GUILTY FL - Savannah Gold, 21, Jacksonville, 2 Aug 2017

[jccoa1999]

:grouphug: You are so close to it.

Also,JCOAA.. found the "new" post from above... it is from a previous tweet, which indeed does "NEW" from August 4th, 5 days ago, and says a "he". "thinking" :tyou: for finding that tweet!

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More at this video from 4 days ago, which discusses two gal friends, but not a "he". And discusses her best friend was talking about plans...
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/mom-of-missing-21-year-old-savannah-gold-i-just-want-to-know-where-she-is/581931269

Found an article..last sentence refers to the "he"! It's still not the original article I read days ago but it says he! Weird that I can't find that article!

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[jccoa1999]

Thanks! That has quotes from gals VG and RQ... two women who were BFF/gal friend from work. That's why I perhaps thought that the text re flat tire was to a woman, and not a man.

It's hard to keep up with it all!

The original article I read said they spoke to two co-workers, one that had not heard from her That day and the other was the "he" stating he was texting with her around 4pm when he was under the impression she was changing her tire! Weird I can't find original article though

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[Bently]

http://jacksonville.com/news/public-safety/2017-08-09/family-plans-vigil-saturday-bonefish-grill-employee-found-slain?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TheFloridaTimesUnion-SND Posted August 9, 2017 03:48 pm | Updated 03:54 pm
By Joe Daraskevich

Family plans vigil Saturday

The public is encouraged to attend the vigil for Savannah Page Gold from 2 p.m. to dusk at Losco Regional Park, 10931 S. Hood Road, said Gold’s uncle, Frank Pastine.

“Savannah loved that park and used to ride her bike there all the time,” Pastine said.

He said they wanted to be available for most of the afternoon to avoid crowds getting too large at any one time and so people can come by when they are free.

:grouphug:


He said there will be pictures of Gold, and at dusk they plan to do something special to celebrate Gold’s life.

Family and friends are having a private celebration of life Sunday, Pastine said.

 

[Bently]

From police documents and statements, News4Jax, and other msm assembled a timeline of events.

Wednesday

5:15 p.m. - Savannah Gold left her home.
~5:20? "G" had talked to Gold about 10 minutes before the encounter Jacksonville police say that took her life Wednesday night. http://jacksonville.com/news/public-safety/metro/2017-08-06/bonefish-grill-co-worker-arrested-death-savannah-gold
5:31 p.m. - She arrives at Bonefish for work, walks over and gets into Rodarte’s car.
5:45 p.m. - “The car was shaking, and the door was opening and closing,” Gallaher said.Rodarte is seen walking to Gold’s car, opening its driver’s side door and what appears to be taking an object from inside it and putting it in his car.“He then returns to her car and appears to puncture the front left tire of her vehicle,” Gallaher said. http://jacksonville.com/news/public-safety/metro/2017-08-06/bonefish-grill-co-worker-arrested-death-savannah-gold
6:04 p.m. – Rodarte drives out of the parking lot, and Gold isn’t seen.
6:11 p.m. - Brother receives text http://jacksonville.com/news/public-safety/metro/2017-08-06/bonefish-grill-co-worker-arrested-death-savannah-gold Heyi quit im leavingwith my boyfriend i cant do this (expletive) anymore im fine justwant to get away http://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending-now/parents-of-missing-21-year-old-say-strange-circumstances-surround-her-disappearance/581640213
6:30 p.m. Gold's father, Daniel Gold, said around 6:30 p.m. as he was leaving for work, he got a strange text from his daughter saying she had met someone and was taking off. ""Hey i just [w]anted to tell you and mom i met a really great guy and we[']re running away together i love him and we[']re leaving to[n]ight i[']ll call you later when we get t[o] where we are g[oi]ng,” the text said, according to the missing person’s report http://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending-now/parents-of-missing-21-year-old-say-strange-circumstances-surround-her-disappearance/581640213
7:12 p.m. - Officer dispatched to investigate missing person after Gold's mother calls police.

Sunday

12:11 a.m. - JSO reports undetermined death on Club Duclay Drive
1:15 a.m. - Gallaher announces body believed to be Gold's found; Rodarte arrested

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/police-silent-on-days-between-golds-disappearance-body-found

 

[SleuthyLou]

It's all so awful.

