FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #24

[sorrell skye]

There have been many ideas discussed over the course of many threads, from RSOs, to neighbors, to carnival workers, to Gano house renovators, all the way to friends of family or family members.

I'm absolutely positive OPLE, FDLE, CCSO, FBI, and that Naval bureau (can't remember the initials right now) are and have done the same. No stone unturned.

When I see a subject being discussed or sleuthed that I don't care for, or disagree with, I tend to scroll right past, as I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

But I think we're all trying to leave no stone unturned, all the while staying within TOS.

AFAIK, mods haven't told us we can't sleuth family members. They've asked us, among other things, to use initials, and we do.

 

[ccane]

If the meds stop one from crying I would accept that fact if there was consistency.

 

[ccane]

IDK - It depends on past pattern of behavior. But, without a doubt, if a person has narcissistic personality disorder, it would have begun to appear in later adolescence, fully formed in early adulthood, and that person has spent their entire life manipulating people and situations to gain the center of attention. Drama queen/king extraordinaire. Risky behaviors/law-breaking are other factors.

But many narcissists are fully functioning, just annoying to be around.

Yep I am married to one hahaha.. I am so serious

 

[human]

Yes, LE has to look at everyone. They have to be objective. They had a special FBI task force that was there, I believe, from whom we have heard nothing.

They profile. They put info in. It's A, B, C, whatever. They can't be attached. The parents are always the first suspects. Just like a spouse or a B/F or a G/F in the murder of an adult.

There is no info out there. There should be press releases from LE saying an update everyday to the community reassuring them that they are doing everything possible. They should say who they have eliminated. Actually, they haven't even eliminated ST. LE should be saying something.

 

[sorrell skye]

If the meds stop one from crying I would accept that fact if there was consistency.

Maybe she alternates between the ones that prevent tear production and the ones that enhance it. :waitasec:

ETA: And if all else fails, there's always the one that simply alters it!

 

[Noway]

Diena Thompson does not strike me as clever enough to have killed Somer and somehow destroyed or altered all forensic evidence, thereby fooling CCSO, the FBI, NCIS, etc.

JMO

 

[paris_paris]

Diena Thompson does not strike me as clever enough to have killed Somer and somehow destroyed or altered all forensic evidence, thereby fooling CCSO, the FBI, NCIS, etc.

JMO

I agree. And I doubt very much if they thought it was her, that they would wait until after Thanksgiving dinner to arrest her (or her boyfriend, friend, teenaged son).

 

[sorrell skye]

Now that's a respectful way to disagree! Thank you Noway, and paris paris!

ETA: I've got a dinner date - so I'm outta here!

It's been an interesting discussion today. Thank you to everyone who participated!

 

[Noway]

I would imagine that as a parent of a murdered child, if you are appearing on TV and are sobbing hysterically, it sort of defeats the purpose of going on TV in the first place. People can't understand you and your pain makes them uncomfortable. They change the channel. JMO

I think Diena pulls herself together as much as she can during these interviews so that she can keep Somer's name out there, which is key to getting the right person to give the right tip.

As an example ... One of the first interviews with her where she is crying so badly -- sort of a wild keening -- that I had to turn it off. I couldn't bear to watch it, and whatever message she was trying to relay was lost on me. It was only recently that I watched the video, with the sound down so I could barely hear.

 

[Noway]

Now that's a respectful way to disagree! Thank you Noway, and paris paris!

ETA: I've got a dinner date - so I'm outta here!

It's been an interesting discussion today. Thank you to everyone who participated!

I was afraid it sounded a little snarky even though that was not how I intended it, but I'm glad you were able to get my point!

I think they have DNA evidence from Somer's body but nobody to match it to. Surely that DNA would have been rushed through so they could compare it to RSOs who have DNA on file and Somer's family members. That is JMO there but it seems like they should rule out the obvious people and then go from there?

 

[panthera]

LE has cleared no one. They have made that very specific. So who would be a better choice. A teenager in the neighborhood of beloved grandparents? A father of 10 who is a neighbor? A minister or priest? A teacher? A coach? It's someone.

Yes, it's someone ~ and I'm still of the thought it's someone who knew Somer, or at least knew her habits, lives in the neighborhood (general area between school and home) and either out of convenience or necessity disposed of her in the trash, such as someone who would've had more difficulty removing her body to another location. MOO

 

[human]

In this case, I don't know if anyone was trying to be clever. I don't think they thought the body was going to be found.

