FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 7

[minikrew]

OK, it's a stretch especially since he would be bribing a "Marine Military Guard(s)".

I have a lot of respect for all Military personnel, so not running with a Marine Military guard up for a bribe to kill an American citizen.

Agree to disagree on this one! :blowkiss:

prison guards are just people some will take a bribe and some will not military or private, cell phones in a fl prison will net you 3 months pay. just saying

 

[notmissing]

Have the police also confirmed that the Hummer leaving at 17:17 is not Michelle's? IMO the Hummer leaving at 16:40 is not Michelle's but the one leaving at 17:17 very well could be hers (if DS indeed removed decals etc.).

 

[Cheewawa007]

Have the police also confirmed that the Hummer leaving at 17:17 is not Michelle's? IMO the Hummer leaving at 16:40 is not Michelle's but the one leaving at 17:17 very well could be hers (if DS indeed removed decals etc.).

I'm not sure - but I think the other hummer has different rims and is a slightly different color.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

BBM

I don't see where the current bf keeps saying this - just that the media keeps reporting it in the timeline.

The first article was last updated on November 23 and the second is the timeline dated December 1.

Yes, you're correct...sorry, my apologies, HE isn't saying it, per se....like I mentioned, the media DOES, by reporting it over and over. Yet, it STILL is THE single most statement he's made with any sort of detail, so to speak.

But, as I mentioned...I KNOW it's what the media chooses to report AND which questions they ask and answers they get...

I guess I'm just saying that EVERYTHING else is just vague, IMO....like "I tried to text later" and got no answer. They were going to meet up for dinner...etc. I'm sure if he went into greater details, the media WOULD report it. As I mentioned, too, is that "I'd" be going nuts!!! Like..."I tried to CALL her phone a hundred times".....but we get....I TEXTED (??LOL) later and got no reply. They supposedly had plans for dinner, as he had said....the "girl of his dreams" is seemingly blowing him off for dinner, and you don't maybe try to see if she was at work...or if anyone saw her??
But...just vague and his wording of things doesn't sit right with me anymore.

Anyway...I'm just repeating myself...sorry all....as I said...he's just starting to irk ME...LOL

BUT......
He was in contact with her Thursday after she dropped off her twin 3-year-olds at her ex-fiancé's home.

“Around 3:15, she texted me a song came on the radio and I was thinking about you, then I replied back with a smiley face and a heart,” said Mitchell, adding that when he texted her later, he got no response.

 

[lauriej]

Have the police also confirmed that the Hummer leaving at 17:17 is not Michelle's? IMO the Hummer leaving at 16:40 is not Michelle's but the one leaving at 17:17 very well could be hers (if DS indeed removed decals etc.).

--i'd like to know where "alwayswright" got that from, that shows the 17:17 timestamp.

qpi637.png picture by AlwaysWright01 - Photobucket

--pic.


..it doesn't show that in the video w/ tony pipitone.

IMG_0621.mp4 video by dixie6920 - Photobucket

--hummer video.

 

[SindyBill]

prison guards are just people some will take a bribe and some will not military or private, cell phones in a fl prison will net you 3 months pay. just saying

and at any rate, i wasn't saying that the guards would take a bribe to kill her..but would probably take a bribe to help provide the communication that was off record, such as a cell phone as you suggested!

 

[lauriej]

BUT......
He was in contact with her Thursday after she dropped off her twin 3-year-olds at her ex-fiancé's home.

“Around 3:15, she texted me a song came on the radio and I was thinking about you, then I replied back with a smiley face and a heart,” said Mitchell, adding that when he texted her later, he got no response.

--if she sent him the text at 'around 3:15' , that would be before she even pulled in at dale2's---since she's on the surveillance cam just getting there at 3:18.

--re: dinner

--they may have had 'tentative plans' as in "hey, want to grab a bite before your shift tomorrow?" kind of thing....as opposed to a set "dinner date".

--if that was the case and he sent her a text "hey, still up for dinner tonight?" w/out getting a response, he might not think that a big deal.

 

[MsFacetious]

I think he or the media *thought* she had dropped off the twins when he said that. I don't think they checked phone records.
She may have been planning to drop them off at 3pm and been late. He may have assumed she had dropped them off already.
Or, he (or the media) may have assumed from media reports that it was after she dropped them off.

I do not think he actually had contact with her after she dropped them off.
If he did and she had driven herself out of Dale's parking lot, I don't think the focus would be on Dale. :twocents:

Yes, you're correct...sorry, my apologies, HE isn't saying it, per se....like I mentioned, the media DOES, by reporting it over and over. Yet, it STILL is THE single most statement he's made with any sort of detail, so to speak.

