FL FL - Noemi Bolivar, 21, went for a walk, Hollywood, 11 Feb 2021

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I did research on the accuracy of cell phone pings
(Source: Pinged - Live Phone Tracking - Badge Apps™ )
(Idk if this accurate)

The latitude and longitude by themselves are not the location of the device. This is commonly the location of the cell tower. You have to map the accuracy or radius value!

The accuracy (or radius) value is a number that represents a distance in meters from the GPS coordinates that identifies an area the device is believed to be in.

The smaller the accuracy value, the more precise the reporting of the device’s location will be.
If you have a single ping, your search area will be inside the red radius:
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To reduce the search area, use multiple pings to triangulate the location of the device. If you have multiple pings in an area over a short period of time, the likely location of the device is where the radii overlap.


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this looks important:

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i did research on cell tower locations:

theres a website that shows a map of all cell towers everywhere in the world:

-t mobile 4g tower (eNB ID 60970 bands 2,12,66) is 6 blocks north of the north ping.
-t-mobile 4g LTE tower (eNB id 151509 Band 2) almost exactly where the south ping was.
-sprint 4g tower (eNB ID 338177) 1.5 blocks south of south ping.

what carrier did she use? depending on the carrier, you triangulate the towers and the pings. I still quite haven’t wrapped my head around how it works but I see there is some “triangulation” involved. The ping is not an exact location of the phone as I have been persistent about since page 1. It sucks the cops haven’t communicated this information to anyone.


We need to find that phone. It will be a major clue as to her location.
 
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Sorry for the triple posts. I take public transit. Buses can run early or late.

JMO Noemi missed bus. Decided to wait for next bus. Figured she would text with friend while waiting.

Couldn't someone else had her phone while those pings came in? Just my experience but you're a sitting duck at a bus stop. Any creep knows you're alone and that phone is your lifeline. All types stop and say stuff to ya as you wait on a bus, and I'm an old fat lady. A young, beautiful girl is surely to get hit on.

If Noemi ever got back on the returning bus they'd have cameras just as when she embarked on her journey. I'd check original video to see who else got off there or.even the next stop.

I wonder if the driver of the bus she took to the nature center, or any passengers, noticed anyone trying to chat her up during the ride. It would be good to know how full the bus was, and if there was interaction or if all passengers were minding their own business. Perhaps the driver could be interviewed, or passengers on that bus asked to come forward and recall anything they noticed? They could be identified via the camera footage, and approached confidentially as potential witnesses.

Public transit culture has changed quite a bit since I was in the habit of taking it regularly. When I think of the convos I had on buses and trolleys with strangers when I was commuting to college in the early 80s, it raises my hair. I think people generally are much more aware of the danger of making small talk today, but many girls are still socialized to "be nice" when someone tries to chat them up.
 
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I wonder if the driver of the bus she took to the nature center, or any passengers, noticed anyone trying to chat her up during the ride. It would be good to know how full the bus was, and if there was interaction or if all passengers were minding their own business. Perhaps the driver could be interviewed, or passengers on that bus asked to come forward and recall anything they noticed? They could be identified via the camera footage, and approached confidentially as potential witnesses.

I agree, I wonder if someone on the bus could've followed her off or potentially kidnapped her.
 
  • #184
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Circumstances of Disappearance
She left her house on 02/11/2021 to go for a walk. Noemi went to Anne Kolb Nature Center in the area of Hollywood by county bus. Information found shows she did get off the county bus at that location. at this time it is not believe that foul play is involved.
 
  • #185
I'd be interested weather "Larry" took the bus. Just a thought.

Wondering if the bus has a front, and back door? If so does the back door have a camera?

During Covid people aren't too chatty. Then again you if you're a predator all you have to do is look, and they fixate.
 
  • #186
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Circumstances of Disappearance
She left her house on 02/11/2021 to go for a walk. Noemi went to Anne Kolb Nature Center in the area of Hollywood by county bus. Information found shows she did get off the county bus at that location. at this time it is not believe that foul play is involved.
at this time it is not believe that foul play is involved.
What else could it be?!
Strange to believe that foul play is not expected.
The only other option is getting grabbed by an alligator inside the park or lost walking around somewhere?
 
