GUILTY FL - Wayne Treacy for savage beating of 15yo girl, Deerfield Beach, 17 March 2010

[SkewedView]

All I can say about idiot-boy's parents is, about what I expected, but still :banghead: - what a pair of bloomin idiots! Grrrr.

That said, they should apologise to K's family, since regardless of her pointing Josie out, if he had an ounce of humanity in him he wouldn't have done anything more than yell at her and K's family wouldn't be facing losing their kid to the prison system. JMO.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

The one question I want to ask Treacy's parents:

WHO bought him the steel toed boots? WHY did you buy him those steel toed boots? WHAT reasoning did he (Treacy) give you (parent) for needing those boots?

My DH works construction. For decades I have been charged with buying the "steeltoed boots". He needs the strongest and best available due to his specific work. Those things are not cheap! And, those things are weapons. DH was physically sick when we heard about this happening. He could never imagine kicking ANYTHING much less SOMEONE'S HEAD with those on.

I have a teenage DD and a 20 yr old DS - both have never asked for, talked about, commented on any of thier friends (or themselves) about needing steel toed boots because "that's what the other kids are wearing" or whatever "fashion fad" excuse you want to use. Never heard that Treacy was working any type of construction work that would warrant this either. So, again,

WHO bought those boots for him? WHY did you buy those boots for him? WHAT was the reasoning that he needed "steel toed boots" at 15?

 

[reen]

The one question I want to ask Treacy's parents:

WHO bought him the steel toed boots? WHY did you buy him those steel toed boots? WHAT reasoning did he (Treacy) give you (parent) for needing those boots?

My DH works construction. For decades I have been charged with buying the "steeltoed boots". He needs the strongest and best available due to his specific work. Those things are not cheap! And, those things are weapons. DH was physically sick when we heard about this happening. He could never imagine kicking ANYTHING much less SOMEONE'S HEAD with those on.

I have a teenage DD and a 20 yr old DS - both have never asked for, talked about, commented on any of thier friends (or themselves) about needing steel toed boots because "that's what the other kids are wearing" or whatever "fashion fad" excuse you want to use. Never heard that Treacy was working any type of construction work that would warrant this either. So, again,

WHO bought those boots for him? WHY did you buy those boots for him? WHAT was the reasoning that he needed "steel toed boots" at 15?

I own a pair for motorcycling. Maybe he was into dirt bikes? Otherwise, I can't see a reason for a teen to own them either.

 

[SkewedView]

I own a pair for motorcycling. Maybe he was into dirt bikes? Otherwise, I can't see a reason for a teen to own them either.

To be honest, I owned a pair of them when I was that age, but that was because I liked work boots and the steel toe ones were better made and didn't fall apart as fast...and because I tend to get distracted when I'm walking and stub my toes alot :blushing: Somehow I don't think that was his reasoning though...

 

[Belinda]

Apparently my last comment offended the gods and was deleted (just kidding). Seriously though, I didn't mean to offend, that is just the name I have always heard them called. As I said, I do own a pair for my trike. I also had them when I was his age, but they were passed down from my mom who was a cop. It seems to me that the boy had the boots for just this reason, or he would not have specifically thought to retrieve them before the attack.

 

[kbl8201]

Well their attitude is not surprising to me. Kids with a stable upbringing by decent parents don't tend to do things like this. Granted, sometimes kids with every advantage (two parent home, good upbringing, finacial security, etc etc) occassionally will "go rogue" and behave in a way that is completely abherent to their upbringing - but not often.

Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree. He gets a hurtful text and reacts with unbelievable violence and anger. Mom and dad's child has committed a horrible, inexcusable act and they react with anger - at the victim, as if their poor son is the true victim. sigh. MOnkey see - monkey do. How many times did they say dad had been incarcerated? Wanna bet it was always someone else's fault? Just sayin

well some people who dont have a stable upbringing manage to teach themselves whats right or wrong

 

[tlcya]

well some people who dont have a stable upbringing manage to teach themselves whats right or wrong

Absolutely! ITA

 

[Belinda]

I have checked your posting history and not a single one of your posts has been deleted or edited.

Thanks so much, adnoid. Must have done something wrong somewhere. However, I really didn't use a very good word, so it's just as well.

 

[elle1919]

Wow watching this video is torture for me. Must have been pure hell for Josie's mother, I hope she didn't watch. Treacy's parents could have set the record straight with the first question Matt L asked them

ML: Why did you finally decide to do this interview?

Treacy Mother: To get Wayne's side of the story out there.

Really? Not to apologize for her son beating JOSIE within inches of her life?

Stepdad sure had plenty to say. He stated that Wayne had a lot on his plate for a 15 year old...found his brother hanging in a tree and almost lost 4 people in the month of October 2009. Well what story are they going with? he had issues or he didn't?

Stepdad said: Evidently Josie said something very derogatory about his brothers death? I have to ask how Treacy knew Josie was the one who sent him a derogatory message when it was reported that the ex girlfriend had been sending him text messages earlier in the day. Do we know if Josie was the one who sent the message yet?

Poor interview in my opinion. My prayers for Josie continue.

 

[dgfred]

Someone told me today that the aunt's (?) facebook page set up for Josie said that she had been sitting up, recognized her but couldn't swallow or talk.
They also stated she was having extreme headaches and could not remember what happened... so better news at least if true.

 

[kbl8201]

step dad needs to shut up. if he thinks derogotry things are being said about his family, he should come here............im sure we'd all be in for beatings!

