Florida Bar Allegedly Prepares Case against Baez

[ynotdivein]

Thanks Novice Seeker
1) Small Claims Court Order 2000....was that $837.62 that Small Claims Court Ordered he pay the plaintiff Sir Speedy Printing

2)Thanks for posting that one again...I know it's on WS somewhere.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/68212901/FLORIDA-BOARD-OF-BAR-EXAMINERS-RE-Jose-Baez

The above link IMO is a must read

June 29, 2000 JAB asked the the Supreme Court to review the recommendations of the Florida Board of Bar Examiners of Sept 1998 that he not be admitted to the Florida Bar
After Review the Supreme Court approved the Board's recommendation that JAB NOT be admitted to the Florida Bar

May 1997 JAB filed an application for admission to the Florida Bar

Sept 1998 the Florida Bar recommended that JAB NOT be admitted to the Florida Bar...
Why: paraphrasing...

FAILure comply with court ordered child support for his daughter.
FAILure to maintain Health and Life insurance for his daughter as ordered by the court
DEFAULT JUDGMENT entered against him which was still unsatisfied as of April 1998
WORTHLESS CHECK in May 1994 and attended a diversion program to AVOID Criminal Prosecution
DEFAULTED on a student loan in January 1995 (debt satisfied January 2006)
UNNECESSARY AND INORDINATE EXPENSE by voluntarily participating in a foreign study program in the summer of 1995
DELINQUENT in the payment of a health club membership that begun in October 1995 and as of Dec 1997 owed $850
Did not maintain a checking account (1995-August 1997)due to past problems with writing worthless checks
FAILure maintain proper records for his current checking account, opened August 1997, as evidenced by a negative balance in October 1997
EXTRAVAGANT expense for transportation by currently leasing a Mazda Miata for $340 per month.

An answer on JAB's Law School application, he FAILED to disclose a 1989 charge of simple assault and a 1994 charge of passing worthless checks, was false and misleading

The Board found that JAB's misrepresentations and lack of candor in his answer to the specifications and during his formal hearing testimony were further grounds for disqualification.
Despite being practicing attorneys, none of JAB's witnesses offered any written documentation , and their credibility was diminished by their equivocating and uncertain recollection of material matters

:clap: This post should be a stickie!!! :clap:

 

[The World According]

Thanks Novice Seeker
1) Small Claims Court Order 2000....was that $837.62 that Small Claims Court Ordered he pay the plaintiff Sir Speedy Printing

2)Thanks for posting that one again...I know it's on WS somewhere.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/68212901/FLORIDA-BOARD-OF-BAR-EXAMINERS-RE-Jose-Baez

The above link IMO is a must read

June 29, 2000 JAB asked the the Supreme Court to review the recommendations of the Florida Board of Bar Examiners of Sept 1998 that he not be admitted to the Florida Bar
After Review the Supreme Court approved the Board's recommendation that JAB NOT be admitted to the Florida Bar

May 1997 JAB filed an application for admission to the Florida Bar

Sept 1998 the Florida Bar recommended that JAB NOT be admitted to the Florida Bar...
Why: paraphrasing...

FAILure comply with court ordered child support for his daughter.
FAILure to maintain Health and Life insurance for his daughter as ordered by the court
DEFAULT JUDGMENT entered against him which was still unsatisfied as of April 1998
WORTHLESS CHECK in May 1994 and attended a diversion program to AVOID Criminal Prosecution
DEFAULTED on a student loan in January 1995 (debt satisfied January 2006)
UNNECESSARY AND INORDINATE EXPENSE by voluntarily participating in a foreign study program in the summer of 1995
DELINQUENT in the payment of a health club membership that begun in October 1995 and as of Dec 1997 owed $850
Did not maintain a checking account (1995-August 1997)due to past problems with writing worthless checks
FAILure maintain proper records for his current checking account, opened August 1997, as evidenced by a negative balance in October 1997
EXTRAVAGANT expense for transportation by currently leasing a Mazda Miata for $340 per month.

