FL FL - Yessinia Suarez, 28, & 2 children, Deltona, 22 Oct 2013 #1 *L. Toledo guilty*

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sreshowtime said:
I seriously don't get the' lemme get the neighbor help take the car' deal. It's like he could have drove the car off any ole where and walked back. Or left the car with the bodies and walked or called a bud for a ride.
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Im wondering if he maybe was going to kill his neighbor too, and leave him at the wheel of the wife's vehicle to try to set him up as the one that killed his wife and kids. To make it look like an affair gone wrong, and a murder suicide. Maybe he was originally heading to where he left his wife + kids area and was going to put them all in the 1 car.
Maybe as he drove he decided that is a stupid idea and then just went with the dumping of the vehicle.

Something does seem really strange about him using the neighbor. Heck, he could have took a cab would have been less suspicious.
 
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Hatfield said:
Im wondering if he maybe was going to kill his neighbor too, and leave him at the wheel of the wife's vehicle to try to set him up as the one that killed his wife and kids. To make it look like an affair gone wrong, and a murder suicide. Maybe he was originally heading to where he left his wife + kids area and was going to put them all in the 1 car.
Maybe as he drove he decided that is a stupid idea and then just went with the dumping of the vehicle.

Something does seem really strange about him using the neighbor. Heck, he could have took a cab would have been less suspicious.
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IMO he was desperate at that point. Unless, of course, he'd thought of pinning it on the neighbor. But, suppose he was desperate and thought that the neighbor would give him an alibi of some sort? "Oh, he was with me. Wife ran off in the middle of the night with the coworker after they fought and he asked me to help him drop her car off near her work."

But that doesn't explain him telling the neighbor that he just snapped. Unless he used the excuse that he snapped when they fought and she ran off with the kids. And it doesn't explain why he felt comfortable enough that he dumped evidence while the neighbor was with him. Perhaps he did think of pinning something on the neighbor and for all we know he implicated that neighbor in the disappearance of the children rather than someone else. After all, the neighbor helped him even to the point of being with him to dump evidence.

I dunno...we'll find out, I guess. But it really could be this neighbor is more involved in this. He might have run to the police in order to not be charged himself. Bizarre about the neighbor, imo.

JMO
 
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They found a body not far from where Michelle Parker disappeared in Orlando! No word on details yet.
 
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What'sThatClue said:
IMO he was desperate at that point. Unless, of course, he'd thought of pinning it on the neighbor. But, suppose he was desperate and thought that the neighbor would give him an alibi of some sort? "Oh, he was with me. Wife ran off in the middle of the night with the coworker after they fought and he asked me to help him drop her car off near her work."

But that doesn't explain him telling the neighbor that he just snapped. Unless he used the excuse that he snapped when they fought and she ran off with the kids. And it doesn't explain why he felt comfortable enough that he dumped evidence while the neighbor was with him. Perhaps he did think of pinning something on the neighbor and for all we know he implicated that neighbor in the disappearance of the children rather than someone else. After all, the neighbor helped him even to the point of being with him to dump evidence.

I dunno...we'll find out, I guess. But it really could be this neighbor is more involved in this. He might have run to the police in order to not be charged himself. Bizarre about the neighbor, imo.

JMO
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Good Points.

You are right that we don't know what he had discussed with the neighbor who was stated as a close friend in a news article I believe. Just like he tried to enlist help with the brother, there may be more too it.

I do suspect this guy was trying to use others to shift the blame to. One of the news articles is already saying that sort of thing.

When someone just killed a bunch of people, they are very dangerous because they have nothing more to lose.
 
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CluelessWonder said:
They found a body not far from where Michelle Parker disappeared in Orlando! No word on details yet.
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My goodness. Im kind of following a few of the WS cases as most of us probably do here at WS, and bodies are turning up everywhere lately.
In Bryce case, another body just turned up the other day.

This is crazy and so sad. This is so depressing that life is so cheap to some people.

