FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #38

[eyes4crime]

Or if she was wrapped in some carpet or rug from the burned out house, maybe that is the reason the soot was mentioned?

We were told here at Websleuths that there was no soot on Somer. Sad who has known Somer's dad for the last two years says he made a mistake and listened to someone without credibility. However, that information was never cleared up or retracted on NG.

If Somer was wrapped up in a piece of carpet, it would make sense as to why they searched the dumpster at the burnt out house. It could also make sense as to why they found evidence at JH's house that led them to call him a POI. Don't know if there was a carpet, could be just rumor. That's why hoppy, our mod, and all of us try so hard to label rumor for what it is, rumor. MOO

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Carpets have skin cells on them so there is no way that DNA couldn't be extracted from the carpet. It would be an easy arrest if this were the case. No matching carpet would be needed.

You know I would think that would be a pretty complicated test to separate all the all the DNA that might be found on a carpet from skin cells. Maybe that is one of the test that came back right before his arrest.

 

[eyes4crime]

Carpets have skin cells on them so there is no way that DNA couldn't be extracted from the carpet. It would be an easy arrest if this were the case. No matching carpet would be needed.

Carpets also have fibers that transfer easily to anyone coming in contact with it - so if Somer was on the carpet or wrapped up in one, the fibers might be under her nails, in her hair, stuck in her clothes, etc. Unless, of course, the carpet was heavily contaminated by the garbage. MOO

 

[New1]

That would make sense.. i just have a hard time picturing him driving up to the burnt house, backing in, grabbing the carpet from the dumpster (which can be awkward and heavy) without being noticed. Even if he did it at night, wasn't it rumored that teens and/or others sometimes went to that house at night and drank/hung out?
Seems risky - but as i type that, JH doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed.
The other thing that i just thought of though, if he took some carpet from the burnt house wouldn't there be other remnants of that same carpet in the dumpster that LE/CSI/reporters would have seen? I don't really recall seeing any carpet remnants in the Gano dumpster videos.
But again it makes sense. it would explain why upon finding Somer's body, they went straight to the Gano house to search for evidence. If she had soot on her from the carpet, it would make sense that they would go and search that house.....
hmmmmmmmmmmm

And, if he did it at night, THAT night there were searchers all over that street! He would have surely been noticed taking carpet out of a dumpster or out of a house with all those LE and other people searching the neighborhood and in particular Gano Ave. where Somer was last seen.

 

[tarabull]

Somer's Sunshine 5K Run

Type: Sports - Sporting Event
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010
Time: 8:30am - 12:00pm
Location: Orange Park, FLorida

Description:
Mad Science of Jacksonville is organizing a 5K Run/Kid Fun Run in memory of Somer Thompson. It is our hope that this event will bring together young and old alike to remember this sweet angel who was taken away from her family and friends all too soon. Somer is gone, but she will NEVER be forgotten.

There will be a Kid Fun Run prior to the 5K. The run will start and end across the street from The Orange Park Town Hall (Kingsley and Park Avenue) and will continue along the river. There will be a Pre/Post race celebration at The Orange Park Town Center.

Proceeds from this event will benefit Somer's family.

This event is still in the early stages of planning. Please continue to check back for more updates.

Should anyone wish to volunteer at this event (from helping that day to donating services for the Pre/Post race celebrations or even help with sponsoring the event) please call us at: (904) 288-0105

 

[tarabull]

Somer Jam

Type: Causes - Fundraiser
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010
Time: 3:00pm - 11:00pm
Location: The Jacksonville Landing

Description::SOMER THOMPSON FOUNDATION KICK-OFF::
Information about the foundation will be revealed at the concert

Diena Thompson found herself living every parent’s worst nightmare when her 7 year old daughter went missing on October 19, 2009. Two days later, in a Georgia landfill, Somer’s body was discovered. The community felt an immediate call to action.
Molly Hatchet’s biggest contribution to this case is the song that was written in Somer Thompson’s memory. “Fly on Wings of Angels” is a beautiful ballad that opens with Somer’s older sister, Abby, singing “You are my Sunshine”, Somer’s favorite song. The song will be the first single on the bands new album titled “JUSTICE” which will be released June 1, 2010.

