Florida Bar Allegedly Prepares Case against Baez

[AZlawyer]

Mort was a value added AL brought to the case so she must have left that forest with really dirty hands then because if this was a case of some nutjob coming forward then retracting their statement, you`d think it would inspire an àngel of death to try harder, not cut loose. JMO

Angel of Death Row you must have meant lol. :floorlaugh:

 

[Macushla]

I'm planning to go anyway....are you going to be there too?

Not this time. Oops just noticed what time it is, you won't read this till you get back, will you?

 

[faefrost]

We keep going around that the root of the problem with this is JB. But I am starting to wonder. granted he is a huge part of the ethical problem. he literally has none.

BUT

- AL was in the woods doing walkabouts with LB and Mort. She was there. She was pointing stuff out. She certainly should have flagged immediately that this was not on the up and up.

- CM was a huge part of that sideshow visit to MN's offices to view the records. Knowing what we know now, what was the purpose of that trip? And wasn't CM the one that raised the big stink? If they were there trying to surreptitiously determine of there were more LB records or even worse slip in the fake one, then he had to be a part of it at that point? Wouldn't he?

It's like all of these well known and respectable lawyers seem to cross over to the dark side when they pair up with JB? Go team?

PS I noticed we didn't see AF at todays hearing? Did we ever know if she had a reason? Or is she doing the intelligent thing and trying not to be seen in public with her co-council? I really hope she isn't heading for the hills, as she seems to be the only ethical competant player on KC's team that maintains the respect of both the Judge and the Opposing council.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Jose Baez refused to talk to reporters after Casey Anthony hearingFebruary 04, 2011|By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando SentinelAfter a long status conference dealing with scheduling and missed deadlines in the Casey Anthony case, defense attorney Jose Baez left the courtroom Friday, refusing to answer reporters' questions.

Those include inquiries on whether Baez lied about or misrepresented former George and Cindy Anthony attorney Brad Conway.

"Mr. Baez did not lie to anybody and you are a pain …," Baez's co-counsel Cheney Mason told a WFTV reporter during a combative exchange outside the courtroom Friday. At one point, Mason summoned a court deputy to escort the legal team.

The defense team would not answer questions directly related to the case either. Mason grumbled about media coverage being unfair and unbalanced.

Though Baez refused reporters' questions, he took a moment outside the courthouse to pose for a picture with a female admirer.

Friday's hearing was the first since it was learned earlier this week that Baez has a new ethics complaint filed against him with The Florida Bar. Previous complaints have been unfounded.

more
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...204_1_cindy-anthony-casey-anthony-brad-conway


So Baez has learned, "no comment", finally. This is what he should have done from the second his client was arrested. I also see the new ethics complaint has been "unfounded"....so I wonder how the Florida Bar investigated this claim? How can they rule so quick?

Seems he is the teflon defense king, no complaints stick...sickening that he can continue to get away with his unethical, practically criminal acts of lying, witness/evidence tampering...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[Sparky]

Jose Baez refused to talk to reporters after Casey Anthony hearingFebruary 04, 2011|By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando SentinelAfter a long status conference dealing with scheduling and missed deadlines in the Casey Anthony case, defense attorney Jose Baez left the courtroom Friday, refusing to answer reporters' questions.

Those include inquiries on whether Baez lied about or misrepresented former George and Cindy Anthony attorney Brad Conway.

"Mr. Baez did not lie to anybody and you are a pain …," Baez's co-counsel Cheney Mason told a WFTV reporter during a combative exchange outside the courtroom Friday. At one point, Mason summoned a court deputy to escort the legal team.

The defense team would not answer questions directly related to the case either. Mason grumbled about media coverage being unfair and unbalanced.

Though Baez refused reporters' questions, he took a moment outside the courthouse to pose for a picture with a female admirer.

