FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #34

[ccane]

Autopsies are conducted by GBI medical examiners at the headquarters laboratory in Decatur and in the regional laboratories in Augusta, Macon, Moultrie, Savannah and Summerville. Staff at the headquarters medical examiner’s office consists of eight medical examiners, ten investigators, five forensic pathology assistants, two photographers, two secretaries, and three transcriptionists. One of the medical examiners at the headquarters lab specializes in pediatric pathology and the evaluation of fatal and non-fatal pediatric injury.
http://gbi.georgia.gov/00/channel_title/0,2094,67862954_74028035,00.html

 

[ccane]

Forensic Art
http://gbi.georgia.gov/00/channel_modifieddate/0,2096,67862954_88103923,00.html

 

[human]

Since there are some new people on here, I wonder if any of you have any ideas why Kyle's last name was never given?

Even children's last names were given.

Vinson Design and Build was named. The owner was named. And the owner's brother was named, including a middle along with pictures of him.

What is the deal with Kyle? He's not like Cher or Prince, each of one name.

 

[houndstooth]

Oh? So when LE as you stated earlier lie to a suspect what about ME's in those cases?
I think there has been a deception. For good reasons by LE to catch a killer.

I have stated everything several times on here. Rather than go through this again, or annoy certain posters I will take my leave and let you supersleuths figure this out.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!!

 

[zannah]

Since there are some new people on here, I wonder if any of you have any ideas why Kyle's last name was never given?

Even children's last names were given.

Vinson Design and Build was named. The owner was named. And the owner's brother was named, including a middle along with pictures of him.

What is the deal with Kyle? He's not like Cher or Prince, each of one name.

Originally I just passed it off as being due to him being a minor. Now I'm not so sure as I'm looking into other possibilities of who he might be. Perhaps he holds a visible post in the community, and felt it might damage his reputation in some way?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Since there are some new people on here, I wonder if any of you have any ideas why Kyle's last name was never given?

Even children's last names were given.

Vinson Design and Build was named. The owner was named. And the owner's brother was named, including a middle along with pictures of him.

What is the deal with Kyle? He's not like Cher or Prince, each of one name.

He made the statement to that he was the last person to see her alive. Makes no sense he was so protected.

 

[human]

Originally I just passed it off as being due to him being a minor. Now I'm not so sure as I'm looking into other possibilities of who he might be. Perhaps he holds a visible post in the community, and felt it might damage his reputation in some way?

so will you tell us what you come up with?

 

[ChickenPants]

Autopsies are conducted by GBI medical examiners at the headquarters laboratory in Decatur and in the regional laboratories in Augusta, Macon, Moultrie, Savannah and Summerville. Staff at the headquarters medical examiner’s office consists of eight medical examiners, ten investigators, five forensic pathology assistants, two photographers, two secretaries, and three transcriptionists. One of the medical examiners at the headquarters lab specializes in pediatric pathology and the evaluation of fatal and non-fatal pediatric injury.
http://gbi.georgia.gov/00/channel_title/0,2094,67862954_74028035,00.html

According to standard protocol, the autopsy is always performed in the state where a body is found, under the jurisdication of that State's Medical Examiner. It is that Cornorer who is responsible for relaying the findings to any person who are legally entitled to receive the information.

I have been interested in the fact that Somer was killed in FL, but because the technical time of death would have been recorded in GA, how that portion is handled. But it really has no significant bearing on the murder, per se.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I am not going to post the fbi statistics again that show that the overwhelming majority of child abduction and homicides occur because children are unsupervised.

Or the statistics that show that a parent's failure to supervise child(ren) is on the checklist for child endangerment.

I think it is perfectly clear that her wandering around unsupervised is has everything to do with the murder, with the exception of the deed itself.

I don't think it's perfectly clear at all.

You simply can not take a bunch of statistics and solve a murder.

Statistics are great to get a feel for what may have happened but not in saying what did happen.

Not sure how anything could be perfectly clear with no evidence. JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

How about the fact that in one video clip, DT said: "I wish I would have walked her home that day...I feel so guilty."

No, I am not going to go back and look it up for anyone.

ok my computer is broke so I'm trying to respond to all of my posts you quoted but I'm on my phone.

I do not need you to go back and look it up for me. I've followed this case very closely since day one and I realize DT said she feels guilty. IMO any parent would.

IMO there is not a single parent who has lost a child to murder that does not feel guilty. Dr fessel posted info on this Sunday. Guilt is a natural greiving step in a child death.

 

[ChickenPants]

http://www.medicine.uiowa.edu/path_handbook/Appendix/AnatomicPath/AUTOPSY.HTML

This link provides very useful information about autopsy and autopsy report protocol.
It distinguishes between COD and manner of death, etc., which is a subject many of us have asked for clarification on.

 

[ChickenPants]

I don't think it's perfectly clear at all.

You simply can not take a bunch of statistics and solve a murder.

Statistics are great to get a feel for what may have happened but not in saying what did happen.

Not sure how anything could be perfectly clear with no evidence. JMO

I apologize for inferring that statistics could solve a murder. Statistics can indicate information on murder, higher incidences and likelihoods of how some murders occur, etc. Many studies have been done to make greater improvemements in preventing murders and statistics have been helpful in targeting trends to prevent future murders from happening.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

JMO, but I would think anyone would wait until the evening. Not just because it's dark, but there's less people around. Even if they concealed her somehow, like a trash bag, I wouldn't think they would want to risk someone remembering them around whatever dumpster she was put in. I'm not too familar with this business, but IIRC you can't see the dumpster from the road. To me, no dumpster is a good spot and would be too risky, but I don't think like a killer I guess. Nothing stands out to me about this spot. I could think of a ton other more concealed places, but IDK, I look at all dumpsters in Orange Park suspiciously since this happened.