The Molly Hatchet Band will be performing at The Jacksonville Landing on March 27th, 2010 along with HOLLYWOOD LOVESCENE, FIT FOR RIVALS, SOMETHING DISTANT, SHAWN FISHER and the JUKEBOX GYPSIES, and RED JUMPSUIT APPARATUS(playing acoustic).

This single has already touched America’s heart and brought forth an awareness that community involvement can make a difference by bringing people together and in helping one another in time of tragedy and seeking…JUSTICE !!

There will be a $20 donation at the gate.

Personal and Business Sponsorship opportunities are available.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Somer's Sunshine 5K Run

Type: Sports - Sporting Event
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010
Time: 8:30am - 12:00pm
Location: Orange Park, FLorida

Description:
Mad Science of Jacksonville is organizing a 5K Run/Kid Fun Run in memory of Somer Thompson. It is our hope that this event will bring together young and old alike to remember this sweet angel who was taken away from her family and friends all too soon. Somer is gone, but she will NEVER be forgotten.

There will be a Kid Fun Run prior to the 5K. The run will start and end across the street from The Orange Park Town Hall (Kingsley and Park Avenue) and will continue along the river. There will be a Pre/Post race celebration at The Orange Park Town Center.

Proceeds from this event will benefit Somer's family.

This event is still in the early stages of planning. Please continue to check back for more updates.

Should anyone wish to volunteer at this event (from helping that day to donating services for the Pre/Post race celebrations or even help with sponsoring the event) please call us at: (904) 288-0105

That is wonderful. I hope there is tons of support on the day.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I would love to hear this song.

Recorded in December 2009 and January 2010 by engineer Tommy Newton and produced by Bobby Ingram in Germany, "Justice" consists of 12 songs in total and is a representative cross-section of over thirty years of band experience. Cornerstones on this album are the title track, which — according to Ingram — is a successor to epic songs like "Fall Of The Peacemakers" and "The Journey", and the song "Fly On Wings Of Angels", which the band wrote for young murdered victim Somer Thompson
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=133977

 

[Dr.Fessel]

This will be beautiful.


Molly Hatchet’s biggest contribution to this case is the song that was written in Somer Thompson’s memory. “Fly on Wings of Angels” is a beautiful ballad that opens with Somer’s older sister, Abby, singing “You are my Sunshine”, Somer’s favorite song. The song will be the first single on the bands new album titled “JUSTICE” which will be released June 1, 2010.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

We were told here at Websleuths that there was no soot on Somer. Sad who has known Somer's dad for the last two years says he made a mistake and listened to someone without credibility. However, that information was never cleared up or retracted on NG.

If Somer was wrapped up in a piece of carpet, it would make sense as to why they searched the dumpster at the burnt out house. It could also make sense as to why they found evidence at JH's house that led them to call him a POI. Don't know if there was a carpet, could be just rumor. That's why hoppy, our mod, and all of us try so hard to label rumor for what it is, rumor. MOO

I don't know about rumours, but more speculating on what might have happened to Somer. It all has such an aura of mystery, as to what actually happened to her that day. I know that perhaps the soot on her is probably misinformation, but can't be absolutely 100% positive.? The only way anyone would know positively is from the autopsy report, or any other reliable scource.
I imagine that if there was soot evidence on her, then it may have been possible the scene of the crime was at the burnt out house, she may have then been put in some kind of carpet and placed into a vehicle, and transported from there, long before L.E and others started looking for her?
If it was verified that everyone at the burnt out house on the day was cleared of all involvement with Somer's murder, and J.H. was indeed nowhere around that house on the day, then i guess all of this is highly unlikely.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I would love to hear this song.

