Florida - Coronavirus Covid-19 #2

[mickey2942]

Here in South Florida, the inability to enforce mask ordinances may be the death knell for thousands. The people who try and resist the mandates will now be free to endanger people in every indoor venue. IMO, the DeSantis order to prohibit cities and counties from enforcing mask ordinances is one of the most extraordinary developments in the political landscape of the pandemic in the US. It mirrors Georgia to some degree, but we in Florida have a much larger population. It seems deliberately formulated to increase the rate and scale of infections. Perhaps it can be explained by a belief in herd immunity. The other measures to open businesses are part of the difficult calculation of how to preserve economic activity while limiting the spread of disease. Those measures are understandable, because it is difficult to balance disease control measures with economic impacts.

The beaches are open. Let's go swimming.

 

[Warwick1991]

The beaches are open. Let's go swimming.

The beaches have been open for a while now... My concern is indoor venues, such as stores, offices, health care providers and other places where the virus can be transmitted indoors. Mask ordinances here did not and do not apply outdoors.

 

[mickey2942]

The beaches have been open for a while now... My concern is indoor venues, such as stores, offices, health care providers and other places where the virus can be transmitted indoors. Mask ordinances here did not and do not apply outdoors.

This is all about minimizing the situation, in a pathetic attempt to pretend everything is fine. The huge financial blow to Florida businesses is going to be absolutely crippling this winter, if Canucks, Europeans, New Yorkers, and South Americans stay away.

Desantis has been consistent in his pervasive denial about Covid-19 and the devastating toll on the citizens of Florida.

 

[JudgeJoe]

Here in South Florida, the inability to enforce mask ordinances may be the death knell for thousands. The people who try and resist the mandates will now be free to endanger people in every indoor venue. IMO, the DeSantis order to prohibit cities and counties from enforcing mask ordinances is one of the most extraordinary developments in the political landscape of the pandemic in the US. It mirrors Georgia to some degree, but we in Florida have a much larger population. It seems deliberately formulated to increase the rate and scale of infections. Perhaps it can be explained by a belief in herd immunity. The other measures to open businesses are part of the difficult calculation of how to preserve economic activity while limiting the spread of disease. Those measures are understandable, because it is difficult to balance disease control measures with economic impacts.

Hopefully private businesses will still require & enforce masks. Like Walmart, restaurants & medical clinics. Otherwise, how will they keep their essential workers?

 

[mickey2942]

Hopefully private businesses will still require & enforce masks. Like Walmart, restaurants & medical clinics. Otherwise, how will they keep their essential workers?

This is very true. Especially as those workers are usually younger, single women. Who have children. If the young children get Covid, the Mothers are quarantined as well.

 

[PayrollNerd]

The beaches aren’t the problem. I’ve been beaching it all summer with my friends. Everyone stays in their own little huddle with whomever they came with, even when they go in the water.

All my friends make a big circle around me and no one is allowed in. We put our stuff on the perimeter so children don’t run thru. We go when it’s not busy too.

It’s a money thing. The state leaders are well connected and easily influenced by business owners. Add in the amount of deniers that think it’s just a form of flu, and the entire state becomes a big Petri dish.

I was talking to a friend this morning about the big commercial construction company she works for in Venice, FL. Their business has not had any slow down at all. She’s the contracts person and gets the permits pulled. She’s as busy as ever.

 

[mickey2942]

https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...ime-workers-in-florida-part-of-disney-layoffs

 

[PayrollNerd]

More of the same.....

Florida sees rise in COVID-19 cases a day after data delay

The Florida Department of Health tallied Sunday 3,700 new known cases, the highest daily caseload since late August. On Saturday, there were 1,790 new confirmed cases.

The state also reported 180 new COVID-19 deaths but that number reflects two days of data reporting.

Health officials said they received 400,000 previously reported test results late Friday from Helix Laboratory, which prevented them from processing and releasing data on Saturday as they usually do. Epidemiologists needed to verify results to make sure it didn't duplicate cases, the department said.

 

[BUF]

More of the same.....

Florida sees rise in COVID-19 cases a day after data delay

The Florida Department of Health tallied Sunday 3,700 new known cases, the highest daily caseload since late August. On Saturday, there were 1,790 new confirmed cases.

The state also reported 180 new COVID-19 deaths but that number reflects two days of data reporting.

Health officials said they received 400,000 previously reported test results late Friday from Helix Laboratory, which prevented them from processing and releasing data on Saturday as they usually do. Epidemiologists needed to verify results to make sure it didn't duplicate cases, the department said.

It’s even higher now...

Florida adds 5,570 coronavirus cases after duplicate test data halts daily report

The Florida Department of Health posted 5,570 new coronavirus cases and 178 new fatalities on Sunday, after the agency said a large dump of test results prevented it from producing a report Saturday.