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  • #187
expected.
The only other option is getting grabbed by an alligator inside the park or lost

There can be other options like maybe she slipped hit her head on the ground or she fell into the water, anything could have happened if she was hiking not on the walking trails ,you can walk in this park into the woods and get lost, it is surrounded y water, she could have drowned or maybe she got injured
 
  • #188
I'd be interested weather "Larry" took the bus. Just a thought.

Wondering if the bus has a front, and back door? If so does the back door have a camera?

During Covid people aren't too chatty. Then again you if you're a predator all you have to do is look, and they fixate.

OK, so assuming that the "county bus" refers to the Miami-Dade Transit (MDT) system, their bus fleet does have front/back doors. Fares are suspended and riders are required to wear facial coverings and board using the back door.

MDT route 12 runs on Sheridan St. and is very close to her last known location.

More info about riding MDT - Transit Service Updates related to coronavirus (COVID-19)

not sure if MDT buses have cameras, or if they would have installed cameras in the back during COVID. Bus cameras, when used, usually are stationed at the front, as riders usually board at the front to pay the fare. But also given how much public transport usage/revenue has crumbled, I'm not sure they would have the funding to install more cameras.
 
  • #189
OK, so assuming that the "county bus" refers to the Miami-Dade Transit (MDT) system, their bus fleet does have front/back doors. Fares are suspended and riders are required to wear facial coverings and board using the back door.

MDT route 12 runs on Sheridan St. and is very close to her last known location.

More info about riding MDT - Transit Service Updates related to coronavirus (COVID-19)

not sure if MDT buses have cameras, or if they would have installed cameras in the back during COVID. Bus cameras, when used, usually are stationed at the front, as riders usually board at the front to pay the fare. But also given how much public transport usage/revenue has crumbled, I'm not sure they would have the funding to install more cameras.
Hollywood is in Broward county

I wonder if they use the same system on the bus.

Good info none the less
 
  • #190
Hollywood is in Broward county

I wonder if they use the same system on the bus.

Good info none the less

Ah, I see. Thanks. I probably shouldn't try to do research on a phone. Google Maps was horribly confusing. There is a MDT Route 12, but it's totally unrelated to the BCT Route 12; the Route 12 I spotted on Sheridan is the BCT line.

Broward County Transit - Fares

BCT has the same measures as MDT; they suspended fare collection and required riders to board using the rear doors.

BCT Route 12 - web
BCT Route 12 - PDF

BCT also extended service to 30-minute intervals. Above is the new schedule for Route 12. Has any info about her bus trip been released? Noemi would have likely exited at/near Sheridan/US 1 stop, designated as Stop 5.

Edit: Okay, upthread there's an article that says she boarded the bus at 7000 Sheridan, which is nearest to Stop 3 on the PDF version. And she exited at 800 Sheridan, which is close to Anne Kolb. Any times given?
 
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I just noticed that across from the Nature Center entrance there’s walking paths that go beside channels of water. If Noemi missed the bus and the Nature Center gates were closing, the paths across from the Nature Center entrance might be someplace she might walk while waiting on the next bus.
On the uploaded photo you can see the entrance to the Nature Center and directly across the road is the walking path I’m referring to.
 
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To Note:
•Almost one month after Noemi Bolivar was last seen, Hollywood police are once again urging the public to be observant of the 21-year-old's whereabouts.
•The Hollywood Police Department has continued to be in contact with Bolivar’s family and is concerned about her.
•Detectives, as well as family and community members, have conducted multiple searches throughout Hollywood, including through Anne Kolb Nature Center, where she may have been last seen.
 
  • #195
No accusations against "Larry", but he thought enough to tell reporters he was in the center about 4:15 or 4:30. So, Larry could be one of the most helpful persons right now IMO. He knew she "wasn't crying or nothing". Maybe within this amount of time he recalls other things?

Still praying this dear family gets their girl back.
 
  • #196
I keep checking in here every day. Sooo frustrating that there's STILL no news!!

I'm too lazy to go back to see what's been posted but I just read this link and it tells what they did and are probably still doing to search. Even mentioned a paypal account for gas funds and such.
A Latter-day Saint congregation’s search for a missing girl

So sad that her 22nd birthday has come and gone.
 
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Bump...Any news/updates/anything???
 
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Bumping for Noemi!
 

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