FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 7

[Private Dallasite]

---that's what it looks like to me..

I believe the neighbor said it had not changed the time after daylight savings rolled back.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

Is there anyway that you can make this picture bigger and post? What is the time stamp on the top left Hummer pic, the one you think leaving is MP's Hummer. It appears to be time stamped 17:17, which would be 5:17 PM. Is that what is says, 17:17????

Very fascinating!

I made it bigger by doing a "ctrl +"....the "+" being the one on the second keyboard on your computer, on the right. When you want to zoom back, just do "ctrl -".

It doesn't give too much detail...gets a little blurry.....I was trying to see the next time capture in the 2nd pic. BUT, I'm pretty positive it "might" be the same white van.
As it's parked on the street facing right (east??) the windows are on the 2 "side" doors to get to the rear area. Plus the ones on the rear doors.
When it's driving back left (west??)...there are no "side" doors, that's why it's "solid"...no windows.

But, I'm sure LE's checked the plates on the van.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

<modsnip>
As a former victim of domestic violence and as a social worker, I abhor domestic violence of any kind. As a resident of the State of Arkansas, I also abhor rushes to judgment based on appearances and questionable past behaviors.

Taking everything into consideration, I choose to focus on the facts of this present situation and not run to form a lynch mob. Bad things don't just happen to people involved with people who are pure as the driven snow. Bad things happen to people who have friends/family/acquaintances that have questionable pasts...and yet that does not mean the friends/family/acquaintances with questionable pasts have anything to do with the current crime. The latter is a primary reason why a person's history is usually not allowed in court...the current crime should stand to be proved based on its own merit, not colored by other factors.

At this point IMO we have not been given enough conclusive evidence to make a learned decision as to guilt or innocence. The "facts" being thrown about have been discounted and modified and misreported too many times already.

 

[Private Dallasite]

Check out the times here.IMG_0621.mp4 video by dixie6920 - Photobucket

 

[lauriej]

I believe the neighbor said it had not changed the time after daylight savings rolled back.

--tony pipitone then said that was incorrect.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #6

December 2/2011

I asked the neighbor with the surveillance system if the time was properly set. He said it was. He said it was off by two seconds.
__________________
Tony Pipitone
Investigative Reporter
WKMG-TV


Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #6

December 2/2011

Regarding some of these and other questions about the video surveillance:

LE retrieved the video from the neighbor of Friday, Nov. 18, he said.

LE said they had MP's Hummer on video, but did not say both coming and going. They eventually confirmed the Hummer at 3:18 p.m. is hers.

The neighbor said police were excited to see the Hummer coming and going, but after further investigation, police confirmed the Hummer seen leaving the area was a neighbor's -- not MP's.

As for the white van that pulled into camera range that afternoon, I cannot confirm that is DS's work van and a neighbor also has a white panel van that appears similar. __________________
Tony Pipitone
Investigative Reporter
WKMG-TV

 

[captdj]

I've been thinking on this for a while. I think DS2 is the one who drove the hummer out the other exit and away from the condo (after concealing MP in his work van . .I wonder if LE has used the dogs on that van yet). I think he drove it straight to DS1's 0place where the decals were removed and DS1 followed him to the drop off place and then drove him home. DS1 might even be the one who disposed of her (sorry Sparky :-().

I need to think on this some more but my gut is screaming that DS2 is the one who drove it out of the complex' other exit to avoid the neighbors surviellance camera.

Melissa

Thinking about leaving using the south entrance ..if Michelle was going home she would normally go out the way she came in...the North entrance.

 

[captdj]

I've seen this commented on several times by a few posters. I guess I'm missing something here. I don't see why the way he says this stands out for any reason. What about it bothers you? I'm just trying to understand what it is about this wording that sends red flags up for some people.

ETA: I do, though, find it weird that his first reaction is to hop on facebook and make that post to his page. For me, that would be the last thing I'd be thinking at that particular time.

DS saying MY kids need their mother... bothers me also

My kids not "OUR" children sounds like he has all the ownership/custody over them(Michelles been missing only hours)...and he feels like he is the only parent.

Doesnt he need their mother also? to help care for "their" children...

Just a cold and distancing statement if he cared about Michelle.

JMO

 

[nobodynoz]

Thinking about leaving using the south entrance ..if Michelle was going home she would normally go out the way she came in...the North entrance.

From the Google Satellite, looks like most routes in the complex loop around, so a driver could turn either direction out of a unit driveway to get to either exit of the complex.

 

[captdj]

I've seen this commented on several times by a few posters. I guess I'm missing something here. I don't see why the way he says this stands out for any reason. What about it bothers you? I'm just trying to understand what it is about this wording that sends red flags up for some people.

ETA: I do, though, find it weird that his first reaction is to hop on facebook and make that post to his page. For me, that would be the last thing I'd be thinking at that particular time.

---that's what it looks like to me..

Ok the top right photo...can you read the time on it?
Also the red car parked two doors away is gone at this point so wouldnt it be another time the Hummer is leaving?