An answer on JAB's Law School application, he FAILED to disclose a 1989 charge of simple assault and a 1994 charge of passing worthless checks, was false and misleading

The Board found that JAB's misrepresentations and lack of candor in his answer to the specifications and during his formal hearing testimony were further grounds for disqualification.
Despite being practicing attorneys, none of JAB's witnesses offered any written documentation , and their credibility was diminished by their equivocating and uncertain recollection of material matters

OMG....sounds like the kind of guy a parent warns their daughters about! WOW! The best predictor, the very best predictor of someone's future behavior is their past behavior. He lost me at failure to pay child support.

 

[nums24]

slightly o/t but at tomorrow's hearing will HHJP hear any of those motions that were filed by the defense regarding the extension of time? It's too quiet on that front!

And as far as Casey being there. Do you think she'll be made to show up tomorrow, if they in fact plan to talk about anything other then the status hearing?

To make this post not o/t. I hope these latest allegations have Baez slinking in behind the desk and keeping his trap shut the entire time.

Per the Ninth Circuit Twitter, ICA will not be in court, no motions will be heard:

http://twitter.com/#!/NinthCircuitFL

 

[Novice Seeker]

Going to repeat myself because there is still a lot of confusion about BC. the phrase 'in possession of records' came not from any deposition or court hearing, but from K. Belich when she interviewed B. Shaffer. Because she used the phrase in possession of records, B. Shaffer answered using the same phrase. K. Belich misread or misunderstood BC's deposition, where he said that JB stated BC was AWARE of TES records.

I figured this was going to happen as soon as I heard her ask the question and heard B. Shaffer's reply.

Thanks to all the posters who have been pointing this all out. We can hope that K. Belich steps up and admits her mistake.

I'm not confused at all about what BC had in his possession. In the interview LE had with BC:



CE: references letter Baez sent to BC April 7th, "As you know we are in urgent need of the items discussed in our previous requests" Um..what items?

BC: Those....

CE: Is...is...above and beyond looking for names are you asked to recover anything?

BC: No, desktop and laptops

CE: Oh, okay

BC: ....from the Anthony family.

CE: Alright.

SA: Did he indicate why they were in urgent need? Did you have a conversation with him?

BC: No and I didn't intend to turn them over anyway. Because I didn't know why he would want, want their, their computers at this late date. You know now we're you know way into the case and he's wanting stuff that's already been examined.

My opinion after reading the interview several times and viewing the LKL episode where BC states the "diary" was in his possession that BC has several items in his possession. The question is why?


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[kaRN]

It's too quiet today. My spidy senses are tingling

 

[faefrost]

I'm not confused at all about what BC had in his possession. In the interview LE had with BC:



CE: references letter Baez sent to BC April 7th, "As you know we are in urgent need of the items discussed in our previous requests" Um..what items?

BC: Those....

CE: Is...is...above and beyond looking for names are you asked to recover anything?

BC: No, desktop and laptops

CE: Oh, okay

BC: ....from the Anthony family.

CE: Alright.

SA: Did he indicate why they were in urgent need? Did you have a conversation with him?

BC: No and I didn't intend to turn them over anyway. Because I didn't know why he would want, want their, their computers at this late date. You know now we're you know way into the case and he's wanting stuff that's already been examined.

My opinion after reading the interview several times and viewing the LKL episode where BC states the "diary" was in his possession that BC has several items in his possession. The question is why?


Novice Seeker

I honestly think that was just a blanket attempt to grab everything in order to prevent anything else from being found or overly analyzed, much the way the heart stickers were. I think JB is affraid more of what he doesn't know. What else did KC leave in that house that no one has realized yet? What else might a stray e-mail or IM chain lead to? He wants it all under his control so it will never be seen or heard of again. I don't think he is necessarily fishing for a specific item or document at that point. It can just as easily be more of his controlling clumsy approach to things. Keep everything under wraps where n one else can see it, including his client, and rules of discovery be damned.