Friday's hearing was the first since it was learned earlier this week that Baez has a new ethics complaint filed against him with The Florida Bar. Previous complaints have been unfounded.

more
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...204_1_cindy-anthony-casey-anthony-brad-conway


So Baez has learned, "no comment", finally. This is what he should have done from the second his client was arrested. I also see the new ethics complaint has been "unfounded"....so I wonder how the Florida Bar investigated this claim? How can they rule so quick?

Seems he is the teflon defense king, no complaints stick...sickening that he can continue to get away with his unethical, practically criminal acts of lying, witness/evidence tampering...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

I think the article says previous complaints have been unfounded. I think the new one is still on going. Unless I missed something.

 

[iluvmua]

I hope this self serving *beep* looses his right to practice law.

I bet Cindy & George will blame JB for the downfall of Casey.

 

[ZsaZsa]

It seems JB has managed to evade any serious penalties so far- the complaints have been 'unfounded' according to the Bar- that doesn't mean they weren't true, just that they weren't proven. Just how many Bar complaints can he amass before they give him sort of sanction just for the sheer numbers of complaints that come in?

 

[ThinkTank]

It seems JB has managed to evade any serious penalties so far- the complaints have been 'unfounded' according to the Bar- that doesn't mean they weren't true, just that they weren't proven. Just how many Bar complaints can he amass before they give him sort of sanction just for the sheer numbers of complaints that come in?

Each complaint is reviewed and dealt with on an individual basis.
When the case is closed or action is taken - then the file is destroyed after one year.
So, it would be as if he had no previous complaints if the previous cases had already been closed and purged from the files.

 

[logicalgirl]

We keep going around that the root of the problem with this is JB. But I am starting to wonder. granted he is a huge part of the ethical problem. he literally has none.

BUT

- AL was in the woods doing walkabouts with LB and Mort. She was there. She was pointing stuff out. She certainly should have flagged immediately that this was not on the up and up.

- CM was a huge part of that sideshow visit to MN's offices to view the records. Knowing what we know now, what was the purpose of that trip? And wasn't CM the one that raised the big stink? If they were there trying to surreptitiously determine of there were more LB records or even worse slip in the fake one, then he had to be a part of it at that point? Wouldn't he?

It's like all of these well known and respectable lawyers seem to cross over to the dark side when they pair up with JB? Go team?

PS I noticed we didn't see AF at todays hearing? Did we ever know if she had a reason? Or is she doing the intelligent thing and trying not to be seen in public with her co-council? I really hope she isn't heading for the hills, as she seems to be the only ethical competant player on KC's team that maintains the respect of both the Judge and the Opposing council.

I'm going to guess AF is keeping her head down, carrying on doing what she agreed to do, between minutes of banging her head on the wall.

The one think I think is pretty clear about Baez. His destiny is "born to crash and burn". It may be this time, it may be next time - but it will happen. There is not doubt in my mind. None at all. The only question is - how big is the fire going to be?

 

[Novice Seeker]

The Florida Bar has received at least two complaints against JB over the last two years. One from DC who provided documentation and statements, that although some may argue are not against the law, clearly demonstrate a complete disregard of ethics and respect for the legal system. The very legal system that each of us hold our family, friends and nation accountable to.

When the Florida Bar questioned JB about DC's allegations the only evidence the JB could provide to dispute the allegations were his word. JB doesn't remember telling DC to do something other than notifying LE. JB reported to the board that it was his understanding that DC was volunteering his service. When questioned about the allegation involving Todd Black IIRC JB explained this away for simply not comprehending the rules or authorizing Mr. Black along with his attached alias's to act as JB's Public Media Spokesman. JB refused to accept any professional responsibility for the numerous contraditing statements made by the TB who identified himself as the spokesperson for JB. JB was working with a convicted criminal. OMG, an FBI agent recognized TB as a convicted criminal. This agent notified LE about this.

Supporting evidence for this complaint included documents, statements, records of discipline from the county jail AND a FBI Agent was deemed less credible than JB's word and of course his promise to resolve the payment issue with DC. Are you serious? The very board who refused to allow JB to sit for the bar for several years because of financial irresponsibility and not disclosing previous his criminal record.