But, as I mentioned...I KNOW it's what the media chooses to report AND which questions they ask and answers they get...

I guess I'm just saying that EVERYTHING else is just vague, IMO....like "I tried to text later" and got no answer. They were going to meet up for dinner...etc. I'm sure if he went into greater details, the media WOULD report it. As I mentioned, too, is that "I'd" be going nuts!!! Like..."I tried to CALL her phone a hundred times".....but we get....I TEXTED (??LOL) later and got no reply. They supposedly had plans for dinner, as he had said....the "girl of his dreams" is seemingly blowing him off for dinner, and you don't maybe try to see if she was at work...or if anyone saw her??
But...just vague and his wording of things doesn't sit right with me anymore.

Anyway...I'm just repeating myself...sorry all....as I said...he's just starting to irk ME...LOL

BUT......
He was in contact with her Thursday after she dropped off her twin 3-year-olds at her ex-fiancé's home.

“Around 3:15, she texted me a song came on the radio and I was thinking about you, then I replied back with a smiley face and a heart,” said Mitchell, adding that when he texted her later, he got no response.

 

[Mels3kidz]

The other day after the court hearing DS, Sr., was noted as getting into the passenger side of the vehicle and the female he was with drove the vehicle. It's possible DS, Sr. might not drive, perhaps no license due to something or another, or perhaps for eye sight issues, maybe seizures, etc., etc.

Quite possibly. The only thing that *I* feel sure of (IMOO) is that Jr drove the hummer out of the complex. I don't post too often but I read a lot.(especially on slow days at work ;-), and its odd for me to have such a strong reaction to an event.

Melissa

 

[Patty G]

Quite possibly. The only thing that *I* feel sure of (IMOO) is that Jr drove the hummer out of the complex. I don't post too often but I read a lot.(especially on slow days at work ;-), and its odd for me to have such a strong reaction to an event.

Melissa

Thank you so much for coming out to post to my comment. When you have time, please continue to share your thoughts. :blowkiss:

 

[SmoothOperator]

Im in the process of updating the timeline with just a couple new times/events for 11/17(Thanks cher for the suggestion of sun set and for sending me the exact time for 11/17).. I am asking for any other times/events/details of 11/17 that any of you all can think of that would be relevant or important to the timeline.. I have always found that the best, most informative, and accurate of timelines come from many brains working together to fill in those hours and minutes of time that's being formatted into the timeline.. So, I would appreciate any/all help, suggestions, or time/event you want put on the timeline..

Once updated I'll post and therefor of course it will bump up the most up-to-date version..

TIA to any who have suggestions or times/events to add to our timeline for 11/17

 

[amysmom]

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...surrounding-michelle-parker-s-disappearance-2

SBM

There's WHERE we heard bout MP & her b/f meeting that am.

Thursday, November 17

Morning: Michelle’s new boyfriend, Nathan Mitchell, told WKMG that he had coffee in the morning with Michelle.

But is it accurate? I'm not so sure since so much MORE in this article is not!<sigh>

 

[Talina]

SBM

There's WHERE we heard bout MP & her b/f meeting that am.

Thursday, November 17

Morning: Michelle’s new boyfriend, Nathan Mitchell, told WKMG that he had coffee in the morning with Michelle.

But is it accurate? I'm not so sure since so much MORE in this article is not!<sigh>

I agree with your comment about that article. I've decided I'm not relying on anything in that timeline unless I've seen it reported in other media. If it hasn't, I'm discounting it for now.

IMO

 

[notmissing]

This is what I feel certain about so far...
At 15:18 MPs Hummer is arriving at DS2's house.
At 16:40 a Hummer not belonging to MP is seen leaving (veh appears to be a dark grey color).
At 17:17 *IMO* MP's (black - altered)Hummer is shown leaving DS2's house.

