FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #15

[not_my_kids]

Wait, I thought K called the station?
I have info overload, so I could be wrong.

 

[Noway]

Different fence than Cam's photos. They say in video that this is the the abandoned house. So even though the unmatched fence is in same place as gap in fence in Cam's picture, it's a different fence.

 

[panthera]

I'm going to have to call it a night ~ thanks again to everyone for the great information and photos. I'm just praying LE will find whoever did this, and soon. :seeya:

 

[Noway]

LOL ... BLOW the margins. I'll fix.

 

[MommaD]

that is a 2nd gate noway.... 1st is in the drive way..

 

[concentric]

I see the slide as being something Somer would have been drawn too....I also think that anyone could have been in that side or back yard, as the workers could have been done for the day.....Depending what they are working on sometimes they do one little job starting early in the morning and then they are at a stand still until they can do the next thing.....such as drywall, it has to set overnight......

so if dna eventually rules out the workers, than anyone could have been there..... a neighbor, etc......jmo

That is what I'm thinking too at this point. How can anyone avoid having suspicions about the neighbors near that house and relatives/friends of neighbors?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Noway, that is the same fence just down at the other end by the dumpster, there are two sets of gates.

 

[MommaD]

Here is a good video.. lots of info and the house was a crime scene just not murder scene... shows the swings at park up close.... has 3 different sections on it spliced together. I thought gave good info.. maybe kathy b is training ryan hughes.. lets hope ..

titled Team coverage: Detectives Search for Clues Child Murder

http://www.wftv.com/video/21406596/index.html


ETA: I went to fix that green face smiley but it doesn't show up when I am on this screen.. weird... link works tested it..

 

[SharetheLight]

Wait, I thought K called the station?
I have info overload, so I could be wrong.

Initially I think that was what was reported, then later someone clarified that it was actually a reporter who called K.

How did they know K was even at the house? And why haven't they said any more about this person who in his own words said he was the last person to see Somer alive.

I don't have a link handy. I'll try to find it.

 

[Lipin One]

I wish someone from the Orange Park area would explain the trash situation in here.

That would make things so much easier!

We know the area where the trash in which Somer was found came from zone 3, that is a given.

That garbage could not have been yard refuse.

The weight allowances would've made disposal in regular household garbage impossible, unless there was mutilation. She weighed around 65 pounds, limit is 50. Not sure how strict they are about weight in the containers.

Okay, so today I checked Advanced Disposal, the company with contracts in SE Alabama, S. Georgia, and NE Florida. Someone here suggested that it is the company which handled the garbage in this case.

So, I found out that private CONSTRUCTION debris should be laid out on the curb the same day that regular garbage is picked up. There's no weight limit, but it's limited to one cubic yard (roughly 3 feet x 3 feet x 3 feet) or so. It has to be inside a container, not like yard trash which can be laid out on the ground.

Now, what kind of container would one use to hold a cubic yard?

Does it get picked up by the same trucks that pick up regular household garbage?

Do both types of trash (household and construction debris) end up at the same landfill?

LE knows these details, but they ain't talkin.

 

[hopetohelp]

That is what I'm thinking too at this point. How can anyone avoid having suspicions about the neighbors near that house and relatives/friends of neighbors?

Yeah, but they can't have been there at the time the workers were still there - unless its one of the workers. And there isn't a lot of time in play for the workers to go home, then for Somer to either go back or be abducted back to the house.

But as far as neighbors are concerned, I would think that the police would look at everyone they can along that route from school to home.

 

[cathdawg]

Different fence than Cam's photos. They say in video that this is the the abandoned house. So even though the unmatched fence is in same place as gap in fence in Cam's picture, it's a different fence.

It has a heavy duty chain on it , is this pic taken while Forensic's was there ?

 

[hopetohelp]

Initially I think that was what was reported, then later someone clarified that it was actually a reporter who called K.

How did they know K was even at the house? And why haven't they said any more about this person who in his own words said he was the last person to see Somer alive.

I don't have a link handy. I'll try to find it.

I think you're right about that. Of course, I thought I remembered something earlier that I didn't so...

Anyway, Night All, Getting some sleep tonight!

 

[cathdawg]

I wish someone from the Orange Park area would explain the trash situation in here.

That would make things so much easier!

We know the area where the trash in which Somer was found came from zone 3, that is a given.

That garbage could not have been yard refuse.

The weight allowances would've made disposal in regular household garbage impossible, unless there was mutilation. She weighed around 65 pounds, limit is 50. Not sure how strict they are about weight in the containers.

Okay, so today I checked Advanced Disposal, the company with contracts in SE Alabama, S. Georgia, and NE Florida. Someone here suggested that it is the company which handled the garbage in this case.

So, I found out that private CONSTRUCTION debris should be laid out on the curb the same day that regular garbage is picked up. There's no weight limit, but it's limited to one cubic yard (roughly 3 feet x 3 feet x 3 feet) or so. It has to be inside a container, not like yard trash which can be laid out on the ground.

Now, what kind of container would one use to hold a cubic yard?

Does it get picked up by the same trucks that pick up regular household garbage?

Do both types of trash (household and construction debris) end up at the same landfill?

LE knows these details, but they ain't talkin.

A Dumpster. Sheriff B said a Dumpster, not a can etc.

 

[Noway]

In video it says that J. (unsure of last name, but minor) was riding his bike home from school and says Somer was "running around the tanks" and he thought she was "excited but she had a frown on her face."

Sounds like he would have been on the sidewalk? Do they let people ride bikes on sidewalks there?

 

[MommaD]

I wonder if WK was driving his brown Cadillac when he was stopped??? I would like to know if that guy that got stopped other day on kingsley rd .. what color his van was for sure. Cam said her son said white. then some other poster posted it was brown.. or reddish brown..

So Is LE Looking for a Brown --- Brownish ---- reddish brown auto??

just wish they would give just a few more clues.. just a couple..

I am sorry but I feel a lot of cases go cold because they don't let out info and ppl don't want to accuse someone on just putting their auto in the garage and haven't done it in a while.. season's do change and I don't like getting in my freezing car in the mornings..

 

[cathdawg]

Are we able to confirm that Kyle is Contractor V's assistant? Thx

 

[cathdawg]

FYI , WK GF's child was about 14-15 at the time of the crime. Someone helped me out on this.

 

[Noway]

Yes, that video was from 10/22 and they showed LE inside the house and in the dumpster.

If Somer was in garbage picked up on Wednesday, do you think she was in the garbage dumpster the whole time? Or put there just before pickup on Wednesday morning. How could someone be sure that no trash would be thrown in?

 

[twall]

I think so.. sorry just been so many have to go back and research again probably..

Yes, the RSO related to the painting business was the elderly man (72ish) w/the bruise under left eye, recently arrested for not registering new addy, from JAX if IIRC. Had worn glasses in other pics but not wearing in new pic.
I know name but am not going to post-common name.