GUILTY FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #3

[texaslb218]

Post conviction, is anybody really interested in anything Owens or Dr Harper have to say on the subject of SB? I think they've wasted enough of tax payer's money and everyone's willingness. Does Harper have any credibility that anyone cares of her opinions?

It would be one thing to say we have proof this woman was so badly harmed in her childhood that she is one of those rare people who grew up into a sociopath, so please show mercy (ie no death penalty, no whole life sentence) -but- to sit and say it was being assaulted by JT that made her into a violent drunken abuser when she was doing all that stuff before she ever met him would be an outrage IMO.

JMO I would like to see a whole life sentence as I think SB is one of those rare people who has some of her brain wiring missing and zero empathy combined with violence and dishonesty. What to do with someone like that? Keep us all safe from them.

Yes, "whole life" is my choice also.

 

[Izzylizzy]

He might not have had a choice. There was a legal custody arrangement.

One always has a choice to motion the courts for a change with their legal custody arrangements.

#1 reason would be your child is in an unsafe environment with the other the parent/guardian.
For years BB had more than enough legal evidence to back that accusation against SB.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

One always has a choice to motion the courts for a change with their legal custody arrangements.

#1 reason would be your child is in an unsafe environment with the other the parent/guardian.
For years BB had more than enough legal evidence to back that accusation against SB.

IMO BB was not keeping his child safe and he was enabling. I get that he's learned the hard way, he's suffered greatly and will have already made changes, plus he was SB's former victim of abuse so he could have been psychologically altered, beaten down, brainwashed by her.

I hope he and his son can revoke SB's parental rights and disconnect if that's what they want.
There was a family court order came up somewhere that showed SB was not allowed to drink whilst having her son. However, she should have been on supervised only visits at best.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I wonder if SB has been put back on the dorm? Or put into supervised isolation?

I imagine she'd told her 'friends' in the dorm that she'd be leaving for the outside world.
I know it's a jail but now we know about SB's pattern of abuse, I really hope vulnerable or young or fragile women are being kept safe from her. She's got a long history of prison write ups for infractions and disputes that include trying to manipulate outcomes that affect other women.

 

[Cool Cats]

Why did SB admit she hit Jorg'e hand with a bat? Why admit she forced his hand to reteat?

I do not understand how tye bat was able tonplay a part....

CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN ANYTHING ABOUT THE BAT?

One minute there is no evidence next I know there iscthis bat in evidence with SB admitting to using it. I do not undertand this. Why on earth wouldthe defense allow this bat evidence?

2 Cents

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Why did SB admit she hit Jorg'e hand with a bat? Why admit she forced his hand to reteat?

I do not understand how tye bat was able tonplay a part....

CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN ANYTHING ABOUT THE BAT?

One minute there is no evidence next I know there iscthis bat in evidence with SB admitting to using it. I do not undertand this. Why on earth wouldthe defense allow this bat evidence?

2 Cents

SB and her lawyers thought that it would be best to illustrate the Battered Spouse Syndrome. SB had changed her plea from 'not intentional' went to bed went to sleep, no idea JT could die -to- a 'defining moment' that triggered PTSD and caused her to feel the need to kill JT to save her own life. That defining moment was JT's fingers coming out of the suitcase to which she became so panicked she bashed his fingers with the baseball bat.

There was already substantial evidence SB had battered and wounded JT with the baseball bat. So in many aspects SB was 'retro-fitting' and modifying her story to fit the evidence as it was being presented by the State. Nobody will ever know what she really did.

 

[fridaybaker]

Videos of SB being mentally and psychologically abusive to JT and exerting coercive control begin at 8:22:24:

Thank you so much!

 

[Luna20]

Gotta say, that second article details some pretty disturbing allegations.

Owens dropped a few what I would consider sexist and condescending comments in his closing. Also ill placed and irrelevant.

Just personally, I don't like Owens on a gut level. Not at all. Boundary busting, smarmy and underhand. Though didn't get a similar vibe from Henderson, if there is any truth to those old allegations, that was reprehensible, not to mention illegal conduct against a minor. jmo

You described Owens well. He was thorough for sure but to me he resorted to playing dirty especially at the end.

There is always a fine line but saying Jorge was breathing because he was talking was so crude. Choose a different way to get your point across versus making it sound like it was everyday conversation.

Without the bss I’m curious about how Owens would have handled it.
And I wonder now if he took the case just to have his work highlighted.

 

[Cool Cats]

I wonder if SB has been put back on the dorm? Or put into supervised isolation?

I imagine she'd told her 'friends' in the dorm that she'd be leaving for the outside world.
I know it's a jail but now we know about SB's pattern of abuse, I really hope vulnerable or young or fragile women are being kept safe from her. She's got a long history of prison write ups for infractions and disputes that include trying to manipulate outcomes that affect other women.