Shortly after this complaint, another one is submitted by a JUDGE. My understanding was that if a JUDGE filed a complaint than it had to be a serious concern. JS was so concerned about specific information discovered during depositions that he ruled to seal them out of concern for being highly prejudicial. Again, various forms of evidence is provided that involve this issue against JB's explainations. The Florida Bar determines that JB's explainations are accepted as truthful and the complaint is closed out. Seriously, JB over Judge Strickland?

Now a new complaint that involves evidence tampering, deliberately submitting deceitful motions, outright lies made before a judge, contacting, speaking to and providing legal guidance for other attorney's clients that did not involve the other attorney, a legal team of attorneys and private investigators involved with possible evidence tampering and potentially other charges as an investigation continues. Along with an attorney refusing to step down as legal counsel for a death penalty case because he doesn't have the experience and additional education needed. Instead, the attorney feels that simply having a DP qualified attorney to participate as a team member covers this small little problem. So what if he's gone through a few.

These issues don't even include sanctions, disregard to rulings the judge has ruled on, p*** poor preparation for a DP case.



Novice Seeker

 

[sleutherontheside]

Keep in mind that a Florida Bar complaint does not trump a criminal investigation.

Someone may have filed a complaint based on this new discovery, but I highly doubt it was any party in the case. If I had to guess, I would say it was an everyday average citizen.

As much as people scan the FL. Bar website for any changes or news about JB....NOTHING was reported until AFTER the doc dump.

IMO the SA office is far too focused on the task at hand. They have clearly participated in a parallel investigation but ONLY in an effort to "get to the truth".....as stated in the previous LB depo.

I doubt Brad Conway would file a complaint at this time. He did his part by telling the truth as he knew it.

I doubt Mark Nejame would do that this early. He had an opportunity before, but his focus is protecting his client TES from unwarranted harassment and defamation. JB walked a very fine line when he went after TES as an entity. He most certainly impacted the "goodwill" of TES as an organization. While you can't sue someone for things stated related to a trial, you can go after them for making false claims to the court.

It could have been any number of people.

What I hope to see is patience and trust that the issue will be resolved.

What I hope NOT to see, is posters, bloggers, and average citizens attempting to "get" JB or to "point things out" to the BAR or the JAC. This is a murder trial, and as much as people want to see justice...justice has a process and it is often slow.

Every single time someone takes it upon themselves to inform the SAO, or JAC, or Bar about a "scenario", it takes time away from the real task at hand.

Not trying to be a Debbie downer or to defend the defense, I just wish that people would trust the system and let it work without trying to "make it work".

KWIM??

 

[sleutherontheside]

For all you scrabble players....thwart can be a very handy word.


Length Word Length Word
6 thwart 5 wrath
5 thraw 4 what
4 watt 4 wart
4 tw*t 4 thaw
4 that 4 tart
4 tahr 4 rath
4 hart 3 wha
3 wat 3 war
3 twa 3 taw
3 tat 3 tar
3 raw 3 rat
3 rah 3 haw
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[A_News_Junkie]

Keep in mind that a Florida Bar complaint does not trump a criminal investigation.

Someone may have filed a complaint based on this new discovery, but I highly doubt it was any party in the case. If I had to guess, I would say it was an everyday average citizen.

As much as people scan the FL. Bar website for any changes or news about JB....NOTHING was reported until AFTER the doc dump.

IMO the SA office is far too focused on the task at hand. They have clearly participated in a parallel investigation but ONLY in an effort to "get to the truth".....as stated in the previous LB depo.

I doubt Brad Conway would file a complaint at this time. He did his part by telling the truth as he knew it.

I doubt Mark Nejame would do that this early. He had an opportunity before, but his focus is protecting his client TES from unwarranted harassment and defamation. JB walked a very fine line when he went after TES as an entity. He most certainly impacted the "goodwill" of TES as an organization. While you can't sue someone for things stated related to a trial, you can go after them for making false claims to the court.

