FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #2

[Megnut]

Now judge is excusing the jury for lunch.

 

[arielilane]

Recess until 12:50 pm ET.

 

[arielilane]

@StephBuffamonte

Video of Jorge smashing Sarah's TV with a baseball bat is playing in the courtroom. Yesterday, Boone said Jorge previously told her "he was going to break my face with the bat and I would be unrecognizable to my son." - this is the same bat she hit Jorge with the night he died.


11:10 AM · Oct 23, 2024

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

They're showing a video of Jorge smashing the TV with a bat!

IMO it seems that IIUC a prior act of SB zipping her own son into a suitcase and publishing something about that online needs to be in evidence too? It seems she was taunting her own young son with that action? IANAL. MOO

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

IMO it seems that IIUC a prior act of SB zipping her own son into a suitcase and publishing something about that online needs to be in evidence too? It seems she was taunting her own young son with that action? IANAL. MOO

At the very least it's proof that she's got previous for encouraging someone to get inside a small suitcase and that doing so was considered to be dangerous by many people.

 

[Izzylizzy]

@StephBuffamonte

Video of Jorge smashing Sarah's TV with a baseball bat is playing in the courtroom. Yesterday, Boone said Jorge previously told her "he was going to break my face with the bat and I would be unrecognizable to my son." - this is the same bat she hit Jorge with the night he died.


11:10 AM · Oct 23, 2024

Did SB show the video to her young son so he could see what the guy she loves and has living with them is all about?

Yet she never left him or had him arrested for that.
AB was a co-partner in keeping the physical violence ongoing yet there are those who think she should get a pass for killing him.

Weakness for your lover is not a defense.
AB thrived in her role as JT's personal overseer.

 

[aafromaa]

Hmmm…just tuned in and saw the last part of the video of JT taking the bat to the tv. Now I’m not saying that wasn’t a bit extreme he didn’t really seem out of control angry while doing it. I expected him to be yelling and cussing and threatening and wailing that bat like a wild man. Instead it almost looked to me like one of those staged fake videos you see on YouTube or something - not saying it was staged - I don’t know - but my first thought was what if they go a new tv and just thought it would be funny to video the old one being destroyed.

Also just a side note - not every parent or step-parent that destroys an electronic device (tv, video games, computers, phones, tablets, etc) is doing it to be mean or abusive. Sometimes parents are just desperate. There were 6 kids in our family - in the 60s with one TV & 3 channels. You can imagine the fights we had over which of those 3 to watch. We had a small B&W tv for years and our parents finally saved up enough to get a color tv and that made our arguments worse. My step-dad warned us about it for a few days and then finally just picked it up and threw it out the door - it smashed as it tumbled down the stairs into the yard. It was a while before we got a color tv again but I don’t recall any of us arguing about what to watch again when he was home.

Of course I don’t know whether JT might have been following through on a warning to SB or her son for too much TV or video games or whatever and I don’t know if they were creating a fake YouTube video of him taking a bat to it. I didn’t even see the whole video. But what I did see was not what I pictured when they talked about him taking a bat to the tv.

 

[Trebor5591]

I can't believe that Owens was allowed to coach SB through her testimony all the way from where she was born to what age she was when her grandparents died and what the names of her dogs are. As if she's the one reading out an impact statement.

Jorge is the victim here and he has a family and three children who will never hear from him again, including a disabled boy. For the rest of their lives everyone who interacted with JT will have to live with it on their conscience that they knew something wasn't right and should have encouraged him to flee the relationship.

I've never heard of a trial where the court room is being used as a showcase for someone's lies and deceptions.

Isn't it the responsibility of opposing counsel to object to leading questioning? I believe it is, and the judge isn't necessarily going to interject himself into ongoing testimony without an objection.

That said, I feel the prosecution in this case is a "dud", to use Sarah Boone's words. JMO

 

[arielilane]

I have questioned the hide n seek from the beginning but don’t see how that becomes premeditation to murder. Could you elaborate? Also I’m still wondering when and how and why T got in that suitcase if it wasn’t hide n seek - any input on that?

It's jmo, moo about premeditation.

Dont want to guess about what she planned. Just think she was done? Took an opportunity?

I can't get in the mind of a drunk person ... an angry drunk person full of rage.

Alcohol and rage are not a good mix.

In this case, it was deadly.

That's all Ive got. moo

 

[Trebor5591]

Psychology is not a science but a pseudo-science many people believe, it is not a medical training and it is not a legally grounded practice IMO.

I agree 100%. But definitely its a minority opinion!

 

[Trebor5591]

<> I don't understand the vitriol towards Sarah. <>

It has to do with those videos of Jorge begging to be released from the suitcase, struggling to breathe, while Sarah mocks him and curses at him. IMO

 

[cujenn81]

I feel like the prosecution is allowing more than they might otherwise because they know SB’s defense isn’t rational. IMO they are using less overt (but still effective) methods to make their case. For example, they let her blather on and on with few objections because her story is so convoluted and filled with inconsistencies that her dishonesty is obvious. I have to assume they will point out these inconsistencies during their closing arguments. (The only exception was SB’s testimony about JT’s alleged threats re: her dogs. The merest hint of animal cruelty is incredibly prejudicial to the person accused of it, IMO. The prosecution did object to these statements, but the judge overruled the objection.)

All of this is to say… sometimes a jury will vote based on how well they like an attorney. (Sad, but true.) And if the prosecution drags out testimony by making objections every five seconds, they risk annoying the jury and/or making them more sympathetic to SB.