 

[chefmom]

Does anyone remember the dates that LE had to require that the A's turn over something, I believe it was their laptops, and BC had to get them and take them in because the A's were refusing? Something along these lines? I am just wondering if this could have fallen in with the timeline that LE were conducting their investigation into the tampering and were trying to see if there were e-mails to LB and JB concerning the search forms on the A's computer at that point. I will look and see, but I really stink at the search functions on here. TIA if anyone else can help me with it.

 

[The World According]

Cheney Mason, for the love of GOD, take your forty years of experience and step up, officially you are first chair.....act like it. If you are in, be in big and take over. Someone has GOT TO!!! Watching Mrs. Finnel that fist time in a hearing, it seemed to be what she was thinking. I don't want to hear one more word out of Jose at the podium.
In the words of Richard Horsby, "He is a clown. He has become a legal clown."

This is a death penalty trial, step up Mr. Mason and be the dp qualified expert you were brought on to be. Bench Jose, effectively if he cannot literally be removed. This, imo, isn't even a close call.

Didn't the defense or reporters do some sort of survey months ago about the question of does Jose's notoriety precede him and will it affect the jurors?

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

The below document is the August 9, 2010 motion filed with the courts Re: TES

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581279/detail.html


That entire document is full of misrepresentations...


CA's email to MN
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581702/detail.html

See how much CA's email to MN matches the motion for August 9, 2010

She is so transparent and she is the one who started this mess at the request or suggestion of Baez...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[LolaMoon08]

I agree. It's time for CM to put his little baby in the corner. I know a lot of people don't like CM, but I don't mind him as much? I find him to be funny sometimes. He's just an old man, set in his ways, and I think he is in a transitional phase in his life where he knows that he is going to have to hang it up soon. It seems to me that he struggles with this because he obviously loves what he does (loves the challenge) and he has been very good at what he does. He can be snippy and sometimes out-right-rude... but he also has a Southern charm about him... which is my weakness. Judge Perry has that Southern charm too :rocker:

I know this sounds weird, but if I feel I can sit down at a bar, have a drink with you, and have a good time... you're my type of person. I think I would enjoy CM's company.

Jose has no right being up their "playing the role" of first chair. I do hope that once this trial starts, that CM takes over most questioning. I think if JB is going to do most questioning, it could very well be the deciding factor in whether Casey gets LWOP and the DP. If a jury sees Casey enjoying JB's antics and she is not taking this trial seriously... a jury is going to be more inclined to give her the DP. If she sees them snickering, rolling their eyes, playing pen games, etc... a jury is going to give her the DP. They're like the two little kids in elementary school who are always in trouble for their antics and have to be seperated.

I do hope that Casey has a good coach. She is going to need some serious lessons on how to really cry. Poking at your eyes and looking at your tissue hoping to see just a single tear, or smudge of the mascara, is not going to work. She did get the whole, make your face look red, act down. Wonder if she is holding her breath? That usually works and is not that hard to do.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Does anyone remember the dates that LE had to require that the A's turn over something, I believe it was their laptops, and BC had to get them and take them in because the A's were refusing? Something along these lines? I am just wondering if this could have fallen in with the timeline that LE were conducting their investigation into the tampering and were trying to see if there were e-mails to LB and JB concerning the search forms on the A's computer at that point. I will look and see, but I really stink at the search functions on here. TIA if anyone else can help me with it.

RAW VIDEO: Anthonys' Attorney Before, After Meeting With Judge
Friday morning the Anthonys' attorney, Brad Conway, hand-delivered what could be evidence in the case against Casey. (07/24/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/20166417/index.html

Judge Stan Strickland had scheduled the hearing for 1:30pm. Judge Strickland wanted to know why he shouldn't hold the Anthonys in contempt of court because the State Attorney's Office requested information stored on the family's computer earlier this month, but it was never turned over.