The only one with the Hummer coming toward DS condo there is no red car and no black car next door?

But two photos of Hummer leaving? one with the red car and the oher one without it?

Now Im confused?

 

[ladonna]

Anyone know who belongs to the white van? In one photo it looks parked, and then in another its moving in the opposite direction.

 

[nobodynoz]

Ok the top right photo...can you read the time on it?
Also the red car parked two doors away is gone at this point so wouldnt it be another time the Hummer is leaving?

The only one with the Hummer coming toward DS condo there is no red car and no black car next door?

But two photos of Hummer leaving? one with the red car and the oher one without it?

Now Im confused?

I'm confused too. Maybe I'm dense, but could someone tell me what is the sequence of these four photos? They don't seem to be in order because of the change of light and shadows.

 

[Skully]

Just tossing stuff out. If Dale killed Michelle in the condo just after she arrived at 3:18, he may have left her body there, grabbed the kids and headed over to the Dale sr. house. Explained what happened and left the kids and took his dad back to the condo with him to help get rid of the body. Now one takes the hummer the other drives Dale's truck or van (you pick) and they get rid of the body and the hummer. Drive back in Dale's truck or van to Sr's home. How long could that take? LE didn't go over there ( condo) until late that night. So if that is what went down, she is probably a lot closer to the condo or Dale sr. home than we think. People tend to dump the body where they feel comfortable, like a place close by, a place they feel no one will look and it has to be away from house or witness. Most of the ponds have home around them. Too many eyes for one, and you have to make sure the body will not surface for two. So my guess is that it is in a wooded area, not far from the road. JMO

 

[Cerebellum]

Couple of questions for any of you in the know:

Didn't one or more of you mention at some point that DS Jr. and Sr. currently owns/works out of/has access to warehouses, garages, or properties elsewhere in Orlando/Central Florida? (Other than at the Rose Ave. address)

Do you know where any or all are located?

DS2 works for a cabinet company that has a warehouse off Titan Wy not far from Lake Ellinor. I believe DS1 owns a roofing company that he runs out of his home. Not sure if he still does though.

 

[Patty G]

I believe the neighbor said it had not changed the time after daylight savings rolled back.

Let's just say that the neighbor didn't change the clock back and it currently reads: 3:18 PM; if he had turned it back, then it would have read 2:18 PM.

FactFinder aka Tony Pippione (sp) verified that the clock is only off by 2 seconds.

 

[lauriej]

Ok the top right photo...can you read the time on it?
Also the red car parked two doors away is gone at this point so wouldnt it be another time the Hummer is leaving?

The only one with the Hummer coming toward DS condo there is no red car and no black car next door?

But two photos of Hummer leaving? one with the red car and the oher one without it?

Now Im confused?

--the top right time is 4:40 p.m. but that's the hummer that is said to NOT belong to michelle.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #7

Regarding some of these and other questions about the video surveillance:

LE retrieved the video from the neighbor of Friday, Nov. 18, he said.

LE said they had MP's Hummer on video, but did not say both coming and going. They eventually confirmed the Hummer at 3:18 p.m. is hers.

The neighbor said police were excited to see the Hummer coming and going, but after further investigation, police confirmed the Hummer seen leaving the area was a neighbor's -- not MP's.

As for the white van that pulled into camera range that afternoon, I cannot confirm that is DS's work van and a neighbor also has a white panel van that appears similar. __________________
Tony Pipitone
Investigative Reporter
WKMG-TV

 

[Skully]

DS2 works for a cabinet company that has a warehouse off Titan Wy not far from Lake Ellinor. I believe DS1 owns a roofing company that he runs out of his home. Not sure if he still does though.

My neighbor just had a new roof put on this past summer and I am trying to remember what all was involved in the way of equipment. You could run this out of your home, because most supplies would be ordered from a supply house, then they would be delivered by the supply house to the home getting the new roof. I do remember huge ladders and large tarps that were on the roof, also they rented a huge trash bin, that the old roof tiles and debris was thrown into. That also was delivered by BFI and taken away by them. I can't remember how the roof tiles were hoisted up onto the roof for the workers. I think a crane lift, but not sure now. Any one? I still think a storage unit would come into play, but LE would have checked that out by now. Also did Michelle have a storage unit? I ask because she has moved and sometimes going into a parents home or sister's home, you can't take everything with you, especially if you have twins and a pre teen. Some place else to check out.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/november/347644/

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...surrounding-michelle-parker-s-disappearance-2

Why is the current bf starting to irk me??
He keeps saying stuff about the song text from MP and his smiley face reply over and over....not much else about ANYTHING else. Like this is the ONLY real detail he's giving that he has to keep track of.
I know it's a matter of what gets put in the news or what questions they ask him...but, theoretically, he was "supposed" to be the LAST person to see her before she went to work, if I'm getting things right and just assuming she was going straight to work after their dinner They could have just as soon gotten together earlier than dinner time.