 

[mickey2942]

It’s even higher now...

Florida adds 5,570 coronavirus cases after duplicate test data halts daily report

The Florida Department of Health posted 5,570 new coronavirus cases and 178 new fatalities on Sunday, after the agency said a large dump of test results prevented it from producing a report Saturday.

At that number, it seems almost hopeless to do contact tracing. If the average number of contacts a person has is 5-10, that is rounded about 30,000 people to call and give an order of quarantine for. The scale, even at a county level, if we loosely assume larger counties have 500 people to call, and get their contact tracing info, that is still another 2500 people to follow up with.

The contact tracing has been delegated to local county health departments. It seems to me, that there should be some sort of "overflow" system in place, where federal government resources are used for these large scale numbers.

Or, have they just shrugged and let the virus run its course?!

 

[PayrollNerd]

At that number, it seems almost hopeless to do contact tracing. If the average number of contacts a person has is 5-10, that is rounded about 30,000 people to call and give an order of quarantine for. The scale, even at a county level, if we loosely assume larger counties have 500 people to call, and get their contact tracing info, that is still another 2500 people to follow up with.

The contact tracing has been delegated to local county health departments. It seems to me, that there should be some sort of "overflow" system in place, where federal government resources are used for these large scale numbers.

Or, have they just shrugged and let the virus run its course?!

There's a guy I know that works at the health dept as a contact tracer. He's done it for years with all sorts of diseases, long before the pandemic. I only know him because his wife has MM like me and they attend our support group. I can't imagine he can keep up. I don't know that contact tracing is worth the data it brings at this point. The virus is rampant and out of control now in my opinion. I've noticed the parking lots of restaurants are much fuller because we're "open for business" here in FL!

 

[mickey2942]

There's a guy I know that works at the health dept as a contact tracer. He's done it for years with all sorts of diseases, long before the pandemic. I only know him because his wife has MM like me and they attend our support group. I can't imagine he can keep up. I don't know that contact tracing is worth the data it brings at this point. The virus is rampant and out of control now in my opinion. I've noticed the parking lots of restaurants are much fuller because we're "open for business" here in FL!

Insanity. (INMO). Here, in Montana, there is a rigorous and serious contact tracing program. With not only paid employees, but also a significant number of retired folks who volunteered. And if people who cannot be contacted, the Sheriff serves their order of isolation.

They are completely on top of the situation in my county, less than 10 cases a day. Other counties, not so much. I believe that because the work is done so immediately, the count doesn't escalate to out of control numbers like Florida.

If the State of Florida had made contact tracing a priority, I think that the numbers would have stayed more manageable.

There has been quite a bit of public service announcements in the local newspapers, and on local news about contact tracing. That has helped as well.

 

[mickey2942]

‘I feel so powerful,’ President Trump declares at Sanford airport rally

 

[BUF]

‘I feel so powerful,’ President Trump declares at Sanford airport rally

“I feel so powerful,” Trump said. “I’ll walk in there and kiss everyone in the audience. I’ll kiss the guys; I’ll kiss the beautiful women.”

 

[mickey2942]

“I feel so powerful,” Trump said. “I’ll walk in there and kiss everyone in the audience. I’ll kiss the guys; I’ll kiss the beautiful women.”

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis high-fived spectators as he arrived at the rally before the president began speaking. He wasn’t wearing a mask.

 

[PayrollNerd]

“I feel so powerful,” Trump said. “I’ll walk in there and kiss everyone in the audience. I’ll kiss the guys; I’ll kiss the beautiful women.”

Barf. My 86 year old aunt lives very close to there. I have no doubt she’s seething. LOL! She the most politically active person I think I’ve ever met in my life. Up until the pandemic came, she’d be out protesting something.

 

[oviedo]

We Floridians are doomed - sigh
Jmo

 

[BUF]

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis high-fived spectators as he arrived at the rally before the president began speaking. He wasn’t wearing a mask.

....and he has young children. Yep, that’s our gov.

 

[mickey2942]

We Floridians are doomed - sigh
Jmo

"Thousands of people packed closely together cheered and chanted “We love you!” as President Donald Trump flew into Central Florida on Monday night to hold his first campaign rally outside Washington since his coronavirus diagnosis 11 days ago."

 

[BUF]

"Thousands of people packed closely together cheered and chanted “We love you!” as President Donald Trump flew into Central Florida on Monday night to hold his first campaign rally outside Washington since his coronavirus diagnosis 11 days ago."

He was throwing masks out to the crowd. Kind of reminded me how he was throwing paper towels at people in Puerto Rico after the hurricane.

Sadly, these people won’t put them on... except for a few minutes to advertise maga, which is probably why he gave them out as he doesn’t promote mask wearing.