Even in my local city when I moved back, I am depressed listening to the news where literally every night there is a shooting. It was never like that about 15 years ago, but now people in my city dont even blink an eye when they hear on the news about another shooting.

In my city, Ive had a theory that gang violence and random gang shootings are a big part of it where I am guessing that when a gang member shoots someone, it is like getting bonus points for the gang member. We have had so many random drive-bys and senseless shootings, I have to think that it is just like those movies where they show someone getting "points" for killing someone.

Not all shootings are gang related of course, but at least in my city, there are a lot that are gang related. The people have no remorse and the shootings are random a lot of times, it is so senseless.

If my theory is correct about more status in the gang if they shoot someone, then I think a whole new approach for LE is needed. They need to somehow change the culture of the gangs to make it where not shooting someone gives them more status. Its a tough problem to tackle, but IMO that would help tremendously if we could accomplish that. They need something else that would give them status besides shooting people.
 
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The family needs help searching over the weekend, if any locals can help. They meet each day at the Spanish Deltona Seventh Day Adventist Church on Debary Ave, just up from Publix a couple blocks. Usually they meet around noon-1pm but I imagine further announcements will be made over the weekend if that time changes (say if they meet earlier on Sat). My link above also specifies the Church they are meeting at.

JMO
 
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Another day and they still haven't been found...sad
 
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Note: The family search tomorrow will meet at the Spanish Deltona Seventh Day Adventist Church parking lot at 11:00am.

I was told that the search on Saturday will be after Church (they hold church services on Saturday) and will probably meet at Gemini Springs Parking lot. This will be announced in MSM, of course.

Please note: I am a local only, not a verified insider, and I am helping with the family search. I can only give general information from my opinion only.

But I did meet at the search site this morning with YS's stepfather and other relatives and they are wonderful people. Absolutely wonderful. I met with her mother and others tonight and they are wonderful too. It's such an outrage that this happened to them, their daughter and grandchildren. I could not search the woods due to my health problems but I helped in other ways.

Locals, please join the search if you can. Thanks. They don't stay at the church but gather, decide or announce search areas and then go. So if you come later they might not be there. I did ask the family tonight to organize some sort of command center, even if it's just one person, so they can direct late-comers to teams out on the ground. I don't know if they'll do that.

Thanks and all JMO MOO
 
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He is a coward! (I wish I could add a few hyphenated adjectives there.)

Thanks to everyone updating this sad thread. Huge thanks to What'sThatClue for volunteering with the family & being our special insider.
 
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noZme said:
He is a coward! (I wish I could add a few hyphenated adjectives there.)

Thanks to everyone updating this sad thread. Huge thanks to What'sThatClue for volunteering with the family & being our special insider.
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Ty, ty. :) But I am not a verified insider, just a local posting my own observations. Everything I post is JMO unless I have provided a link. :)
 
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Another article about the search with an interesting comment about where the family was searching....

The family selected a site about 6 miles from home with brush and woods as far as the eye can see. But it has a white stone and sand road that a vehicle could pass through.

They heard white rock powder was on the tires of the vehicle Toledo drove.

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/central-fl...22750742/-/wooicuz/-/index.html#ixzz2jSFddYe6

Time to look at the maps and find white gravel roads.
 
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don't know what to think about white gravel...I do notice a whitish dusting on my car the times I take off down unpaved roads around here....

(who mentioned Lyonia? on Providence???)

^It doesn't look accessible BUT to the east of Providence is Adelia Blvd, runs N/S from Elkcam and Howland
pavement ends here 28.920410, -81.215479
behind Deltona Lakes Elementary school

and then pavement picks back up here 28.934371, -81.215221

this is over east of Daytona State College Deltona campus

which holy guacamole! has a BARBERING school
http://www.daytonastate.edu/CampusDirectory/DeptInfo.aspx?dept=TCC

West of Dupont Lake

okay this is CREEPY

there are places like this along in there
28.934555, -81.215342

I am sorry I can't screen shot to save my life or post pics on here
gonna check out google earth

OH it is 5 miles 12 minutes...
 
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