My intention early when I say I don't know if a video is "needed" was phrased wrong - I could have asked if anyone would find it useful to have a better picture of the area versus Google Earth/Street View. I will be able to go by tomorrow and will post afterward. If there's anything specific anyone wants to see, just let me know.

 

[pamelado2]

This article explains why their relationship would have been kept a secret from Bonefish employees.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/l...ld-manager-violated-bonefish-policy/586825937

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[pamelado2]

Also, I don't know why this suddenly dawned on me - whatever he took from her car has to be fairly big, right? He actually walked to her car, got it, walked back to his car and put it in, then walked back to her car and slashes the tire.

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[LadyL]

pretty sure all he took from the car was her phone

Also, I don't know why this suddenly dawned on me - whatever he took from her car has to be fairly big, right? He actually walked to her car, got it, walked back to his car and put it in, then walked back to her car and slashes the tire.

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[pamelado2]

pretty sure all he took from the car was her phone

Why do you say that?

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[Bently]

It's all so awful.

My intention early when I say I don't know if a video is "needed" was phrased wrong - I could have asked if anyone would find it useful to have a better picture of the area versus Google Earth/Street View. I will be able to go by tomorrow and will post afterward. If there's anything specific anyone wants to see, just let me know.

I finally found two things we were looking for as to a source! Yipee!

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/parents-of-missing-jacksonville-woman-say-strange-circumstances-surround-her-disappearance/581038609

This link the reporter in the video says she is standing near the spot where the car was, and a photo of the car earlier when it was still there to give you an idea SleuthyLou of where it's at in the parking lot.

This also is the source for what we were saying upthread about HE received he texted back and forth with her before work, and she said she only had to go an hour or two, and he was under the impression she was changing a flat tire. No times are mentioned on the video, and it could indeed have been earlier in the day when she actually was getting a new tire :dunno:


Actual picture of car

FlatTire

Reporter states she is standing in spot where car was previously


and also a screen cap of the text sent at 6:09 pm (NOTE: Other reports said different times, and that the brother and father's texts were 20 minutes apart, and dad received his text when he was leaving for work at 6:30. This text is supposedly the one sent to the father, but clearly shows that it was received at 6:09 pm, just 5 minutes after he was seen driving out at 6:04. Perhaps the timeline upthread is wrong as to text times due to assumptions by the media? :dunno: )

 

[cujenn81]

This creep WAITED on her. I'll bet that what he went back to the car for was her cell...possibly to delete messages that he had sent to her cell to meet? I would venture a guess that the reason her CC and ID were laying in the floorboard was he rifled through her purse to find the phone and just threw whatever he found into the floor not even noticing what it was.

How could he not know he was being recorded? Maybe he was hoping that the videos would write over themselves after a day or so and would be in the clear...he had to at least wonder if he was being recorded with CCTV everywhere in this day and age...that's why I can't figure out why he left her car in the parking lot. He goes back and punctures the tire after he killed or incapacitated her. He uses her phone to leave these ridiculously phony texts that a 5 yr old would know were fake. Why didn't he just take her car somewhere else...he got rid of her body within 3 miles so he had plenty of time to come back and get the car...that would've at least got the investigation off the restaurant parking lot because if her car wasn't there then who's to say she even showed up for work. That might give CCTV time to write over itself. I'll bet that to LE this guy almost had a big arrow pointing to him saying 'guilty'.

As for the tire puncturing...was the pick just random...did he accidentally pick the brand new one OR did he pick it because he punctured it the night before? Was the argument about the tire? Maybe they had argued the night before and he had punctured it in a rage. I find it odd that the tire he punctured was coincidentally the one she had just replaced.

I'm also wondering about motive. From the way her family has talked she had a crush on him and he didn't reciprocate...then suddenly he did so they have this on/off relationship. She was beautiful and him not so much. It looks like this guy would've jumped on the chance to date a gorgeous girl like her that was interested in him...but he didn't...why? What about her threatened him so much that he waited on her and then killed her...there's a whole list of possibilities a psychopath may use to justify killing someone I won't openly speculate here...

