the complex.

The Hummer in the top right appears to be a greystone metalic color and does not appear to be MP's

but

The Hummer in the top left appears to be the same hummer as MP without the decal, without the tire cover and without the simulators on the wheel. All these items are easily modified but make a heck of a difference in overall appearance.

Now to this white van - I do believe DS Jr. has a white work van. This van from shadows tells me it came in after MP's and either parked to block the camera or left twice. There is another way to get to DS Jr. Condo which is make the first Left in his complex.

I see this top left hand photo being MP's hummer stripped down and leaving after all these other photos in this collage.

The sun shadow tells alot about these photos.

I have a horrible feeling about MP missing and my heart goes out to her family and friends.

Is there anyway that you can make this picture bigger and post? What is the time stamp on the top left Hummer pic, the one you think leaving is MP's Hummer. It appears to be time stamped 17:17, which would be 5:17 PM. Is that what is says, 17:17????

Very fascinating!

 

[Cblewife]

I'm in East Orlando & I have seen them all over the place here. Posted on stop signs (the pole), inside store windows, mailboxes, etc.

Me too... they are all around Goldenrod/Aloma/436 area and I've seen some in Casselberry area too. =)

 

[lauriej]

Is there anyway that you can make this picture bigger and post? What is the time stamp on the top left Hummer pic, the one you think leaving is MP's Hummer. It appears to be time stamped 17:17, which would be 5:17 PM. Is that what is says, 17:17????

Very fascinating!

---that's what it looks like to me..

 

[Analyze This]

I don't think that anyone can defend DS JR's past behavior. He was clearly found guilty (with good reason) of Domestic Violence. He was also found guilty of violence against total strangers.

None of that is evidence that can be used against him in Michelle's disappearance. It makes him the most likely suspect, but does it make him the ONLY suspect?

The only way to answer that question is to look at the evidence, of which we have seen none. I respect OPD's decision to not reveal whatever evidence they have because the ultimate goal is to find Michelle and prosecute whoever is responsible for whatever crimes may have been committed. But, everyday that passes without an arrest worries me.