Although, I will admit that I wanted to see some rapid fire questions thrown at her that would make her flustered and slip up (a la My Cousin Vinny or Legally Blonde… lol), but maybe that only happens in the movies.

 

[nodamselindistress]

I feel like the prosecution is allowing more than they might otherwise because they know SB’s defense isn’t rational. IMO they are using less overt (but still effective) methods to make their case. For example, they let her blather on and on with few objections because her story is so convoluted and filled with inconsistencies that her dishonesty is obvious. I have to assume they will point out these inconsistencies during their closing arguments. (The only exception was SB’s testimony about JT’s alleged threats re: her dogs. The merest hint of animal cruelty is incredibly prejudicial to the person accused of it, IMO. The prosecution did object to these statements, but the judge overruled the objection.)

(Snipped)

There was another recording where SB was going on and on about how much JT loved her dogs. Once again, inconsistencies.

 

[SluethinAway]

I find her scary and a threat to society. Even now, she shows no remorse for taking the life of another person and continues to lie over and over. It's like she takes no responsibility for what her actions caused. Add to that, for all I know she was getting even with JT for past actions and did this intentionally. JMOO

Her need for control showed in every aspect on the stand to me. Her constant need to tell a story before simply answering yes or no shows to me that she is still trying to control the narrative.
She seemed agitated when there were sidebars and she had to be stopped mid-story.
She spoke of Jorge as if he was a toddler that needed constant supervision. She treated Jorge like he was a toddler. Lets paint, lets do this, lets keep you busy..Yatta Yatta
She told him when he needed to eat, when she thought he needed to go to bed, etc.
She, to me, has a narcissistic personality.
I wish they could bring up her charges and altercations with Jorge because I feel she was most likely the instigator in these situations.
I think they got drunk and fought all the time. I also think she got drunk and probably tripped over her own feet a lot for lack of better words.
She was scared because his fingers came out, so she beat him with a bat and then sat on the couch and decided to video him.. You wouldn't do that if you were truly scared. You would call 911 like you reportedly had done before.
(I speak from DV experience, she is not like us)
She was going to "teach him a lesson" about getting drunk and fighting with her.

 

[Seattle1]

Video From Sarah Boone's Phone Shows Violent Jorge Torres

The jury saw video extracted from Sarah Boone's phone that showed Jorge Torres beating a television with a baseball bat.

www.courttv.com

So was JT striking the TV screen in silence as SB records him on her phone supposed to demonstrate how he was going to climb out of the suitcase and harm her?

I dunno. I have to ask if SB dared him to hit and/or bust up the screen. Was this even a working television? It just seems "off" to me more than an angry or violent outburst. In other words, SB has lost credibility with me. MOO

 

[Megnut]

Her need for control showed in every aspect on the stand to me. Her constant need to tell a story before simply answering yes or no shows to me that she is still trying to control the narrative.
She seemed agitated when there were sidebars and she had to be stopped mid-story.
She spoke of Jorge as if he was a toddler that needed constant supervision. She treated Jorge like he was a toddler. Lets paint, lets do this, lets keep you busy..Yatta Yatta
She told him when he needed to eat, when she thought he needed to go to bed, etc.
She, to me, has a narcissistic personality.
I wish they could bring up her charges and altercations with Jorge because I feel she was most likely the instigator in these situations.
I think they got drunk and fought all the time. I also think she got drunk and probably tripped over her own feet a lot for lack of better words.
She was scared because his fingers came out, so she beat him with a bat and then sat on the couch and decided to video him.. You wouldn't do that if you were truly scared. You would call 911 like you reportedly had done before.
(I speak from DV experience, she is not like us)
She was going to "teach him a lesson" about getting drunk and fighting with her.

Exactly, so that when JT gets out of the suitcase (like she's says she thought he would) her ex-husband or his brother or the police are right there to arrest him for, I guess, a pattern of mutual violence. Point, she didn't call on her ex husband to protect her. Or LE. She went to bed.

It is SB's unique cluster of traits and disorders IMO that she COULD NOT admit to being black out drunk. She insisted she was some kind of mentis ... superior. She didn't "want" to drink, she did it for JT, she didn't get drunk-drunk -- all grabs at superiority IMO.

She beat down her best defense. That, in the moment, she was too intoxicated to exercise good judgment. She promises she was not.

It's what I've been saying. Complex dance of hero-victim in that one. Has to win. Every question.

I wish the State would ask her who won the game the night. Just to hear her try to answer it. It might sound like this: well, obviously JT. Because he's dead. But I lost too. (I lost more.) Because I lost him and I really thoroughly loved him because you need to know, I did everything for him...

JMO

 

[acehard]

IMO it seems that IIUC a prior act of SB zipping her own son into a suitcase and publishing something about that online needs to be in evidence too? It seems she was taunting her own young son with that action? IANAL. MOO

Yeah the state should have presented that. I think they didn't expect the BSD to be approved or thought her recordings are enough. I wonder what the jury is thinking about all this. MOO

 

[acehard]

Back in session

 

[nodamselindistress]

So I am guessing this next Dr is the one who interviewed SB on several occasions?

 

[arielilane]

@StephBuffamonte

Suitcase m*rder trial update... I spoke with #SarahBoone's attorney during the lunch break. The defense will rest its case today and expect to make closing arguments tomorrow afternoon.


1:04 PM · Oct 23, 2024