I think it's remiss for LE to say whether or not she was sexually assaulted. That gives rise to the speculations of family involvement ,which is very unfair to the family if she was.

If she was shot, that also is unfair to the family as that probably wouldn't happen with them as well.

If the Gano house has nothing to do with Somer, that is unfair to the construction company.

I don't think most criminals are master criminals that can fool LE. The one sexual offender that I personally knew graduated from 8th grade. I think that they are lucky, not brilliant.

If it was a family member, the evidence would be more tricky as a lot of it could be explained because of living in the home. The DNA, fibers, etc.

So why do you think LE doesn't say anything?

 

[panthera]

I agree, human ~ releasing more information could eliminate some possibilities. MOO

 

[txsvicki]

I'm not trashy, hateful, one to roll around in cow chips, and haven't even seen those Halloween pics. Besides thinking the funeral garb was very inappropriate for the occasion, I've discussed theory that a family member of which DT is one, could have had time if driving by and saw Somer dawdling on the street or at the park. Some of the facts given out about previous wandering, thinking this time was different, coming right home, the pause when discussing flagging dow LE are enough to make some people wonder. Without more facts the family and friends are just as likely to be honestly discussed as strangers in the neighborhood. I'm many many miles away and won't be finding out what happened to Somer from here and I know that, but might be able to figure out a few things using some common sense and the little bits and pieces of things we have to go by.

 

[eyes4crime]

I agree Noway! Mom dt has the arduous task of trying to keep her child's murder up front in the media so people don't forget. Crying and the inability to form coherent, fluent sentences is highly disrupted by sobbing. People don't want to hear or watch it. mho

I'll say it again - tear production is affected by so many artifacts and circumstances. There are meds that will increase and decrease tear production. Underlying disease states affect tear production. Stress affects tear production. Life history affects tear production. We all grieve differently and to judge guilt or innocence on tears is simply a mistake. The psychopath lacks emotion, lacks the ability to 'get' it. Lacks the ability to empathize and be compassionate - the psychopath can cry or not cry.

 

[human]

Do you mean psychopath or sociopath?

 

[sadnpod]

I missed alot of the early video's, vigils, I was too busy and it hurt too much. Recently I have watched most of them (trying to find "Chris") and the first vigil when somer went missing... DT's grief is raw and real and heartbreaking to hear her wailing in the background...it is also unbearable to listen to.

just my opinion... But I also think her behavior is suspect. Her lifestyle and the people in her life could very well play a role in what happened to somer. Distasteful or not, it needs to be addressed..

Just because some of us are new here doesnt mean our input is not valuable or needed.. as I am sure everyone was new here at one time. Our O/T conversations on Thanksgiving were a much needed break. I think occasional O/T conversations help to build a cohesive group and encourages new and old members to voice their opinions in a welcoming atmosphere.

All voices and opinions shared are what promote brainstorming and new ideas... Just my opinions from a still newbie

 

[eyes4crime]

I'm not trashy, hateful, one to roll around in cow chips, and haven't even seen those Halloween pics. Besides thinking the funeral garb was very inappropriate for the occasion, I've discussed theory that a family member of which DT is one, could have had time if driving by and saw Somer dawdling on the street or at the park. Some of the facts given out about previous wandering, thinking this time was different, coming right home, the pause when discussing flagging dow LE are enough to make some people wonder. Without more facts the family and friends are just as likely to be honestly discussed as strangers in the neighborhood. I'm many many miles away and won't be finding out what happened to Somer from here and I know that, but might be able to figure out a few things using some common sense and the little bits and pieces of things we have to go by.

I never once said YOU were trashy and hateful and roll around in cow chips. Why so defensive? The comments aimed at mom T. can be and have been very trashy, hateful, and smell of cow manure. If you look back through the threads, you will see that they come from a small number of people. Some names stand out and some don't. There are ways to look at, and assign guilt, without trashing a person. To me, using a party from over a year ago to make a point borders on desperate. This is my opinion mho

 

[ccane]

I went and looked at other posters posts for awhile and find it interesting that someone would criticize us for looking at DT when they themselves are looking at supects not named yet by LE another board?

 

[eyes4crime]

I went and looked at other posters posts for awhile and find it interesting that someone would criticize us for looking at DT when they themselves are looking at supects not named yet by LE another board?

Well good for you! I hope you have a chance to 'nail' that person!!!!