FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #38

[LFlorida]

I wonder if the alleged rug she was wrapped in matched any of the real rugs in the Gano house ...

Or a rug in the video?

 

[New1]

If it's true about the rug, this is most likely why LE ruled it a homicide so quickly after discovering the body at the landfill.

 

[Spyglass]

I remember hearing on the news right after the little body was found that first a leg was spotted sticking up from a roll of carpet or rug. I can't remember if it was the reporter or the father who gave that info. If you remember, right after she was found, the father did give new info he had been given by LE.

 

[eyes4crime]

I remember hearing on the news right after the little body was found that first a leg was spotted sticking up from a roll of carpet or rug. I can't remember if it was the reporter or the father who gave that info. If you remember, right after she was found, the father did give new info he had been given by LE.

I remember the father, Sam, gave new info that soot was found on Somer, a reason for so many to think the burnt house on Gano was the crime scene...but since then - Sadnpod, a friend of the family has been on the Somer thread and said he made a 'mistake' in saying that. I never heard him say anything about carpet - but the speculation at the time was that she was found wraped in carpet. MOO

 

[Dee10]

Good find New!!!:blowkiss: I am hoping this roll of carpet helped to somewhat protect any forensics on Somer & hopefully help other items from contaminating her as much as possible that is.

 

[New1]

And IF she was found wrapped in a rug (IN THE FOLKSTON GEORGIA LANDFILL), doesn't that tell us that she did NOT go through the trash compactor and stay wrapped in a rug? Or does it? After being dumped in a dumpster and jostled around in a trash truck, going through a trash compactor, then dumped in a landfill, would the body still be wrapped in a rug? How could it be?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

And IF she was found wrapped in a rug (IN THE FOLKSTON GEORGIA LANDFILL), doesn't that tell us that she did NOT go through the trash compactor and stay wrapped in a rug? Or does it? After being dumped in a dumpster and jostled around in a trash truck, going through a trash compactor, then dumped in a landfill, would the body still be wrapped in a rug? How could it be?

Maybe if it was tied up or taped up?

 

[Dee10]

LOL, we always come back to the garbage. There were too many different stories from the press on what happens to the garbage for my liking.

If I had to choose one of the stories, I would pick the one that said commercial dumpsters are picked up by truck & sent directly to Folston. I do believe a carpet would stay relatively intact, although I could see the weight of her body shifting inside the carpet.

 

[amytlake]

at :54 in the video - right as the reporter begins to speak about the carpet, notice there is a CSI guy with some kind of tool in his right hand. Does it appear to be something one uses to pull back carpet? or is it a trowel?
It all makes sense now - Thanks NEW1!!! I bet it WAS carpet they may have found that matched that of the rug she was wrapped in?
Or if she were wrapped in a persian type of area rug, maybe there was a matching one there in the home?

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

at :54 in the video - right as the reporter begins to speak about the carpet, notice there is a CSI guy with some kind of tool in his right hand. Does it appear to be something one uses to pull back carpet? or is it a trowel?
It all makes sense now - Thanks NEW1!!! I bet it WAS carpet they may have found that matched that of the rug she was wrapped in?
Or if she were wrapped in a persian type of area rug, maybe there was a matching one there in the home?

Or if she was wrapped in some carpet or rug from the burned out house, maybe that is the reason the soot was mentioned?

 

[New1]

Maybe if it was tied up or taped up?

Yeah, I thought of that, but it would have had to be really securely tied or taped to still be wrapped after going through all that I would think. I thought a trash compactor would probably grind up things, not just flatten them. Is that wrong? I don't know anything about trash compactors. Do they have grinders or any kind of shredders?

 

[amytlake]

Or if she was wrapped in some carpet or rug from the burned out house, maybe that is the reason the soot was mentioned?

That would make sense.. i just have a hard time picturing him driving up to the burnt house, backing in, grabbing the carpet from the dumpster (which can be awkward and heavy) without being noticed. Even if he did it at night, wasn't it rumored that teens and/or others sometimes went to that house at night and drank/hung out?
Seems risky - but as i type that, JH doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed.
The other thing that i just thought of though, if he took some carpet from the burnt house wouldn't there be other remnants of that same carpet in the dumpster that LE/CSI/reporters would have seen? I don't really recall seeing any carpet remnants in the Gano dumpster videos.
But again it makes sense. it would explain why upon finding Somer's body, they went straight to the Gano house to search for evidence. If she had soot on her from the carpet, it would make sense that they would go and search that house.....
hmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Yeah, I thought of that, but it would have had to be really securely tied or taped to still be wrapped after going through all that I would think. I thought a trash compactor would probably grind up things, not just flatten them. Is that wrong? I don't know anything about trash compactors. Do they have grinders or any kind of shredders?

The ones I have seen just smash or compact.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I bet they had a piece of carpet or rug in the shed!

 

[amytlake]

I hate to say things like this, but the fact that she may have been wrapped in a rug will at least keep her somewhat protected from cross contamination in the garbage. I hope that keeps any DNA found on her intact.
And if JH did do this, used a rug/carpet and then used tape to secure the rug, maybe he left fingerprints on the tape.
but if they had fingerprint evidence, i guess they would have already charged him.

 

[pinamia]

I hate to say things like this, but the fact that she may have been wrapped in a rug will at least keep her somewhat protected from cross contamination in the garbage. I hope that keeps any DNA found on her intact.
And if JH did do this, used a rug/carpet and then used tape to secure the rug, maybe he left fingerprints on the tape.
but if they had fingerprint evidence, i guess they would have already charged him.

If there was a carpet then why wouldn't LE mention it and look for any clues related to it? I highly doubt Somer was wrapped in a carpet.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I hate to say things like this, but the fact that she may have been wrapped in a rug will at least keep her somewhat protected from cross contamination in the garbage. I hope that keeps any DNA found on her intact.
And if JH did do this, used a rug/carpet and then used tape to secure the rug, maybe he left fingerprints on the tape.
but if they had fingerprint evidence, i guess they would have already charged him.

I think they have explained they are in no rush to charge him.
That to me does not say there is no fingerprint evidence or other evidence, it says to me they are getting as much evidence together before they charge him.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

If there was a carpet then why wouldn't LE mention it and look for any clues related to it? I highly doubt Somer was wrapped in a carpet.

Maybe in hopes of the killer not getting rid of the matching carpet?

 

[pinamia]

Maybe in hopes of the killer not getting rid of the matching carpet?

Carpets have skin cells on them so there is no way that DNA couldn't be extracted from the carpet. It would be an easy arrest if this were the case. No matching carpet would be needed.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

If there was a carpet then why wouldn't LE mention it and look for any clues related to it? I highly doubt Somer was wrapped in a carpet.

Another reason is only the killer would know she was in carpet.