FL FL - Yessinia Suarez, 28, & 2 children, Deltona, 22 Oct 2013 #1 *L. Toledo guilty*

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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 3m3 minutes ago

Juror 108 may have overheard someone talking about the case. back in session

Juror 108 was at tag office and heard a customer ask a clerk what case was going on. The clerk told her it was the Toledo case

Juror 152 is now in here, saying that a journalist approached her outside cafe

Juror 152 said the journalist did not ask about the case and juror does not know what station the woman was from

Juror 152 said journalist asked her if she was seated in case and that's all. Juror said her long blonde hair may have covered juror badge

Juror said journalist did not give her any information about the case

Parker, the blood stain pattern analyst now back on stand, but jury has not yet returned


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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 33m33 minutes ago

"In my opinion it was a forceful bloodshed," Parker, the blood splatter expert, said referring to picture of bloodspot on door #luistoledo

Parker said the stains are cast off stains, meaning they flew off an object which was moving, or impact stains #luistoledo

Stain labeled as master closet 4 is likely a cast off stains. He said other three stains on door are cast off stains

Parker says that a stain in the master bath was most likely an impact stain from an impact site. Nappi objects to last portion is overruled

But then Parker tells Nappi they had to come from an impact site drawing an objection and an instruction from judge not to speak to Nappi

Parker going on to say some stains in bathroom are impact others are cast off

Master Bath Stain 1 shows evidence that someone may have tried to clean it or someone contacted it before it was dry

Master bath 7 is a light color which shows someone tried to clean it up or something was passed through it.

[video=twitter;918901467154731010]https://twitter.com/frankfff/status/918901467154731010[/video]

Parker now talking about two small stains at bottom of bathroom cabinet, stains 15 and 16. He said they are consistent with impact stains

Master bath 17 and 18 stains were on the floor, one oval and one nondescript, which might have been a tissue, Parker said

Will asks how many forceful blood shed events there were and Nappi objects leading to sidebar


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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 9m9 minutes ago

Will asking now how many events occurred in the home? Parker said impact stains came from at least 3 different locations #luistoledo

Cast off stains came from at least one location

Parker now testifying that stains in the bathroom came from different locations.

The stains near the bathtube were higher than cabinet stains meaning what ever was being hit was getting lower , Parker said

Court now in recess for 15 minutes


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No bloody nose. Impact and cast off stains.
 
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 42m42 minutes ago

Back in session, Nappi cross examining Parker

Nappi points out that Parker is being paid to testify

Parker is a consultant so they are typically paid to testify whether by defense or prosecution.

Nappi "You are talking about physics you are not talking about a criminal act?" Parker chuckles and agrees

Parker says he can look at each blood stain and look at the path they took.

Nappi: you are speculating those bloods stains were placed there at the same time. Parker i determined they were caused by forceful impacts

Nappi tells Parker he was speculating because he used phrases like "I believe"

Nappi says there are other ways blood can get from human body to a wall or a door, like a bloody nose. Parker says he can rule that out

Nappi. you said a stain appeared to be like tissue but you didn't test it. Parker says no but repeats explanation for his finding

Jurors looking back and forth from Nappi to Parker as if watching volleys in a tennis match

Parker was about to talk about another case to illustrate a point but Nappi stopped him

Nappi finished no redirect from state

Volusia Sheriff's Deputy Garrett Morris on stand. Morris said he was backup on Oct. 23, 2013 and also smelled strong smell of Pine-sol

Morris said he noticed what appeared to be a spot of dried blood inside the master bathroom and told investigators.

Morris also said he saw standing water in grout line in tiles in master bathroom.

Nappi now cross examinng Nappi, asking if the water was close to the tub. Morris said yes.

Nappi, it's as if someone was getting out of tub and water dripping off them. Morris says potentially

Nappi done and witness excused


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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 13m13 minutes ago

Next witness is 17-year-old girl in 12th grade and lives in Deltona, used to be a neighbor of Toledo's

She lived across from Toledo's house. Teen knew Yessenia, Michael and Thalia, although they were too young to be her friends

"I was laying on the bed and heard a woman say help me," teen says she heard that about 12:20 a.m. on OCt. 23. lived across #luistoleo

"I found a knife," teen said. That's the knife Toledo tossed out of his car when he saw deputy at his house #luistoledo


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This reporter is trying his best I'm sure but I think he's missing the word "allegedly" a lot in these tweets. I don't think it has been established that LT absolutely threw this knife out his car window has it? :waitasec:
 
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[video=twitter;918923028964216833]https://twitter.com/frankfff/status/918923028964216833[/video]

Wow...that's quite the knife. :(
 
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff now1 minute ago

Teen put knife in her book bag. Her friends also touched the knife before putting it in backpack #luistoledo

She found that deputies had closed off her street and she gave knife to deputy #luistoledo

Teen told investigators she heard screams about 12:30 but in depo with Nappi she said about midnight
 
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I've been concerned about the witnesses and the jurors in this trial considering LT's connection to the LK gang. It appears that his brother is also concerned...well for his own safety at least and that of his family.