I don't know what happened in those 2 hours but, IMO whatever happened is why MP is missing right now.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Update to 11/17 Timeline

Timeline of 11/17/2011

2:30pm Michelle is seen for the last time by her family(mom/sis) as she is leaving the family's salon en route to p/u twins from daycare and to drop them off at their dad's(Dale) condo
[MSM, family]

3:15pm Michelle's current bf of a few weeks, NM receives a text msg from Michelle that said she'd heard a song on the radio that made her think of him.
(per some MSM this text was sent "after" she'd dropped off the twins at Dale's.. To each their own on what they feel is accurate)..
NM immediately replies to her text with a smiley and a heart.
[MSM, NM]

3:15pm In sister, Lauren's public statement on 11/30 she stated this time as an ETA for Michelle arriving at the daycare to p/up the twins.
[sister, Lauren]

3:18pm ORIGINAL ARRIVAL TIME OF MICHELLE AT DALE's. Surveillance video shows Michelle's blk Hummer(sister, Lauren confirmed it was Michelle's Hummer)arriving at Dale's condo. The 3:18pm timestamp has been verified as correct(only "off" 2seconds) by the very man whose surveillance cam caught the Hummer footage.
**also note that 3:18pm marks the BEGINNING of the 72min window of op later given by Dale JR's ATTY, NeJame**
[MSM, video confirmation, sister, MN]

3:28pm This would mark the 10mins of Michelle staying and talking with Dale at his condo where she says she is then headed to go shopping.. The time Michelle would be leaving Dale's condo.
[sister]

3:30pm This is the time reported by multiple MSM as the time Michelle's 11yr old son had arrived home from school and at some point very soon thereafter called the family salon asking if his mom was there.
[MSM]

4:00pm THIS IS THE NEW ARRIVAL TIME OF MICHELLE AT DALE's CONDO per sister, Lauren on 11/30 PrimeTime News. She claims that the time on the video of 3:18pm is INCORRECT.. that the correct time of Michelle/twins arriving at Dale's was 4:00pm.. Lauren further claims that in Dale's initial convo with the family on 11/17 when they asked him when he'd last seen Michelle that he answered that she'd arrived at 4:00pm, stayed and talked for 10mins, and upon her leaving she told Dale she was headed "shopping".
**please note that I am making clear that this time and info is not told to the public by Dale Jr, himself, but rather it is Michelle's sister, Lauren publicly stating these are the events/times of 11/17 as the family was told by Dale Jr in their first contacting him on the night of 11/17**
[family, MSM]

Minutes preceding 4:26pm Michelle's brother, Dustin sends a 3 recipient text(mom, Lauren, Michelle) needing a ride and asking what part of town each are in.
[brother, MSM]

4:26pm the time immediately after Dustin sending the text he received only 1 reply from the 3 texts he'd sent. It was a reply from Michelle's cell phone that consisted of one, single word, "Waterford". This is the last known contact with Michelle's phone.
*note that according to MSM not only was the location of the phone not in Waterford when the 4:26pm text was sent, but it's reported that the phones records show the phone to not have been in Waterford at any time that day/night of 11/17**
[brother, MSM]

4:30pm Dale's atty, Mark NeJame states that Dale and the twins arrived at his father, Dale Sr's home at this time. Thus marking the END of the 72minute window of opportunity that NeJame claims Dale Jr had to kill and dispose of Michelle..
**note that he gets a :big eyeroll: from me on this claim**
[MN, MSM]

4:40pm This is the timestamp we see on the video surveillance footage that shows a similar black hummer leaving Dale's neighborhood.
**confirmed it was NOT Michelle's Hummer and confirmed it was a neighbor that lives near Dale that we saw appearing to leave the neighborhood at 4:40pm**
[video confirmation, MSM]

5:17pm Or as is seen on the video timestamp 17:17=5:17pm.. This is another screen capture of footage from Dale Jr's neighbor's surveillance cam.. It is still up for debate exactly what is seen in this particular screen cap, but for certain we know the white van is present.. Alongside the white van and slightly further there is a dark colored SUV headed in the opposite direction of where Michelle's Hummer is seen headed at 3:18pm(ie. Away from Jr's condo).. We have no confirmation on whose vehicle it is, or even what type SUV that it is for certain.. For now there are varying differences in opinion and whether or not it is even related or relevant to Michelle's disappearance.
[MSM, video confirmation]

5:31pm This is the official time that the sun set in Orlando, it's suburbs and surrounding areas.

6:50pm This time is the newest time stated by sister, Lauren as to when Michelle's 11yr old son called the family salon speaking with his Aunt Lauren. He asks if mom is there.. and relays that mom has not been home and he has not seen her.
[sister, MSM]

6:50pm After speaking with Michelle's 11yr old son the family immediately calls "The Barn"(the bar Michelle was to work a shift at 7:30pm that night of 11/17). The co-workers assure the fam that they'll alert them as soon as Michelle arrives for work..*
**Michelle is known to be a very prompt employee and always would arrive 10-15mins prior to her shift beginning**
[sister, MSM]

7:20pm When Michelle had not arrived for work by 7:20 co-workers grew extremely concerned and immediately alerted her family that Michelle was a NO SHOW.
[family, MSM]