It may be impulse control...killing her in a moment of madness that in his mind justified what he was doing. BUT the fact that he waited on her leads me to believe there might have been some premeditation...if he wanted to talk to her why didn't they talk over text...they had all night to talk...and a fellow with little to no impulse control doesn't strike me as the kind to sit and wait just to talk...

This is all my own musings, speculations, and opinions...

That was one of my biggest questions... why would he think he could evade LE when there were surveillance cameras around. He probably never thought she'd be reported missing that quickly and hoped to erase the footage before the cops came looking for it.

I also wondered why he'd choose to leave her purse/IDs behind, if he wanted people to believe she'd run off with some guy. Maybe he dropped them while rushing to get out of there and didn't think they were worth going back for. BUT THEN, he walked back to the car to slash the tire (& I don't understand what his purpose was for doing that either). According to the timeline, he didn't leave the parking lot until a whopping 15 minutes after the car had stopped shaking. That seems pretty brazen to me. To hang around in broad daylight with a dead body in your passenger seat for that long? I can only assume he wasn't thinking clearly due to his adrenaline pumping or something.

 

[pamelado2]

That was one of my biggest questions... why would he think he could evade LE when there were surveillance cameras around. He probably never thought she'd be reported missing that quickly and hoped to erase the footage before the cops came looking for it.

I also wondered why he'd choose to leave her purse/IDs behind, if he wanted people to believe she'd run off with some guy. Maybe he dropped them while rushing to get out of there and didn't think they were worth going back for. BUT THEN, he walked back to the car to slash the tire (& I don't understand what his purpose was for doing that either). According to the timeline, he didn't leave the parking lot until a whopping 15 minutes after the car had stopped shaking. That seems pretty brazen to me. To hang around in broad daylight with a dead body in your passenger seat for that long? I can only assume he wasn't thinking clearly due to his adrenaline pumping or something.

He wouldn't have access to the surveillance footage, look at where the car was - the footage that showed the cars would have to be either the bank's or the strip Mall's parking lot footage.

I wondered if his 1st intention was to make it look like an attack and then later thought people wouldn't look for her if they thought she left willingly and that's when he sent the texts (which was 20 minutes after the tire slash).

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[pamelado2]

I finally found two things we were looking for as to a source! Yipee!

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/parents-of-missing-jacksonville-woman-say-strange-circumstances-surround-her-disappearance/581038609

This link the reporter in the video says she is standing near the spot where the car was, and a photo of the car earlier when it was still there to give you an idea SleuthyLou of where it's at in the parking lot.

This also is the source for what we were saying upthread about HE received he texted back and forth with her before work, and she said she only had to go an hour or two, and he was under the impression she was changing a flat tire. No times are mentioned on the video, and it could indeed have been earlier in the day when she actually was getting a new tire :dunno:


Actual picture of car
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FlatTire
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Reporter states she is standing in spot where car was previously
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and also a screen cap of the text sent at 6:09 pm (NOTE: Other reports said different times, and that the brother and father's texts were 20 minutes apart, and dad received his text when he was leaving for work at 6:30. This text is supposedly the one sent to the father, but clearly shows that it was received at 6:09 pm, just 5 minutes after he was seen driving out at 6:04. Perhaps the timeline upthread is wrong as to text times due to assumptions by the media? :dunno: )
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Thanks so much for finding this! It tells me that no one at bonefish would have seen the car and it wasn't their surveillance video. When I worked at a mall, we had to park about 4-5 rows away from the entrance. When her brother said she wasn't parked the area she normally parked in, that's what I thought of. I bet her brother only noticed her car when he got out to his cuz it was the only one in the lot (besides a few other employees).

I wondered when I first saw the report of the dad's text actually came earlier myself. But I had read he got it when he was leaving work, not for work. That made me think the reception at work wasn't good and the text came through at 6:30 but was sent earlier (or he couldn't look at his phone till 6:30).

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[SleuthyLou]

I finally found two things we were looking for as to a source! Yipee!

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/parents-of-missing-jacksonville-woman-say-strange-circumstances-surround-her-disappearance/581038609

This link the reporter in the video says she is standing near the spot where the car was, and a photo of the car earlier when it was still there to give you an idea SleuthyLou of where it's at in the parking lot.