Friday morning, Conway hand-delivered what could be evidence in the case against Casey.

"Why is it taking so long for these documents to be turned over the attorney's office?" WFTV reporter Mark Boyle asked.

"There's not an issue there. Just sometimes it takes time to get things together," Conway replied.

However, Conway blamed the Anthonys' broken computer.

"Whose computer were the documents stored on?" Boyle asked.

"Mark, I'm not going to comment on that right now," Conway replied.

Conway would not give any details about what was in the documents. The public will not find out what's in them until the prosecution makes it part of the public record.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20205386/detail.html

 

[doogiesgirl]

Please forgive a stupid question but I've been away from the board for a long time.

What did CA want BC to lie about for her?

TIA!

 

[logicalgirl]

Per the Ninth Circuit Twitter, ICA will not be in court, no motions will be heard:

http://twitter.com/#!/NinthCircuitFL

There is so much going on in this case outside of court I have lost track of what WILL be discussed at this upcoming status meeting that ICA apparently will not attend.

So this is just about whether or not both sides are meeting their deadlines? What about Baez's request for that lengthy extension? Cause if they are just doing their usual blabbing back and forth without accomplishing anything, I'm not going to book the time off to watch it - it can wait until what is "my evening".:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[Chiquita71]

The below document is the August 9, 2010 motion filed with the courts Re: TES

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581279/detail.html


That entire document is full of misrepresentations...


CA's email to MN
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581702/detail.html

See how much CA's email to MN matches the motion for August 9, 2010

She is so transparent and she is the one who started this mess at the request or suggestion of Baez...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

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BBM

IIRC, there was conversation to that effect in the threads. I remember it being said about something that was in a motion sounded like a email Cindy had sent. I could have never remembered who I was talking about but I remember that being talked about.

I posted in the LB thread about this but it fits here too with what I am saying(with regard to the possibility that I don't know a wit of what I speak)but I can see LB telling Cindy the same thing she was contacting Jose for. This would have been something that would have(potentially)could have caused Jose and Cindy to have to collaborate (even) reluctantly. If Jose knew that Cindy knew what LB claimed and claimed to have as proof: they would have discussed this? At any rate, I can see Cindy getting on the horn to Jose about this. Why wouldn't she, she called LE with every single tip and non tip. (Back in reality)Cindy had to have known by a certain point that Casey had something to do with it but she really wanted that hope that someone else also had something to do with it-that way there was someone to blame for Casey's downfall besides Cindy.

Maybe this is Cindy's "firm" statement that Casey had to have had help. Maybe she made that statement "knowing" that LB had "proof" that Caylee's remains were not in the woods when TES searched the area. And, that (could)be probable doubt-or whatever they wanted it to be. Cindy was willing to let LB say what she was saying, why would Cindy think it was hinky? She wouldn't, she would hang her star on LB and her proof.

I only feel so bold as to speculate on this because of the LB story being out in the open, so that part is fact. Then, I have no doubt that LB contacted Cindy Anthony-and my speculation goes on from there.

ETA: Maybe that is why Cindy wrote such nice things about Jose in her letters to Casey?

:websleuther:

 

[nums24]

There is so much going on in this case outside of court I have lost track of what WILL be discussed at this upcoming status meeting that ICA apparently will not attend.

So this is just about whether or not both sides are meeting their deadlines? What about Baez's request for that lengthy extension? Cause if they are just doing their usual blabbing back and forth without accomplishing anything, I'm not going to book the time off to watch it - it can wait until what is "my evening".:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Yes, it's just a status hearing. With that said, JB requesting an extension will probably be brought up.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Yes, it's just a status hearing. With that said, JB requesting an extension will probably be brought up.

It has to come up, right? It's a status hearing. JB's status is, again, that he needs more time after Judge Perry told him that 30 days was too much, he asks for 45 more days.