 

[Vegas Bride]

I wish Matt L had done his job and asked better questions. When step-dad began talking about how he had gone through a lot and had so much on his plate, why didn't Matt ask him what they were doing for him because of that? Why not ask about him having a 13 yo girlfriend? And I would have liked him to ask why he had those boots also.
IMO they're circling the wagons to protect whats theirs.

VB

 

[jjenny]

Wow watching this video is torture for me. Must have been pure hell for Josie's mother, I hope she didn't watch. Treacy's parents could have set the record straight with the first question Matt L asked them

ML: Why did you finally decide to do this interview?

Treacy Mother: To get Wayne's side of the story out there.

Really? Not to apologize for her son beating JOSIE within inches of her life?

Stepdad sure had plenty to say. He stated that Wayne had a lot on his plate for a 15 year old...found his brother hanging in a tree and almost lost 4 people in the month of October 2009. Well what story are they going with? he had issues or he didn't?

Stepdad said: Evidently Josie said something very derogatory about his brothers death? I have to ask how Treacy knew Josie was the one who sent him a derogatory message when it was reported that the ex girlfriend had been sending him text messages earlier in the day. Do we know if Josie was the one who sent the message yet?

Poor interview in my opinion. My prayers for Josie continue.

Even if she did send him some derogatory message how in the world does that justify what he is accused of doing to her?

 

[SkewedView]

On the idea that K might have sent the 'derogatory message', it doesn't make any sense given that said comment was at the tail end of an argument between Josie and him about her NOT allowing him to talk to K. In the end, doesn't make Josie a bad person if she said something rash at the end of an argument (we've all done it), especially since she didn't really know him and may not have been aware of the total situation with the brother or how the comment, whatever it was, would be taken.

Seriously, the K conspiring to get Josie killed theory is just too 'desperate housewives' and really doesn't fit the facts as we know them. I know that it is tempting to vilify this girl as much as possible, but accounts of her actions are contradictory, not very descriptive and unsourced other than the statements of a sheriff that unfortunately has already been criticized for trying these kids in the media - things are not as clear cut with K as with Treacy IMO

 

[Melly53]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/br...oday-show-deerfield-video,0,2859593.htmlstory

Based on what the lawyer said, I don't think that Treacy received ANY type of counseling following the death of his brother. Paraphrasing the lawyer: There were issues that manifested themselves beginning with the death of his brother that went unrecognized by his parents or school officials. Then later on the step-father admits that the death affected Treacy badly. If that is true then why didn't they seek help for their son?? Sadly I think this incident could have been prevented if they had gotten him some professional help. JMO

 

[kbl8201]

im sorry but this guy had to have issues before his brothers suicide.

 

[Babyslims]

I haven't commented on this story yet but have been following along. I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about the situation. Most of the time I say "fry em" for doing something like this.. But I dont know. That boy, there's just has a 'lost' look to him. Most defendants are either smiling or have a smirk and just don't look sorry at all. He's just doesn't seem to have an expression either way. Its kinda sad. Like part of him died with his brother

It scares me to death that to think this type of thing could happen to one of my girls. No parent can really say "my kid wouldnt do that" you just never know! Being a kid isn't easy. I'm not that old, I remember lol! I can kinda feel for all 3 sets of parents in this matter. I'm not sure how I'd react if my kid did something like this boy.
Due to my mother getting bailed out of any trouble she's been in and never facing any consequences I promised myself I wouldn't do that to my kid. If they do the crime they're doing the time. Well I thought that way until this case came up. Now i'm just confused.

I know some bad kids come from good parents and some good kids come from bad parents. I've tried to think of what I would of done if I was in his exact shoes at his age and I just cant sit here and say I wouldn't of done the same thing..(I mean snap).. I'd be lying if I did.
If he did not get any help when his brother commited suicide then he probably was a ticking time bomb. He needed help and i'm sure there were signs that were ignored.
Most teenagers/adults that do this type of thing I feel its useless to even try to rehabilitate but I think he might have some hope if he has some counselling,his anger issues under control and an decent amount of time in a detention center, Maybe he can finish schooling and come back out and be a productive citizen.
Now that 13 yr old girl dont look very sorry or have a blank stare. I'm quite not sure what to think about her.

Just to make it clear, I don't think what he did was okay at all far from it!I do hope she makes it through without any life long complications. Seeing her mother there in the video's' with her just is so heartwrenching I could only imagine if that was my "baby" laying there in that condition.

It's just a sad situation all around

 

[LogicalMinds]

I don't see much wrong with a 15 year old and 13 year old JMO

however...the "apology" was really creepy....what "side" of this story could wayne possibly have??

that was the stepdad....Wayne's real dad has been arrested 43 times since 1981 and has been in and out of prison and jail for years it seems

his "brother"?> Or was it half brother?? another last name ....also seemed to have some deep seated problems , killed himself over losing his wife and job they said

this whole family needed counseling IMHO...but at this point, I think Wayne needs prison, too late for counseling

The latest news on Josie sounds good but still scary to think that she may never be the 'same"....what a horror and how senseless

 

[kbl8201]

i dont feel a bit sorry for wayne, and after today, i feel his family is just as worthless as he is. apologizing to wayne's accomplice, and blaming josie for a comment she 'might' have made, as if that would excuse away what he did.

 

[Phoenixfla]

I am really sorry to post this here, but I can not seem to be able to search, and I can not find any way to send a message to an admin. If an moderator or admin reads this, can they contact me to tell me what I am doing wrong?

As for Treacy - there is no excuse for his actions. many people lose loved ones by suicide, but that does not give you the right to nearly murder someone else.