Going out on REAL thin ice here....but, how about if after the PC show is on TV,they laugh about how ridiculous it was...MP decides maybe she and DS SHOULD get back together....but didn't say anything to him about it, and maybe she wasn't sure in HER own mind about the new bf anymore.
I don't know...but the text she sent to DS, that he was talking about after PC, STILL leads me to question if she was just playing up her new relationship to maybe make him jealous and "push his buttons" (??). I keep thinking with his anger issues getting worse with drugs/drinking....it could BE a jealous/possessive type of thing. AGAIN, no excuse for violence.
Even for myself, I've swept things under the rug by blaming someone being violent because they were drunk, like MP said during the show about DS....he was violent usually when he was drunk. And, back and forth things go...like the judge said they were like poison, or whatever, for each other.
The current bf seems pretty taken with MP...being the "girl of his dreams" and all. Who's to say HE didn't snap and do something accidental to her if she mentioned about going back with DS?
I don't know...if he's supposed to "meet his new gf for dinner", wouldn't you be ringing her phone off the hook to see whats goin on??? Maybe go to the bar she worked at and see if she were there, ask around...maybe she was busy and had to work an early shift and totally forgot dinner and she was there??? Maybe go to her house and see what's up??
Maybe it's just me, and what I'd expect my bf to do....or what "I'd" do if we had a date and something seems off.

Anyway...HE IS NOT A SUSPECT....it's just been bugging me.

 

[carole]

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/november/347644/

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...surrounding-michelle-parker-s-disappearance-2

Why is the current bf starting to irk me??
He keeps saying stuff about the song text from MP and his smiley face reply over and over....not much else about ANYTHING else. Like this is the ONLY real detail he's giving that he has to keep track of.
I know it's a matter of what gets put in the news or what questions they ask him...but, theoretically, he was supposed to be the LAST person to see her before she went to work, if I'm getting things right and just assuming she was going straight to work after their dinner They could have just as soon gotten together earlier than dinner time.

Going out on REAL thin ice here....but, how about if after the PC show is on TV,they laugh about how ridiculous it was...MP decides maybe she and DS SHOULD get back together....but didn't say anything to him about it, and maybe she wasn't sure in HER own mind about the new bf anymore.
I don't know...but the text she sent to DS, that he was talking about after PC, STILL leads me to question if she was just playing up her new relationship to maybe make him jealous and "push his buttons" (??). I keep thinking with his anger issues getting worse with drugs/drinking....it could BE a jealous/possessive type of thing. AGAIN, no excuse for violence.
Even for myself, I've swept things under the rug by blaming someone being violent because they were drunk, like MP said during the show about DS....he was violent usually when he was drunk. And, back and forth things go...like the judge said they were like poison, or whatever, for each other.
The current bf seems pretty taken with MP...being the "girl of his dreams" and all. Who's to say HE didn't snap and do something accidental to her if she mentioned about going back with DS?
I don't know...if he's supposed to "meet his new gf for dinner", wouldn't you be ringing her phone off the hook to see whats goin on??? Maybe go to the bar she worked at and see if she were there, ask around...maybe she was busy and had to work an early shift and totally forgot dinner and she was there??? Maybe go to her house and see what's up??
Maybe it's just me, and what I'd expect my bf to do....or what "I'd" do if we had a date and something seems off.

Anyway...HE IS NOT A SUSPECT....it's just been bugging me.

BBM

I don't see where the current bf keeps saying this - just that the media keeps reporting it in the timeline.

The first article was last updated on November 23 and the second is the timeline dated December 1.

 

[samsmom]

I hope Michelle comes home before we make a forum for her, but it would be much easier if we had separate threads for all the great ideas you all have.
I am wondering if anyone knows how the show PC works. Maybe Dale told Michelle it wasn't going to air and then when it did, she had a fit and a fight broke out and something bad happened to her.

 

[MsFacetious]

First and foremost she is the mother of his children so that comment makes sense to me. It could also show that he is not thinking of her any more in a romantic way.

It also could be because if you were to post "my ex is missing" then people are going to say "OMG, is she your kid's Mom?"
By just posting that the kids Mom was missing, he eliminated that question which would have certainly been asked.

Or he just might not have thought about it and just posted what came to mind.
If he was really thinking "my kids need their Mom, omg, where is she..."
It is possible that "my kids Mom" might just be what was going through his mind. :twocents:

I refer to people in weird ways... I still refer to my "in laws" as "the kids family" because of a comment somebody made.
It doesn't matter that it's been 10 years and it won't matter if we get married. They will always be "the kids family." :twocents:

My sister's daughter is referred to as that, a child I have never met doesn't register as my "niece" in my head.

There is also "My Grandpa's wife", "My Uncle's wife", "My sister in law's current husband" or "Husband number ___" .

I have a lot of "distancing" ways of referring to people I guess. It is an indication of how close I am to them though.

My Aunt has two daughters... one is "my cousin" and the other is "my Aunt's daughter." :waitasec:
I adore my cousin and she's a lot like me... the other "aunt's daughter" is... well... a bit Casey Anthony-ish.