It could have been any number of people.

What I hope to see is patience and trust that the issue will be resolved.

What I hope NOT to see, is posters, bloggers, and average citizens attempting to "get" JB or to "point things out" to the BAR or the JAC. This is a murder trial, and as much as people want to see justice...justice has a process and it is often slow.

Every single time someone takes it upon themselves to inform the SAO, or JAC, or Bar about a "scenario", it takes time away from the real task at hand.

Not trying to be a Debbie downer or to defend the defense, I just wish that people would trust the system and let it work without trying to "make it work".

KWIM??

SOTS -- the key word in the bold above is reported, correct? IE: Do we have a actual date of the recent bar complaint or do we just know that after the doc dump, OS and WFTV both called to see if there was a complaint. KWIM - or what I am asking. If we know the date is after, I can see what you are saying. I can also see 'someone' holding out of respect to the SOA until the information was disclosed via sunshine laws. If the actual date was before the dump - then JB is either dealing with one of the players or someone much more related than a citizen document reader.

So, do we know a date?

 

[Jay D]

If this is a complaint by a private citizen, it seems to me that JB might have responded to KB when asked about the subject.
A simple "I will not respond to the false allegations brought before the bar by a private citizen not involved in this case" might have gone a long way towards diffusing speculation.
But then again, I know nothing about legal strategy and may be waaaay off the mark here. hoh:

 

[LambChop]

Could have been a TES volunteer who is fed up with this nonsense. jmo

 

[doogiesgirl]

Could have been a TES volunteer who is fed up with this nonsense. jmo

Yes, possibly someone that was harassed by a defense representative???

 

[Numbers]

If this is a complaint by a private citizen, it seems to me that JB might have responded to KB when asked about the subject.
A simple "I will not respond to the false allegations brought before the bar by a private citizen not involved in this case" might have gone a long way towards diffusing speculation.
But then again, I know nothing about legal strategy and may be waaaay off the mark here. hoh:

Not going to happen. There's a 4-syllable word in that sentence, and we're talkin' Baez here.

 

[Novice Seeker]

Keep in mind that a Florida Bar complaint does not trump a criminal investigation.

Someone may have filed a complaint based on this new discovery, but I highly doubt it was any party in the case. If I had to guess, I would say it was an everyday average citizen.

As much as people scan the FL. Bar website for any changes or news about JB....NOTHING was reported until AFTER the doc dump.

IMO the SA office is far too focused on the task at hand. They have clearly participated in a parallel investigation but ONLY in an effort to "get to the truth".....as stated in the previous LB depo.

I doubt Brad Conway would file a complaint at this time. He did his part by telling the truth as he knew it.

I doubt Mark Nejame would do that this early. He had an opportunity before, but his focus is protecting his client TES from unwarranted harassment and defamation. JB walked a very fine line when he went after TES as an entity. He most certainly impacted the "goodwill" of TES as an organization. While you can't sue someone for things stated related to a trial, you can go after them for making false claims to the court.



It could have been any number of people.

What I hope to see is patience and trust that the issue will be resolved.

What I hope NOT to see, is posters, bloggers, and average citizens attempting to "get" JB or to "point things out" to the BAR or the JAC. This is a murder trial, and as much as people want to see justice...justice has a process and it is often slow.

Every single time someone takes it upon themselves to inform the SAO, or JAC, or Bar about a "scenario", it takes time away from the real task at hand.

Not trying to be a Debbie downer or to defend the defense, I just wish that people would trust the system and let it work without trying to "make it work".

KWIM??

The source of my frustration toward "JB" isn't to get him. My frustration is directed toward an officer of the court who has stood in front of not one but two Judge's and consciously lied about his role in brokering media deals, attempted to ruin innocent people's lives when he attempted to accuse these individuals of the involvement in the murder of an innocent child. There are strategies JB could have utilized to defend his client WITHOUT practically destroying someone who he knows did not commit this horrific crime.