7:20pm AT THIS TIME THE FAMILY IMMEDIATELY ALERTED AUTHORITIES THAT MICHELLE WAS MISSING
[family, MSM]

Throughout those first hours Michelle's family were desperately seeking to make contact with Dale Jr.(calls placed to his cell by mom, Dustin, Lauren all went unanswered). Yvonne at some point was able to make contact with Dale Jr's mom at Dale Sr's house.. She shared her growing concerns of Michelle being missing but for reasons unbeknownst to us Yvonne was unable to speak with Dale Jr at that time. His mom assured Yvonne that she would have Dale Jr contact her.
[family]

7:30pm Michelle's shift was to begin at 7:30pm at "The Barn". As we know she never arrived.
[family, MSM]

Specific time unknown Dale Jr returns the phonecall to Yvonne. The family asks him when was the last time that he saw Michelle. His response was that Michelle/twins arrived at his condo at 4:00pm, Michelle stayed and they talked for 10mins, upon Michelle leaving his condo she told him that she was headed to go "shopping". That was the last time that he had seen Michelle.
According to the family Dale had no reaction when told that Michelle was MISSING!
[family]

10:00pm-ish Dale is back home at the condo and LE are doing their initial search of his home and speaking with Dale to find out his account of the events as they had occurred that afternoon/evening.
[MSM, Dale's FB post]

10:30pm This is the time that a woman and her dog were walking in the apt complex on Walden Circle and saw Michelle's black Hummer parked there at the complex.
**note this was learned after LE located the Hummer and in speaking to the apt tenants in that area they learned that the woman had spotted the vehicle in that spot at 10:30pm**
[MSM]

11:08pm This was the time that Dale Jr took to his facebook to speak out about Michelle MISSING and that he and his home were already being looked into by LE(as is SOP). Below is his IMO troubling post(he refuses to call her by name, but rather de-personalizes her by speaking of her as "his kid's mother")

"Oh man, oh man, (expletive)! Michelle, the mother of my kids is missing, her mother called me said she never showed up to work after dropping the kids off with me. The police just came by and searched my whole house, this isn't good. My kids need their mother,"
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2731530.story

[MSM, Dale's FB post]

12:00am-ish LE officer during routine patrol of the apt complex spots and calls in for verification what was found to be Michelle's Missing Black Hummer. It's location verified to have been the exact same as when the female at 10:30pm had spotted the black Hummer.
**note that the large, professionally attached GLOW tanning decals had been removed from Michelle's windows**
(it can be seen on the surveillance footage of Michelle's Hummer arriving at Dale's condo that at that time[3:18pm] the GLOW decals were still on her vehicle)
[family, MSM, LE]

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as I said just a few new details/times/events added to this most recent update of the timeline..
Please, please anyone who has info, details, events/times of 11/17 that is not on the timeline please let me know so that I can add to it..

Again the very best, most informative, and accurate timelines are the one's where everyone works together as a collaborative effort.. Obviously more brains working together way outdoes one, little, measly brain working alone..


:heart: Smooth

 

[Patty G]

prison guards are just people some will take a bribe and some will not military or private, cell phones in a fl prison will net you 3 months pay. just saying

Do you have something that I can read about "cellphones in a Florida prison" and Florida Correctional Officers making 3 times their salary bringing in or in bribes regarding cellphones?

Dale was in a North Carolina Military Prison.

 

[JadedGrace]

Do you have something that I can read about "cellphones in a Florida prison" and Florida Correctional Officers making 3 times their salary bringing in or in bribes regarding cellphones?

Dale was in a North Carolina Military Prison.

My friend is a corrections officer in orlando, and coincidentally was talking about this the other day.

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/14671535/2011/05/18/nbc2-investigates-inmates-with-cell-phones

 

[Sparky]

If DS had his cell phone and Michelle's cell phone together, wouldn't they ping the same towers at the same time?

I heard something about this the other night, but can't remember what station I was watching.

 

[Wild@Heart]

I am thinking that when NM sent his response to MP's cell, DS jr saw it and jealousy and rage came over him. *JMO* Those poor children, God be with them and protect them!

 

[telemag]

I am thinking that when NM sent his response to MP's cell, DS jr saw it and jealousy and rage came over him. *JMO* Those poor children, God be with them and protect them!

I wonder if Michelle was not being honest with Dale about her new relationship. I mean she was using his Hummer and also using it to advertise her business too. Maybe you are right that he found out about the new guy when he had sent Michelle a text, but I would think that Michelle would have been gone by then. (4:30).