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She's got a long history of prison write ups for infractions and disputes that include trying to manipulate outcomes that affect other women.

From her 4 1/2 years in jail?

Where does it show this?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

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She's got a long history of prison write ups for infractions and disputes that include trying to manipulate outcomes that affect other women.

From her 4 1/2 years in jail?

Where does it show this?

Apparently jail records of day to day incidents sit in the public realm. So some youtubers have either located them somewhere or applied to be provided them. I can't post on here as they're not 'verified' channels but they're out there covering the whole time since SB's first day in jail. (sent you a DM)

 

[Hazelnutty]

Apparently jail records of day to day incidents sit in the public realm. So some youtubers have either located them somewhere or applied to be provided them. I can't post on here as they're not 'verified' channels but they're out there covering the whole time since SB's first day in jail. (sent you a DM)

Evidently I'm not using the correct search criteria. I've been wanting to read her reports & records while incarcerated.

 

[Izzylizzy]

SB and her lawyers thought that it would be best to illustrate the Battered Spouse Syndrome. SB had changed her plea from 'not intentional' went to bed went to sleep, no idea JT could die -to- a 'defining moment' that triggered PTSD and caused her to feel the need to kill JT to save her own life. That defining moment was JT's fingers coming out of the suitcase to which she became so panicked she bashed his fingers with the baseball bat.

There was already substantial evidence SB had battered and wounded JT with the baseball bat. So in many aspects SB was 'retro-fitting' and modifying her story to fit the evidence as it was being presented by the State. Nobody will ever know what she really did.

BBM:
Yep, "retro-fitting" lol

Somehow I missed this one.

SB's interview with Detective Chelsea Koepsell in police car.
After she spoke to the female officer outside her residence and before she went to the police station.

Audio

 

[Luna20]

BBM:
Yep, "retro-fitting" lol

Somehow I missed this one.

SB's interview with Detective Chelsea Koepsell in police car.
After she spoke to the female officer outside her residence and before she went to the police station.

Audio

I’m glad I listened to this again. It sounds nothing like the courtroom testimony.

It was bizarre that Owens concocted the story about her being afraid while he was in the suitcase. “The suitcase was a way for her to be safe”

That’s a wild jump from “we had a great day. There were no problems”. Did Owens ever acknowledge why she went from having a great day to being terrified?

 

[Izzylizzy]

I’m glad I listened to this again. It sounds nothing like the courtroom testimony.

It was bizarre that Owens concocted the story about her being afraid while he was in the suitcase. “The suitcase was a way for her to be safe”

That’s a wild jump from “we had a great day. There were no problems”. Did Owens ever acknowledge why she went from having a great day to being terrified?

He admitted that she originally lied,one excuse was she was afraid to call 911 fearing she would be arrested or tell LE the truth about the night before and be arrested.
I'm not sure if that was when JT was in the suitcase and she supposedly was scared for her life or when she found JT dead or both events?
Owens jumped all over the place during the trial.
Somewhere in there SB had to fear for her life to wiggle in the self-defense besides suffering from her "make believe" BSS so what else could it have been but JT's finger then his hand that triggered her to fear for her life? s/

 

[Izzylizzy]

IMO BB was not keeping his child safe and he was enabling. I get that he's learned the hard way, he's suffered greatly and will have already made changes, plus he was SB's former victim of abuse so he could have been psychologically altered, beaten down, brainwashed by her.

I hope he and his son can revoke SB's parental rights and disconnect if that's what they want.
There was a family court order came up somewhere that showed SB was not allowed to drink whilst having her son. However, she should have been on supervised only visits at best.

BBM:
We know BB had to call SB every time she was scheduled to pick him up from school to make sure she would be there.
How did BB know if she had been drinking or not?
We also know that she probably didn't have to take a breathalyzer at the school before they'd release him to her, if a school would even do something like that.
She could have been drinking and when she picked him up stayed in the car or stood somewhere where he could see her but not be close enough to any adult who would smell alcohol on her breath.
A few years ago at the elementary school my 2 little g'daughters attended a mom had been drinking and the school called LE and she was taken away.
I love to know what involvement the school had with SB over the years.
I read that when SB was first jailed BB and their son would visit her but that eventually stopped and I don't know when.
In SB's letter to the judge she complains about her son being mean to her when she calls them.
Why the hell is BB taking her calls not too long ago?
I wish both BB and especially his son only the best but it can be tough having a teen under the best of circumstances and what this child was exposed to for years had to have been pure emotional hell for him and he could very well be a candidate for PTSD.
BB obviously lacked all parental tools for even understanding what a healthy and stable childhood looks like no less try and achieve it .
My BB rant is over..until the next time.

 

[SoWhat]

Post conviction, is anybody really interested in anything Owens or Dr Harper have to say on the subject of SB? I think they've wasted enough of tax payer's money and everyone's willingness. Does Harper have any credibility that anyone cares of her opinions?