As if that isn't enough JB has demonstrated a complete disregard for complying with orders. The trial is scheduled to start within the next few months. And JB has yet to produce any form of reports for the experts he plans to call as expert witness's not mention who will actually even be called as a witness. Providing a document that states an expert's testimony is moot as this point. Really?

Trust the system? I have the upmost respect for the detectives who have worked so hard in their contribution of seeking justice for a baby FGS who did not deserve to be murdered. I have nothing but admiration for the SA's office. Their professionalism, knowledge and dedication is unprecedented. As for Judge Strickland and Judge Perry, their respect for the law and determination to provide a fair trial for the accused and justice Caylee deserves is commendable.

As for the Florida Bar? The very board whose responsibility is to hold the attorneys practicing in the state of Florida to a standard of professionalism that includes a particular degree of ethics has allowed a practicing attorney in their state to make a mockery of the Florida judicial system in practically have every aspect of this case. Trust them? No thank you. IMO, after the manner they have handled several bar complaints against Mr. Baez, they lost the trust and respect I had.

IMO, it isn't the common citizen who should be blamed for the SA's whose time is being taken away from the case. The party that should be blamed for this belongs soley on the shoulders of those who have instigated this mess.

As for MN, he's right there with the SA's. Why should BC be commended? The only time he told the truth was during the interview. He elected to not take the high road a long time ago in this case.

I think the bloggers, posters and citizens grasp that this is a murder trial for a victim who was only two years old. IMO, the only one who doesn't seem to grasp the magnitude of this trial is JB & company.


Novice Seeker

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Keep in mind that a Florida Bar complaint does not trump a criminal investigation.

Someone may have filed a complaint based on this new discovery, but I highly doubt it was any party in the case. If I had to guess, I would say it was an everyday average citizen.

As much as people scan the FL. Bar website for any changes or news about JB....NOTHING was reported until AFTER the doc dump.

IMO the SA office is far too focused on the task at hand. They have clearly participated in a parallel investigation but ONLY in an effort to "get to the truth".....as stated in the previous LB depo.

I doubt Brad Conway would file a complaint at this time. He did his part by telling the truth as he knew it.

I doubt Mark Nejame would do that this early. He had an opportunity before, but his focus is protecting his client TES from unwarranted harassment and defamation. JB walked a very fine line when he went after TES as an entity. He most certainly impacted the "goodwill" of TES as an organization. While you can't sue someone for things stated related to a trial, you can go after them for making false claims to the court.

It could have been any number of people.

What I hope to see is patience and trust that the issue will be resolved.

What I hope NOT to see, is posters, bloggers, and average citizens attempting to "get" JB or to "point things out" to the BAR or the JAC. This is a murder trial, and as much as people want to see justice...justice has a process and it is often slow.

Every single time someone takes it upon themselves to inform the SAO, or JAC, or Bar about a "scenario", it takes time away from the real task at hand.

Not trying to be a Debbie downer or to defend the defense, I just wish that people would trust the system and let it work without trying to "make it work".

KWIM??

Couldn't disagree more. The public are the ones who are supposed to be served/protected by the judicial system. We pay for it, we have a say. If someone in something as important as a murder trial is seen/caught lying, being dishonest, then it is our duty to report it and make it known. As long as people aren't lying then it is part of our duty to ourselves. Baez is a representative of the government - and you think procedure is more important than seeking to question and hold people accountable? Come on now...

 

[ZsaZsa]

Each complaint is reviewed and dealt with on an individual basis.
When the case is closed or action is taken - then the file is destroyed after one year.
So, it would be as if he had no previous complaints if the previous cases had already been closed and purged from the files.

Wow, they are not protecting the public very well by doing that. An Attorney can go through his career collecting legitimate complaints and they wll all fall off his record after one year!