But like I said before, I don't seriously believe this was where she was left.

I think if the someone threw away say a rug,tarp,container of some kind,something in contruction and it was a company truck at the company or even else where people might not think anything of it.

 

[ChickenPants]

THIS LINK IS FROM FLORIDA LE. It has specific information on RELEASE OF RECORDS TO INDIVIDUAL OR PUBLIC DURING ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS and answers a lot of questions by posters about these topics. It is very interesting and comprehensive.
http://myfloridalegal.com/sun.nsf/manual/1BB05D142D8E4724852566F3006C7A1A

 

[camcneishg]

finding this info in the school handbook for Somer's school....fwiw....

"Just as there is no adult supervision before 8 AM, no campus supervision is available after 3 PM. It is important that children be picked up in a timely manner"

Dismissal times:
Bus students and day care vans: 2:25
Walkers and bikers....................2:30
Car Riders...............................2:32

Detention is assigned after school for 30 min....

http://www.clay.k12.fl.us/gpe/PDF/gpe_student_handbook.pdf

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Ok I give up. Very hard to quote and post on this dang phone.

My opinion is that Somer was not watched/stalked/targeted.
I believe this was a sexually motivated murder and SOs often make snap decisions to take a child. She ran ahead, she was alone and he acted.

This is my opinion and I'm not stating it as fact or saying it is perfectly clear.
IMO nothing in this case is perfectly clear except Somer is in heaven.

Rest in peace baby girl!
I'm still praying for justice for you and peace for your family.

 

[dar107]

BBM - Dark, Yes - although there are some specific people in mind -- with further review we are noticing there are several more people who could fit in the perp profile

I don't have "inside" info persay -- but I have a good idea of some things after talking to LE - but nothing specific was released to us in an official capacity.

I would also like to express a few of my thoughts.

Some of us are being cast off as ridiculous in anything we bring to the table -theories, suspects etc..- it comes to the point where posting is an effort because anything we sleuth is deemed as "unofficial" -- or impossible or "what could we be thinking" - it has that whole "that's stupid" expression to it --


It is also VERY frustrating that some that feel this way can't even go out and find simple info on the net -- non-sleuthing case stuff -not able to obtain info that is basic example: Florida laws etc --

Therefore, your doubt of the people who do sleuth, gather info, strategize these cases for 12 + hours a day - it is rather insulting to the work some of us do here -- go sleuth the case -- get creative and dig and DIG HARDER -- there are lots that do this and have brought some good leads into LE -- It isn't about being right or wrong -- it is about Justice for Somer -- We may not be right in the end but at least we tried FOR SOMER -- I feel that there is more counter-productivity more than anything -- What happened to having an open mind -- I have changed my opinion 10000X times on this case -- FINALLY, with enough sleuthing I have come to put my feet down on potential perps -- There are a lot of other posters here that have a different POI in mind and we may disagree but I commend them because they make the same efforts on this case with tremendous sleuthing abilities and they believe in what they think, the effort and strategy put forth-- In the end it is about SOMER -

- I will NEVER for the life of me be able to wrap my head around how some people feel DT parented in the most positive light and those reports had zero basis because they said so -- after several people have show facts and statistics about how difficult it is to prove abuse and neglect in the home -- But in your own lives that must be acceptable behavior therefore I understand and respect your opinion - because I know for myself if I defend something that is unpopular it must mean I march to the same beat or have the same beliefs -- that is fine -- I feel bad for Somer - this is about her -

I had been having nice dreams with signs from Somer - last night it was an UTTER nightmare -- with the word MADD on FIRE getting bigger and bigger in front of my face --- I think Somer is getting frustrated up in heaven -- Well, I promise Somer that I am going to keep digging on this case -- whether it helps or not - it is a A for Effort in memory of this sweet precious girl who lost her life to soon!!! RIP SOMER!

Wow... I was only asking for clarification of your post! I do not have 12 hours a day to sleuth. I believe mom is innocent and i come on when I can. If the discussion is revolving around her, which it has been for awhile, I make comments where I can. I never try to attack others opinions, I try to give alternative scenarios or defend a grieving mother, IMO. I only asked you to clarify if LE had minor suspects!! Never said a word about anyone being ridiculous or stupid! I appreciate every ones hard work and believe in what Websleuths tries to do. But I am also entitled to my opinion as is everyone else.

p.s t is obvious how much you care for the plight of victims and I can see by your posts how hard you work looking for justice for little Somer and others as well I am sure. I am here because I care to. I am sorry if you took my question the wrong way, i was trying to dig deeper on the minor possibility is all.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Originally I just passed it off as being due to him being a minor. Now I'm not so sure as I'm looking into other possibilities of who he might be. Perhaps he holds a visible post in the community, and felt it might damage his reputation in some way?

That's what I was thinking he might be from a prominent family or considered a suspect by LE.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Since there are some new people on here, I wonder if any of you have any ideas why Kyle's last name was never given?

Even children's last names were given.

Vinson Design and Build was named. The owner was named. And the owner's brother was named, including a middle along with pictures of him.

What is the deal with Kyle? He's not like Cher or Prince, each of one name.

I'm not new but I'd like to give my opinion on this...

I think he is being looked into and they don't want to give any info out on him for people like us to sleuth.

I keep thinking back to the comment the sheriff made about the case was not gonna be solved by computer hoodoo or voodoo or something like that. I don't remember his exact statement. It was very early on.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I'm not new but I'd like to give my opinion on this...

I think he is being looked into and they don't want to give any info out on him for people like us to sleuth.

I keep thinking back to the comment the sheriff made about the case was not gonna be solved by computer hoodoo or voodoo or something like that. I don't remember his exact statement. It was very early on.

I agree.I do feel somers case will be solved by DNA evidence.