It would be one thing to say we have proof this woman was so badly harmed in her childhood that she is one of those rare people who grew up into a sociopath, so please show mercy (ie no death penalty, no whole life sentence) -but- to sit and say it was being assaulted by JT that made her into a violent drunken abuser when she was doing all that stuff before she ever met him would be an outrage IMO.

JMO I would like to see a whole life sentence as I think SB is one of those rare people who has some of her brain wiring missing and zero empathy combined with violence and dishonesty. What to do with someone like that? Keep us all safe from them.

With respect to tax payer money - I don’t think it’s a waste when it comes to fulfilling the right of due process. Keep in mind as well that had Sarah Boone not pushed for trial she could’ve been let go in 5-10 years on manslaughter charge. Imagine what Jorge’s loved ones would’ve gone through had she gotten a slap on the wrist.

At the end of the day the taxes we pay are the cost of living in a civilized society. Had she gotten a plea deal and been released in the near future who knows what harm she’d do to other people. She is still not admitting she’s an alcoholic, she blamed her drinking on Jorge. She’s likely to drink again if freed. She killed someone while drunk. She can’t control her drinking and can’t control her rather extreme behaviors when drunk. At minimum she’s a risk for drunk driving.

If we want to do a little ledger balancing here consider the cost of the trial an upfront investment in keeping society safe from her. She was also unlikely to put her life to good use given the alcoholism so her contributions to the community probably would have been a net negative, a drain on professional resources (wasting law enforcement’s time and resources for her drunk antics, waste on the criminal justice system as she would probably continue to lie about being abused to get someone else arrested for things they didn’t do, EMTs for her self injury or long term chronic health problems from guzzling poison all the time, relying on public entitlement programs for food and healthcare since her alcoholism would have prevented her getting and keeping a job, etc).

 

[ShadyLady]

BBM:
We know BB had to call SB every time she was scheduled to pick him up from school to make sure she would be there.
How did BB know if she had been drinking or not?
We also know that she probably didn't have to take a breathalyzer at the school before they'd release him to her, if a school would even do something like that.
She could have been drinking and when she picked him up stayed in the car or stood somewhere where he could see her but not be close enough to any adult who would smell alcohol on her breath.
A few years ago at the elementary school my 2 little g'daughters attended a mom had been drinking and the school called LE and she was taken away.
I love to know what involvement the school had with SB over the years.
I read that when SB was first jailed BB and their son would visit her but that eventually stopped and I don't know when.
In SB's letter to the judge she complains about her son being mean to her when she calls them.
Why the hell is BB taking her calls not too long ago?
I wish both BB and especially his son only the best but it can be tough having a teen under the best of circumstances and what this child was exposed to for years had to have been pure emotional hell for him and he could very well be a candidate for PTSD.
BB obviously lacked all parental tools for even understanding what a healthy and stable childhood looks like no less try and achieve it .
My BB rant is over..until the next time.

I have no respect for BB. Weak father, enabled SB. He knew what she was like yet continued to give her money and allowed his young son to be exposed to that horrible situation. He must had liked being bossed around. Poor excuse of a father imo.

 

[RickshawFan]

Maybe not so much. Depends. She's a smart and a good manipulator and so she will probably adjust to the new reality of prison life. She really has no choice. She will learn how not to antagonize the prison guards and and she likely will form some alliances with other prisoners that will make her time easier. I doubt she will try to end her life, but I might be wrong. JMO

So far, she doesn’t seem to have learned not to antagonize anybody. And the notes from the jail suggest she antagonizes CO’s all the time. And so far, she’s had almost 5 years to figure this out.

 

[RickshawFan]

The judge will decide sentencing next month for the convicted murderer Sarah Boone.

In my opinion, the judge will give SB life in prison. SB never ever, not once at any time during trial showed any remorse for the crime she committed. She actually tried to justify her actions for her crime through her attorney. She is a danger to society and should never be free to enjoy freedom again.
She did not allow Jorge Torres any freedom.

Not only that, the behavior is who she is, not a temporary aberration. I suppose you don’t get jail for being tedious, but….her tediousness is abusive. The judge has also caught her in many lies, and has been a victim himself.

The sentencing report will be interesting. There’ll be very little in the positives column IMO.

 

[RickshawFan]

I’m imagining Judge Kraynick sleeping in this morning, a lazy breakfast, and then having all the time in the world to hang out with friends and family. It’s the first time in 5 years he hasn’t had to twist his mind around Sarah Boone.

I’ll bet he already knows the sentence. The thing about the 5 years of Sarah’s duplicity and manipulations, there’s nothing relevant to her case that he doesn’t know already. It’s all on the books. There’s even a history of material in chambers that we don’t know anything about. I would think this material negatively reflects on Sarah as well, since a major purpose of chambers is to prevent prejudicing the case.