Recorded in December 2009 and January 2010 by engineer Tommy Newton and produced by Bobby Ingram in Germany, "Justice" consists of 12 songs in total and is a representative cross-section of over thirty years of band experience. Cornerstones on this album are the title track, which — according to Ingram — is a successor to epic songs like "Fall Of The Peacemakers" and "The Journey", and the song "Fly On Wings Of Angels", which the band wrote for young murdered victim Somer Thompson
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=133977

That is really beautiful.

 

[Dee10]

Somer talked to Kyle that day at the burnt house, it would make sense she would have traces of soot, at least on her feet. I believe Sad pointed out that the person who told Sam was not always credible, I took it as take it will a grain of salt, just not as fact. Maybe the person right this time (just didn't hear it from LE perhaps), who knows? But, it would surprise me if she didn't have soot on her & that is one reason they may have concentrated on the burnt house, other reasons could be Kyle was one of the last people to speak with her, Somer being last scene in that vicinity, vacant house, RSO at one time working there, etc.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Amanda has the video saved now.

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[Kimberlyd125]

Ok, after watching this...I am convinced she was wrapped in a rug. Why else would the reporter state it in such a matter of fact way?
It's not like she was spectulating, she flat out said it.

She had to get that info from somewhere IMO.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Yes, she did clearly state on that report, "wrapped in a rug, and thrown in the trash!". I would think by "rug", she did not mean carpet either! Some kind of floor rug, i would imagine. From that i would think L.E. could have collected plenty of forensic evidence also? Maybe depending on what kind of contamination?

 

[eyes4crime]

Ok, after watching this...I am convinced she was wrapped in a rug. Why else would the reporter state it in such a matter of fact way?
It's not like she was spectulating, she flat out said it.

She had to get that info from somewhere IMO.

The reporter does sound confident about what she is saying - but they say what the writers put down for them, and it's just a possibility that the writer may have made a mistake. Just a possibility. MOO

 

[New1]

I hope they have more than DNA as evidence because can you imagine all the DNA in that carpet that would have been transferred to somer's body if she was rolled up in it. Of course they would expect JH's DNA to be on a carpet in his own house. Then everyone who had been on that carpet while it was there, like JH's mother and stepfather for sure, their friends and family and God knows who else came in and out of that house over time.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

The reporter does sound confident about what she is saying - but they say what the writers put down for them, and it's just a possibility that the writer may have made a mistake. Just a possibility. MOO

Well, that is always a possibility i suppose.

 

[New1]

Somer's Sunshine 5K Run

Type: Sports - Sporting Event
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010
Time: 8:30am - 12:00pm
Location: Orange Park, FLorida

Description:
Mad Science of Jacksonville is organizing a 5K Run/Kid Fun Run in memory of Somer Thompson. It is our hope that this event will bring together young and old alike to remember this sweet angel who was taken away from her family and friends all too soon. Somer is gone, but she will NEVER be forgotten.

There will be a Kid Fun Run prior to the 5K. The run will start and end across the street from The Orange Park Town Hall (Kingsley and Park Avenue) and will continue along the river. There will be a Pre/Post race celebration at The Orange Park Town Center.

Proceeds from this event will benefit Somer's family.

This event is still in the early stages of planning. Please continue to check back for more updates.

Should anyone wish to volunteer at this event (from helping that day to donating services for the Pre/Post race celebrations or even help with sponsoring the event) please call us at: (904) 288-0105

Another fundraiser? No other case I have ever heard of has had this many fundraisers.

 

[Dee10]

I hope they have more than DNA as evidence because can you imagine all the DNA in that carpet that would have been transferred to somer's body if she was rolled up in it. Of course they would expect JH's DNA to be on a carpet in his own house. Then everyone who had been on that carpet while it was there, like JH's mother and stepfather for sure, their friends and family and God knows who else came in and out of that house over time.

Maybe that is what is taking the time? Could it be a left over piece that was in the garage, that was cut-off as it was not needed (could be many years old, but new)? Regardless, I think it would come down to who had access to the house to remove the carpet or rug if this is where it came from.