I really want to know what this "unique opportunity" is? Yes, I know that we have pretty much figured it out, but I just would like JB to have to answer to that.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Do we even know if the bar complaint has anything to do with BC or the tampering charges. Could it be related to funds and JAC as JP alluded to - or warned of?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-jose-baez-bar-complaint-20110202,0,3961011,full.story

Seems to me that we are really speculating what the complaint pertains to - unless I missed where the bar said what it was!

(I do seem to remember hearing JB mouth off about BC having two boxes of docs in his office during court one day -- uggggggg. Real or learned memory?)

 

[The World According]

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BBM

IIRC, there was conversation to that effect in the threads. I remember it being said about something that was in a motion sounded like a email Cindy had sent. I could have never remembered who I was talking about but I remember that being talked about.

I posted in the LB thread about this but it fits here too with what I am saying(with regard to the possibility that I don't know a wit of what I speak)but I can see LB telling Cindy the same thing she was contacting Jose for. This would have been something that would have(potentially)could have caused Jose and Cindy to have to collaborate (even) reluctantly. If Jose knew that Cindy knew what LB claimed and claimed to have as proof: they would have discussed this? At any rate, I can see Cindy getting on the horn to Jose about this. Why wouldn't she, she called LE with every single tip and non tip. (Back in reality)Cindy had to have known by a certain point that Casey had something to do with it but she really wanted that hope that someone else also had something to do with it-that way there was someone to blame for Casey's downfall besides Cindy.

Maybe this is Cindy's "firm" statement that Casey had to have had help. Maybe she made that statement "knowing" that LB had "proof" that Caylee's remains were not in the woods when TES searched the area. And, that (could)be probable doubt-or whatever they wanted it to be. Cindy was willing to let LB say what she was saying, why would Cindy think it was hinky? She wouldn't, she would hang her star on LB and her proof.

I only feel so bold as to speculate on this because of the LB story being out in the open, so that part is fact. Then, I have no doubt that LB contacted Cindy Anthony-and my speculation goes on from there.

ETA: Maybe that is why Cindy wrote such nice things about Jose in her letters to Casey?

:websleuther:

Good news friend, the investigation is ongoing!

O/T Much like Casey putting Robin up to writing to Cindy to tell her how hurt and anguished Casey was over certain things and she really needed the support of her mother, you can bet your life every single thing Cindy wrote in her letters was designed to manipulate. IMO Casey is simply Cindy Jr., in stripper boots.

Once Cindy tried to pin this on Jesse, I knew I would put nothing past her. Could she have manipulated or played along with a Laura type? All day long, imo.

 

[The World According]

Do we even know if the bar complaint has anything to do with BC or the tampering charges. Could it be related to funds and JAC as JP alluded to - or warned of?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-jose-baez-bar-complaint-20110202,0,3961011,full.story

Seems to me that we are really speculating what the complaint pertains to - unless I missed where the bar said what it was!

(I do seem to remember hearing JB mouth off about BC having two boxes of docs in his office during court one day -- uggggggg. Real or learned memory?)

TOTALLY GUESSING. WE HAVE NO IDEA. It could be a thorough blogger decided to mail a letter with a few WS thread attachments.:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

No way I could have guessed that last time it was Judge Strickland!! WOW!!!

 

[Novice Seeker]

I honestly think that was just a blanket attempt to grab everything in order to prevent anything else from being found or overly analyzed, much the way the heart stickers were. I think JB is affraid more of what he doesn't know. What else did KC leave in that house that no one has realized yet? What else might a stray e-mail or IM chain lead to? He wants it all under his control so it will never be seen or heard of again. I don't think he is necessarily fishing for a specific item or document at that point. It can just as easily be more of his controlling clumsy approach to things. Keep everything under wraps where n one else can see it, including his client, and rules of discovery be damned.

Good point. IIRC during Cindys deposition with the State she was asked about something. Cindy attempted to answer the question several times while Baez interrupted her. At one point JB tells Cindy to shut up(or something like)


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