Actual picture of car
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FlatTire
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Reporter states she is standing in spot where car was previously
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Great find! That definitely matches the photo I posted earlier (attached again here) showing where they parked in the foreground.

 

[SleuthyLou]

Arrow added, her car was in the 4th spot away from the ATM, in case anyone was curious.

 

[Camdenres]

I believe this scenario is what most likely happened. Do not believe there is a chance in hell he planned to murder her in the parking lot at 5:30 on a "Happy Hour" Wednesday afternoon where they both worked. He was enraged!

 

[Bently]

http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Savannah-Gold&lc=2342&pid=186333768&uuid=bc8a5231-3177-4cd1-b75d-bf2d4bc9a9f1

:rose:


In Memory of
Savannah Page Gold
April 26, 1996 - August 2, 2017
Obituary

Savannah Page Gold, Forever 21, of Jacksonville, FL died on August 2, 2017. Savannah was born on April 26, 1996 to Dan and Sherri Gold. She attended LaVilla School of the Arts and Douglas Anderson School of the Arts. Among her many passions, Savannah especially loved playing lacrosse, art, sewing, and dancing. She had an amazing soul and influenced everyone to be a better person. She was a natural caregiver, true empath, animal lover, and avid sports player.


Surviving family members include her parents; brother, CG; grandfather, FP; grandmother, GR; grandfather, EG; nana, RH; and many aunts, uncles and cousins.


A Celebration of Savannah's Life will be held on Saturday, August 12th, 2pm to Dusk, LOSCO Regional Park, Jacksonville. Wear comfortable attire and bring your Lacrosse stick.

Memorials preferred to Hubbard House, www.hubbardhouse.org First Coast No More Homeless Pets, www.fcnmhp.org or the ASPCA, www.aspca.org

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[cvaldez1975]

you dont have to have a DL to have a car. it could have been his or registered to a family member.

Interesting. We have heard through MSM that there was damage to her tire the night before, but it was replaced with a new tire THAT DAY before she went to work iirc in MSM reports.

I too cannot figure out why he would be planning to murder her when they first met. After they talked, and confronted.. yeah, I can see a few scenarios that he planned, in a short period of time in the car, to murder her.

:moo: and thinking out loud also.

ETA: What car was he driving while on a suspended license (which he was originally brought in on) ?Did he live with parents? No information on his car being impounded yet through MSM. Where are the warrant returns through FOIA for such on BOTH cars. e.g. Was there blood in the 1 inch slice to the tire also? The body was found on the same street he used to live, was he still living with parents who still live there? (Against TOS to sleuth family, this is rhetorical question! DO NOT ANSWER that rhetorical question please)

 

[cvaldez1975]

ok, looking at the pix. I thin her car WAS by bank of Ozarks and NOT the stand alone ATM where the reporter is. if you look at the ACTUAL pic of her car, you see the "cigars" stor to the right. that "cigars" store is on the end of the plaza and the bank of Ozarks is to the left of it. unless the stand alone ATM is along that same row of spaces.

I finally found two things we were looking for as to a source! Yipee!

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/parents-of-missing-jacksonville-woman-say-strange-circumstances-surround-her-disappearance/581038609

This link the reporter in the video says she is standing near the spot where the car was, and a photo of the car earlier when it was still there to give you an idea SleuthyLou of where it's at in the parking lot.

This also is the source for what we were saying upthread about HE received he texted back and forth with her before work, and she said she only had to go an hour or two, and he was under the impression she was changing a flat tire. No times are mentioned on the video, and it could indeed have been earlier in the day when she actually was getting a new tire :dunno:


Actual picture of car
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FlatTire
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Reporter states she is standing in spot where car was previously
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and also a screen cap of the text sent at 6:09 pm (NOTE: Other reports said different times, and that the brother and father's texts were 20 minutes apart, and dad received his text when he was leaving for work at 6:30. This text is supposedly the one sent to the father, but clearly shows that it was received at 6:09 pm, just 5 minutes after he was seen driving out at 6:04. Perhaps the timeline upthread is wrong as to text times due to assumptions by the media? :dunno: )
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[cvaldez1975]

are you sure? the reporter was standing there but look at the pic of her car. you can see the "cigars" store.

Arrow added, her car was in the 4th spot away from the ATM, in case anyone was curious.