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-luis-toledo-trial-1004-story.html


I wonder if he will show up?

Toledo went to his brother's house that night (of the murders). He must have known he'd be subpoenaed so why the fear now? I wonder if he's been threatened? Sounds like it. Doubt he'll flee but ya never know.
 
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 13m13 minutes ago

Next witness is 17-year-old girl in 12th grade and lives in Deltona, used to be a neighbor of Toledo's

She lived across from Toledo's house. Teen knew Yessenia, Michael and Thalia, although they were too young to be her friends

"I was laying on the bed and heard a woman say help me," teen says she heard that about 12:20 a.m. on OCt. 23. lived across #luistoleo

"I found a knife," teen said. That's the knife Toledo tossed out of his car when he saw deputy at his house #luistoledo


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This reporter is trying his best I'm sure but I think he's missing the word "allegedly" a lot in these tweets. I don't think it has been established that LT absolutely threw this knife out his car window has it? :waitasec:

No, it hasn't.
 
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff now14 seconds ago

Teens 14 year old sister now on stand, said she also heard someone yell "help me" 2 to 3 times around midnight. #luistoledo

She said it sounded like a teen screaming #luistoledo

Nappi asked her if she heard anything else like car squealing away . She said no


Note: Both teens were not shown on court camera.
 
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff now1 minute ago

Zambrano is going to adjourne early today because next witness will be lengthy #luistoledo
 
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Toledo went to his brother's house that night (of the murders). He must have known he'd be subpoenaed so why the fear now? I wonder if he's been threatened? Sounds like it. Doubt he'll flee but ya never know.

I'm wondering why he thinks his kids are in danger? Are the Latin Kings known for killing people's kids for retaliation? Never really thought that any gang would approve of the deliberate killing of innocent children. Pretty sure they weren't too pleased with this statement from LT's brother which puts them in such a bad light.

Hopefully they've written off both of them and are quite happy to see LT get prosecuted for allegedly killing his wife and two children. The Latin Kings should be encouraging LT's brother to get up on that stand and tell the whole truth about what he saw and was told that night.

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Kamille, Toledo apparently had no fears a few years back when he testified against another high ranking Latin King so I don't understand the brother.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/n...utor-deltonas-luis-toledo-once-top-latin-king

I think the brother just doesn't want to testify against LT and probably also doesn't want him to know what he told LE 4 years ago when all this was going down. If he's not there to testify, he probably figures they also won't be able to use his interview and/or deposition. If I recall he did say some things back then about LT's demeanor when he showed up at his house in the middle of the night asking for help.

He probably thinks if he uses his kid's safety as the reason why he shouldn't have to testify, the judge will take pity on him. It appears he was mistaken. :D

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Teen neighbors of Luis Toledo testify they heard yells for help the night of disappearances

ST. AUGUSTINE — Two teenage sisters who lived across the street from Luis Toledo’s home testified they heard screams the night he is accused of killing his wife and her two children.

One of the girls later found a menacing-looking knife with a serrated blade and brass-knuckles on the handle tossed in some grass near a pond in the neighborhood. Toledo had tossed the knife out of his car when he spotted a deputy at his house as he drove home.

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The now 17-year-old girl was the first of the two sisters to take the stand in the trial against Toledo. The girls lived across the street from Toledo. The teen, who appeared nervous as everyone in the courtroom watched her, said she and her sister were in their bedroom on Oct. 23, 2013. She said she had been half asleep until she heard the sounds about 12:30 a.m.

“I was laying in bed and I heard a woman saying, ‘Help me,’ so I turned to my sister and asked her if she heard that. She said, ‘Yes,’ ” the teen testified.

She said she looked out her bedroom window, which faced the street, but saw nothing. She said the sound was coming from the street or across the street.

[...]

Next up was her now 14-year-old sister.

“We were in my room. I was wide awake and I heard a girl yell, ‘Help me’ two to three times at max. And it was pretty clear and loud. It sounded like it was coming from the front of the house,” the 14-year-old said.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/n...-heard-yells-for-help-night-of-disappearances
 
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I've been concerned about the witnesses and the jurors in this trial considering LT's connection to the LK gang. It appears that his brother is also concerned...well for his own safety at least and that of his family.



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-luis-toledo-trial-1004-story.html


I wonder if he will show up?

The whole article was summed up to me when he said "sleep mode". The dude is in danger. He needs to request relocation. A "sleeper" is a once high ranking gang member who has been excused to move on, but if dirt around him is disturbed....


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