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I wonder if she went on her own after she didn't get an answer to the text she sent in a different language at 2:39 and he didn't answer the phone when she called minutes later at 2:42 and 2:52?
Yes, that can happen, but it is very unusual to walk 20 minutes in FL heat just because your friend is not answering.
 
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Yes, that can happen, but it is very unusual to walk 20 minutes in FL heat just because your friend is not answering.
Yes, normally I would wholeheartedly agree and I'm not sure if you're here or not but the weather has been beautiful, much lower humidity than normal, breezy, everyone's doing outdoor things before the humidity comes back. Also, she had an umbrella to block the sun.

In the list of who was texting who and who was calling who I didn't see a text or call come in from HA's number to DB UNLESS the text ZL sent earlier to NB was really HA on ZL's phone. Maybe she became suspicious and that's why she texted ZL back in a language they would understand but HA wouldn't. She got no answer, she called no answer, called again no answer and started to worry and decided to go over there.

I don't know that that's what happened but it seems possible. Why would she have texted him in their native language? Anyway this is all JMO, MOO. Could be something else entirely happened.
 
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Yes, normally I would wholeheartedly agree and I'm not sure if you're here or not but the weather has been beautiful, much lower humidity than normal, breezy, everyone's doing outdoor things before the humidity comes back. Also, she had an umbrella to block the sun.

In the list of who was texting who and who was calling who I didn't see a text or call come in from HA's number to DB UNLESS the text ZL sent earlier to NB was really HA on ZL's phone. Maybe she became suspicious and that's why she texted ZL back in a language they would understand but HA wouldn't. She got no answer, she called no answer, called again no answer and started to worry and decided to go over there.

I don't know that that's what happened but it seems possible. Why would she have texted him in their native language? Anyway this is all JMO, MOO. Could be something else entirely happened.
That is a real possibility. I hope that HA would at least reveal everything in court. It also show that NB was probably aware of the violent nature of HA, which made her worried.

I can't shake off the thought that had this lady just put her phone to silence for that two hours, she would have live today. Such an ill fate.
 
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That is a real possibility. I hope that HA would at least reveal everything in court. It also show that NB was probably aware of the violent nature of HA, which made her worried.

I can't shake off the thought that had this lady just put her phone to silence for that two hours, she would have live today. Such an ill fate.
According to his brother he was aware, and reported it. How sad and frustrating 😢:

According to Limon’s brother, the victim was not close to Abugharbieh but had made others aware of the suspect’s behavior before his death.
This included the Avalon Heights off-campus student housing center, where Limon and Abugharbieh lived with another roommate.

“He barely [knew] Hisham Abugharbieh, but he always informed us that his roommate is kind of unsocial, unpleasant and sort of psychopathic behavior, and he and another roommate, Indian roommate, Rashid filed a complaint against him,” Ahmed said. “It’s very unfortunate or unbelievable that Avalon Heights didn’t consider it seriously or took necessary steps.”


 
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And new information about what prompted the DV call the morning he was arrested. I didn't expect this to be the reason ugh


Sickening. If only he'd been in a facility much sooner, there wouldn't be these victims. The younger relative in this link could be permanently traumatized from this incident -- yet another victim.
 

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